disney, are they the good wholesome family brand we take....

[[KMA]Avenger]

really?

maybe topless evil looking women, images of hell and people burning as well as the devils depicted in fantasia, skinny sex object stereotypes of woman depicted in most of disneys films and so on, is not such a bad thing for children to see in cartoons and its all in my mind!

i fail to see how you can deny logic, common sense and your own eyes

[[KMA]Avenger]

i understand that, but how can it not be "as bad as i make it out to be"?


seriously, help me out here because i cant fail to see the evil in it and am shocked this sentiment is not shared

[[KMA]Avenger]

can i ask if you have kids and how old you are?

if you don't mind

[CRASSUS]

really?

maybe topless evil looking women, images of hell and people burning as well as the devils depicted in fantasia, skinny sex object stereotypes of woman depicted in most of disneys films and so on, is not such a bad thing for children to see in cartoons and its all in my mind!

i fail to see how you can deny logic, common sense and your own eyes

Because you never see them without actually looking for them or freezing a frame and analyzing it. The children don't see at all, nobody sees.

[Kit-Fox]

I think the whole point of the arguement is that the kids dont notice these things and that they are implanting ideas subliminally rather than overtly which usually works better if people dont notice them in the resource they are planted in.

However even assuming that is true, as the children rarely ever know anything about sex etc the messages would largely be ignored if they are even noticed.

[Deaths_Rider]

if it has an effect or not can only be judged on a case by case baias (i would say it doesn't but it might) but wheather it is put there by disney was avengers main point (i think) that and if there was anything good about disneys formula of good preety people v's evil ugly people but this is not soley a disney formula.

my personal favourite of this is the wizard of OZ when dorthy meets the good which she say "but your beutefull whichs are meant to be ugly" the reply is one of my fav lines "no silly on bad whitches are ugly"

now is this good for our kids? no probabley not

does it help the story and make it easier for people to like the main charater and want them to succede? definatley

and at the end of the day for all there family value image there just a company and if kids don't won't to watch there movies they won't survive kids don't wont to be the ugly kid they want to be the preety princess or the star athlete so that's what disney play too.

[CRASSUS]

my personal favourite of this is the wizard of OZ when dorthy meets the good which she say "but your beutefull whichs are meant to be ugly" the reply is one of my fav lines "no silly on bad whitches are ugly"

now is this good for our kids? no probabley not

does it help the story and make it easier for people to like the main charater and want them to succede? definatley

and at the end of the day for all there family value image there just a company and if kids don't won't to watch there movies they won't survive kids don't wont to be the ugly kid they want to be the preety princess or the star athlete so that's what disney play too.

oh cmon! she's a witch, she flies a broomstick, she has bright green skin and wants to kill small dogs, of COURSE she's ugly.

[Deaths_Rider]

in bewiched samantha flys a broom stick is a which but she isn't ugly.

so a good looking which can't kill small dogs or be green? or are only bad whiches green and the evil in there hearts is what makes them ugly?

i have no problem with the good v bad / good looking v ugly set ups but i'm very anti P.C. i see no problem with lots of stuff now baned and can't see how this is different from other victims of the P.C. monster like the golliwog dolls or ba ba black sheep... oh wait sorry rainbow sheep(or is that now offensive to gays)

[SOlid Snake]

really?

maybe topless evil looking women, images of hell and people burning as well as the devils depicted in fantasia, skinny sex object stereotypes of woman depicted in most of disneys films and so on, is not such a bad thing for children to see in cartoons and its all in my mind!

i fail to see how you can deny logic, common sense and your own eyes

Because you never see them without actually looking for them or freezing a frame and analyzing it. The children don't see at all, nobody sees.

The mind sees everything! Just because you didn't consciously notice, doesn't mean your mind didn't process the information sub-consciously.

[SOlid Snake]

Call me Dr. Frankenstein, I love bringing dead things back to life. hehe

Just because you can't access the memory doesn't mean that it has no effect.

Abuse victims suffer from this all the time, suppressed memories for one that plague their owners in some very profound ways.

All the memories you have, whether you remember them are always there and they are the very building blocks of your mind/soul/essences whatever you believe it to be.

Exposure to sexual material at an early age when the mind is so fresh and open to everything, would in my humble opinion lead to a sub-conscious desire to experiment sexually at an early age than is deem normal.

Do the research, it's there, it's very real, and IMHO is very damaging to society as a whole.

There is a reason why they call it programming... You are the device that they are programming, do you like windows OR are you running some custom software? hehe...

[SOlid Snake]

It is an extreme example of what the mind is capable of.

I was in no way say that the viewer would be damaged to extent that the abuse victim would be.

I was simply pointing out that the mechanics of the mind would be similar in this case.

Other than the random example I gave, can you fault the logic of my previous post?

"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction".

I believe the latter can be applied to this subject.

[SOlid Snake]

There is no evidence for the sky falling, is there?

However,

There is a ton of evidence that subliminal programming has been developed to an advanced stage, see MKULTRA.

You should watch whats coming out of Darpa & the CIA. Most is what they want you to see, so for one second imagine what their not telling us...

Think on...

The fact is this is happening and with increasing frequency, what is the purpose? I don't know.

The question you have to ask yourself is, do you trust your government?

If you have even the slightest doubt about their intentions, then you really need to sit up and start paying attention to every action they take...

I wish that is was just some lonely perv being a jerk, but my mind won't accept it.

For fun go have a look at reserves speech, try this first:-

Say "Yes we can" the reverse it, you will be shocked, trust me.

And this is the saying of Obama & bob the builder, the mind boggles.

Peace.

[SOlid Snake]

I thought Disney was the entertainment branch of the CIA...

I added some more to my last post, hehe.

[SOlid Snake]

You said it not me.

If you look hard enough, you will find it everywhere.

Satanism is alive and doing quite well.

Just because we don't believe there is any substance in it, doesn't mean that those who practice it don't believe that all this chanting and repeating of satanic phrases some how empowers them.

Have you heard what they do when an artist (HAHA) releases a new single/album? I've heard of high level executives performing witch craft and placing hexes on the materials being produced and shipped to millions, if not billions worldwide.

[SOlid Snake]

I know.

I wasn't being nasty...

Most of that post was an after thought.