The notion of players losing everything ingame.........

[Wolf359]

not when somone comsup with the Idea that u can louse evey thing

But, there was a time when it was possible to lose anything (it happened to me frequently) and people did bounce back.

Besides, I don'tthink anybody is suggesting that it will be easy to do this - and i have suggested limits on how much of a persons UU can be destroyed per day - and do not forget that UP, Spy Level and technology will be unaffected.

I believe that if this was to be implemented then it would be extremely difficult to achieve and would also come at a cost to the attacking players.

Simply attacking the suggestion and saying it is bull is hardly productive.

[Aussie Babsy]

yeah but at that time u had a chance to get back into the top 100 within a few weeks

[[AG]Ra]

ascend sweetheart

[Aussie Babsy]

but that's a little diffent u get somone to hold your UU's wile u acend so u can get huge incomes to finance your clime up the ranks

PS: please tellme if i'm wrong

[SSG EnterTheLion]

here's an idea...say you have 10000 top attack weapons, u must have a minimum of 5000 defence weapons..or vice versa. That way there is always a risk to war and would make rank important again...and of course a way to kill covert.

[Wolf359]

yeah but at that time u had a chance to get back into the top 100 within a few weeks

Please stop getting fixated on The Top 100 - the Top 100 means nothing anymore as Glory and rep points are now based on being within the top 1.5% of the ranks:

23,184 players => G & R points in top 347 ranks!

Additionally - when you do ascend, your main game account is completely reset - and I do mean completely - yet these players are able to fight their way back to the top.

Plus, you are never completely destroyed - your spy level would remain untouched and your UP would be intact - so as long as you have a decent UP you can start over relatively quickly.

I have said it many times before, and I will say it again: This game isn't just about trying to beat everyone else, it is about creating alliances and friendships with other players so that you can all help each other out. being able to do this (and it is not always easy) is key to being successful in the game - and if you have friends you can trust then you can get back up in the high ranks in no time if you were completely destroyed (or if you ascend).

[Wolf359]

here's an idea...say you have 10000 top attack weapons, u must have a minimum of 5000 defence weapons..or vice versa. That way there is always a risk to war and would make rank important again...and of course a way to kill covert.

I kind of like this idea and would be keen to see it discussed in it's own thread.

There are also other ways of helping to limit covert ability - one of which I posted in this thread:

http://www.stargatewars.com/phpBB2/view ... sc&start=0

10th post.

The basics of it are that you can initially train spies at any level - up to your current spy level - but the higher the level, the more naq it costs. The spies then increase their spy level over time and with experience until they reach your maximum spy level. Then, if covert killing is introduced, the lower level spies are killed first and so on. This means that covert can be killed, but the more you attempt to destroy a players covert, the progressively harder (and costlier) it gets.

This would also mean that purchasing the next spy level would not automatically mean doubling your covert power as the spies would need time (as yet undefined) to assimilate the new training brought about by this advance.

The covert info would also include how many spies you have at each level.

[budakajana]

but that's a little diffent u get somone to hold your UU's wile u acend so u can get huge incomes to finance your clime up the ranks

PS: please tellme if i'm wrong

This is true.

But this opportunity is the same for everyone. So there is no excuse why you or others cannot receive such benefit.

[Napoleon]

here's an idea...say you have 10000 top attack weapons, u must have a minimum of 5000 defence weapons..or vice versa. That way there is always a risk to war and would make rank important again...and of course a way to kill covert.

I was just thinking of this...I think it would be a great idea!

[trinity]

This is another "One thread to discuss the issue."
Always going to be one more.
Oh well, I have been saying forever that covert operatives and untrained units should be able to be killed, however I am a little tired of talking to a brick wall.
At this point I would support most anything that would allow covert operatives and untrained units to be killed again.

