when u mass bebita

[Shadow_Dragon]

Your bank realy that big? I've got a big bank but it's still a fair bit smaller than HEs.. Especialy when he has more miners than me.

lol no Sleepy I wont have a bank near HE's atm I was refering to when the era starts his bank and mine are very close.

right now my bank will look like a small ATM compaired with HE

lol sorry for the misunderstanding, but yeah my bank is still rather large... still not full though :'(

then buy them for me

what do I look like a bloody bank!! lmao

[[BoT] Jason]

a small ATM

then buy them for me

what do I look like a bloody bank!! lmao

nope just like my ATM

[High Empty]

bank size

i wish it was full

5T+

oh, all the UP i could buy

200k here i come!

[Shadow_Dragon]

bank size

i wish it was full

5T+

oh, all the UP i could buy

200k here i come!

show off!!


lol no one has ever managed that yet, maybe some day it will happen...

[[BoT] Jason]

http://quantumgate.stargatewars.com/legends.php?era=12
lol era 12's UP FTW

[S1eepy]

the only stat I didn't have top in?

I couldn't buy weapons fast enough to have the units armed.. and could send a max of 999,999 spies on covert missions, so as impossible to spy each other.. UU became obsolete.

And this was only 3 weeks long

[[BoT] Jason]

sheer maddness is say

[Ace1102]

and as for u ace
i see your reply was a big ppt
thats say all

I appologised for remarking about the english, I am very anal about proper spelling and punctuation, but thats just me... Its not like an official thing and I wont hold it against you

And as for your comment above, I have to go away for 3 days of the week, every week for work, It cannot be avoided and I cannot access the internet...

So no, It does not say all..
Though I now have plenty of naq to put up a decent fight (when I am online that is)

Now, I have only read that post, and there are 3 more pages in this thread to read, so back to it

Originaly you said wader used 14k turns massing.. Therefore cant have had any turns to recover. It was then made clear the amount of turns used in the fight was significantly less than that, closer to 2k. So why cant he have farmed the naq with those spare 12k turns that you say he used.

Nobody ever said he used 14000 turns, He never even HAD 14000 turns...
I used 14000 turns in a few hours, thats all that was ever said about 14k turns... probably a few thousand of which were sent waders way, he was lucky that particular evening that I happened to run out of turns shortly after his unprovoked attack which led to this whole debacle...

Sorry if this is all old news, but Im still catching up on the last 3 pages of this thread...

When ace mass me i have 20 gods 4 bill is enought to repair i set critical and farm 2 repairs and ace is go over turn and i mass back when ace off line .feeder for what
is not enought acuse is easy

I based my assumptions on the following:
Your MS was destroyed, that would have cost roughly 30 billion to rebuild to its former glory, which you eventually did in the following turns;

Your army size is TINY and therefore, unless you have many SS upgrades, you do not have the bank size to hold even 30 billion, a problem I also face.

I spied you constantly over a whole week, thats 7 days, In which your turns varied by only about 200, for the whole week.
Sure I am willing to concede that you buy and use turns daily, as we all do, but I still think it abit odd that you could rebuild your gods twice, your MS and still then go ahead and triple your stats, including covert 22, with the amount of turns I watched you have and then NOT have..
The only conclusion that this brings me to, is that you were not acting alone and you most definately had help with some farming of naquadah, as I believe that everything you have bought, including your super high mini-techs, would be in the region of say, about 300-400+ BILLION naq, Or most likely MORE...

Its quite abit, when your turns went from 1951 to 1702 in 3 days...
(Again, conceding that in that time you could have bought and used 7,200 turns...)
But again, almost EXACTLY what was purchased and no more, leaving in natural AT generation...

I still have some spy and attack logs, but they only go back as far as 22nd of March (5 days)
I was watching you for alot longer than that...

ace farm me and itake down ms after that ace use 1800 turn to mass me ..fail after that i take down 25 god ace sent me this message(I hope that that was worth having 0 stats at the end of the era...

Enjoy the gift you have coming to you and all your alliance )

Yes, until I realised your alliance have nothing to destroy...
It was very dissapointing at the time....

However, now, I am over it...
I have minimal stats for you to mass, and double your UP, you wont see me building stats again until much later on in the game

And might I also remind you, that I DID try to talk with you peacefully to stop the sillyness after you massed my MS the first time, BEFORE I ever hit you, as ChaosKing in Shadow Knights told me you were very reasonable...
But to my dissapointment, my rather nice PM was rewarded with
"bla bla bla" and a massing, Not exactly the acts of a reasonable man...


PS:
If anyone wants to see said logs, you should let me know shortly...
As they only stay for a number of days, and I believe they are about to dissapear from my intel logs...

[R0B3RT]

and as for u ace
i see your reply was a big ppt
thats say all

I appologised for remarking about the english, I am very anal about proper spelling and punctuation, but thats just me... Its not like an official thing and I wont hold it against you

And as for your comment above, I have to go away for 3 days of the week, every week for work, It cannot be avoided and I cannot access the internet...

So no, It does not say all..
Though I now have plenty of naq to put up a decent fight (when I am online that is)

Now, I have only read that post, and there are 3 more pages in this thread to read, so back to it

Originaly you said wader used 14k turns massing.. Therefore cant have had any turns to recover. It was then made clear the amount of turns used in the fight was significantly less than that, closer to 2k. So why cant he have farmed the naq with those spare 12k turns that you say he used.

Nobody ever said he used 14000 turns, He never even HAD 14000 turns...
I used 14000 turns in a few hours, thats all that was ever said about 14k turns... probably a few thousand of which were sent waders way, he was lucky that particular evening that I happened to run out of turns shortly after his unprovoked attack which led to this whole debacle...

Sorry if this is all old news, but Im still catching up on the last 3 pages of this thread...

When ace mass me i have 20 gods 4 bill is enought to repair i set critical and farm 2 repairs and ace is go over turn and i mass back when ace off line .feeder for what
is not enought acuse is easy

I based my assumptions on the following:
Your MS was destroyed, that would have cost roughly 30 billion to rebuild to its former glory, which you eventually did in the following turns;

Your army size is TINY and therefore, unless you have many SS upgrades, you do not have the bank size to hold even 30 billion, a problem I also face.

I spied you constantly over a whole week, thats 7 days, In which your turns varied by only about 200, for the whole week.
Sure I am willing to concede that you buy and use turns daily, as we all do, but I still think it abit odd that you could rebuild your gods twice, your MS and still then go ahead and triple your stats, including covert 22, with the amount of turns I watched you have and then NOT have..
The only conclusion that this brings me to, is that you were not acting alone and you most definately had help with some farming of naquadah, as I believe that everything you have bought, including your super high mini-techs, would be in the region of say, about 300-400+ BILLION naq, Or most likely MORE...

Its quite abit, when your turns went from 1951 to 1702 in 3 days...
(Again, conceding that in that time you could have bought and used 7,200 turns...)
But again, almost EXACTLY what was purchased and no more, leaving in natural AT generation...

I still have some spy and attack logs, but they only go back as far as 22nd of March (5 days)
I was watching you for alot longer than that...

ace farm me and itake down ms after that ace use 1800 turn to mass me ..fail after that i take down 25 god ace sent me this message(I hope that that was worth having 0 stats at the end of the era...

Enjoy the gift you have coming to you and all your alliance )

Yes, until I realised your alliance have nothing to destroy...
It was very dissapointing at the time....

However, now, I am over it...
I have minimal stats for you to mass, and double your UP, you wont see me building stats again until much later on in the game

And might I also remind you, that I DID try to talk with you peacefully to stop the sillyness after you massed my MS the first time, BEFORE I ever hit you, as ChaosKing in Shadow Knights told me you were very reasonable...
But to my dissapointment, my rather nice PM was rewarded with
"bla bla bla" and a massing, Not exactly the acts of a reasonable man...


PS:
If anyone wants to see said logs, you should let me know shortly...
As they only stay for a number of days, and I believe they are about to dissapear from my intel logs...

do you need teach talk with others

[Shadow_Dragon]

I think he is just trying t explain why he would think you had a feeder account help you Wader, he means no disrespect

[S1eepy]

ya see..
ace provided reasoned argument, stating actual information he has available.


He didnt just say

im also very curious how you can manage to gain so much power when you have no turns and such a low army size...

me smells feeder!! and you know what happens to feeders ???

Thats the difference I was talking about.
Reasoned argument usually results in a discussion of the possibilities.
whereas just calling names usually ends in a shouting match. (this thread)


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Now, about those reasoned arguments.
I can see how you can think he is feeding, but the evidence isnt that conclusive. Because of his low UP, he has been able to pour all farmed naq into stats. If I had been doing this, I could have easily maintained top 3 stats up until now. As most people could.

His weakness (UP) is also his strength, he saves naq there, and uses it to bolster the rest of his account.
I was massed this morning, and it cost me 70b to fully repair. Repairing damage done isn't too hard or expensive, once you have the techs/capacities. and any extra naq he farmed would have gone on boosting his stats further.


This is all speculation, it is always possible he had some1 help him recover. As always, just providing an alternative line of thinking

[Shadow_Dragon]

ya see..
ace provided reasoned argument, stating actual information he has available.


He didnt just say

im also very curious how you can manage to gain so much power when you have no turns and such a low army size...

me smells feeder!! and you know what happens to feeders ???

Thats the difference I was talking about.
Reasoned argument usually results in a discussion of the possibilities.
whereas just calling names usually ends in a shouting match. (this thread)

I can agree and disagree here, I gave a rounded up version of the facts, ok rather blurry with my errors, I have access to the logs, they were posted daily (not the full logs) so I told you what I knew at the time.

I stated that he had built all his stats back and more u/p and improvements to his account with limited turns and obviously a small bank, I agree that if he has all the tech re-building as much as an annoyance as it is, is far cheaper and easier to manage, but it was the improvements that I was more refering to plus, from the logs posted it was very clear he had no resources to re-build with, I say this because neither were backing down, they constantly repaired and kept at it, from that battle I concluded that he had no resources (I have no proof to say this though)

I have pm'd Ace for a full record of his logs, just for me, not to cause further problems, the issue has been cleared up.. the argument however could go on for a while if we allow it to lol

In short I apologize for misrepresenting the facts, I shouldve got all the logs first.
As for the alternative thinking on how it could be achieved yeah thats possible but come on its unlikely.

but regardless of how why and when this was achieved Wader has agreed not to attack Ace and I have recommended that Ace do the same.

If in fact Wader has a Feeder, well there are a number of players watching for feeders so it would come to light in due course. As it will for all others doing the same.

[bebita]

sxhut up dragon or whatever u are calling your self
from 14 k turns turns spent on massing by wader now u say other crap things
the funny thing is ace admit he spyed my brother over the days
and stats on my brother was over the days
that means that 2400 turns we receive everyday was spent by my brother
maybe this why he have 90 k turns used in this game until this hours

[R0B3RT]

shadow you can talk about you? Ace is my farm now ace did me i finish era with 0 status

[[BoT] Jason]

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