[Vegito]

Well quite frankly I am a little tired of hearing a bunch of people ultimately complaining about how the game is set up... if you want a new game play... Ascend... stop trying to impliment ways to get everyone down to your lvl and come up to everyone elses lvl... I do not support this idea one bit...

[trinity]

Well quite frankly I am a little tired of hearing a bunch of people ultimately complaining about how the game is set up... if you want a new game play... Ascend... stop trying to impliment ways to get everyone down to your lvl and come up to everyone elses lvl... I do not support this idea one bit...

I wonder sometimes if you people think before you post.

Check this out, people who have posted in this thread:

Puck
Daff
ETL
Wolf359
(leaders of influential alliances)

Sleipnir
(a long-time mod)

Jix
budakajana
(members of a fairly powerful group you may've heard about)

MackTheKnife
Shizune
(top 300 players)

and a few other respected players.

So you imply that all of us are trying to get up to your level...

You are in over you head and out of your league. "Come up to everyone else's level indeed."

(as a quick side-note, the majority of these players are also a force to be reckoned with in ascended server as well as the regular server)

[Vegito]

Well quite frankly I am a little tired of hearing a bunch of people ultimately complaining about how the game is set up... if you want a new game play... Ascend... stop trying to impliment ways to get everyone down to your lvl and come up to everyone elses lvl... I do not support this idea one bit...

I wonder sometimes if you people think before you post.

Check this out, people who have posted in this thread:

Puck
Daff
ETL
Wolf359
(leaders of influential alliances)

Sleipnir
(a long-time mod)

Jix
budakajana
(members of a fairly powerful group you may've heard about)

MackTheKnife
Shizune
(top 300 players)

and a few other respected players.

So you imply that all of us are trying to get up to your level...

You are in over you head and out of your league. "Come up to everyone else's level indeed."

(as a quick side-note, the majority of these players are also a force to be reckoned with in ascended server as well as the regular server)

<COUGH> I as well am a force to be reckoned with ... so by all means... think as well... I am in the top 10... I have ascended multiple times... I know what I am talking about in this game... I know who alot of these people are... so I did not need that reminder... as there are also people on this game and in this post that I have never heard of who are also posting... I have seen this idea many times and don't like it one bit...

I have not been playing since the beginning... but I have been working hard to get where I am but I don't want to start over if I get massed and raided and whatever else would come in to play.. merely because I have quite a bit UU...

[budakajana]

Well quite frankly I am a little tired of hearing a bunch of people ultimately complaining about how the game is set up... if you want a new game play... Ascend... stop trying to impliment ways to get everyone down to your lvl and come up to everyone elses lvl... I do not support this idea one bit...

Tissue?

[trinity]

<COUGH> I as well am a force to be reckoned with ... so by all means... think as well... I am in the top 10... I have ascended multiple times... I know what I am talking about in this game... I know who alot of these people are... so I did not need that reminder... as there are also people on this game and in this post that I have never heard of who are also posting... I have seen this idea many times and don't like it one bit...

I have not been playing since the beginning... but I have been working hard to get where I am but I don't want to start over if I get massed and raided and whatever else would come in to play.. merely because I have quite a bit UU...

"cover your mouth please"

So, the only person in the top ten who has ascended more than once is:
van rain.
So either you are van rain, or you aren't very honest.
I can assure you that I'm now dizzy with respect for you...
I'd like to inform that to be in the top 10, there is no prerequisite saying that one must think. As such, being in the top 10 does not imply that you think before you post. The reminder was due to the condescending nature of your post. It was so blatant, that it was quite natural that someone remind you.

So you don't like to see people who you have never seen post, to speak their mind? So, as the players with more tenure leave, there should be no one to stand in and fill in that gap? That would be suicidal for the forums and possibly the game as well, since eventually everyone will move on. As such, you need to get over your issue with new people posting, as it is part of the game, and is quite necessary to the ongoing success of it.

I would think that it is safe to say that most everyone who has played very long, has worked hard to get where they are at.


Now, back to the original purpose of this thread.