Asgards are far away in advantage!!

[Reaver]

point is, is that the inequality of the uniques give an advantage to the asgard that they don't deserve or need.

I disagree. As an Asgard, it's very hard to build up a great offense. And we don't make extra money as the Goa'uld do. Turn based income is important to us, so it makes sense that we should be able to protect that a little better.

[Aussie Babsy]

and reps can sab somone to death
or at least do some damege that will take weeks to recover from!

[god]

point is, is that the inequality of the uniques give an advantage to the asgard that they don't deserve or need.

I disagree. As an Asgard, it's very hard to build up a great offense. And we don't make extra money as the Goa'uld do. Turn based income is important to us, so it makes sense that we should be able to protect that a little better.

again, you are comparing your unique bonus to the goauld race bonus... Our race bonus is the equivalent of your race bonus (although even that could be argued as not quite true.) so neither of those are part of this conversation... you already have a way to protct your naq, we have a way to make more...

The UNIQUE tech gives you a bigger advantage, because you don't get your naq stolen or have repairs 15% (my ass) of the time, however goauld get 5% of what we kill of your army back... IN UNTRAINED MERCS!!! I don't know if you have checked lately, but that is you saving say... 20 million or more compared to us getting 4500 naq, but still having to make tens or hundreds of thousands maybe even millions of repairs, and losing 20 times as many super soldiers as we gained from our unique...

same deal for the reps...

basically, it is completly biased in favor of the asgard, and to some extent the tauri.

[schuesseled]

look if you don't like (adresses everyone) your race and you think another race is at an advantage dont complain about that advantage just change your race.

[Eternal Usul]

Another Idea...


We could replace the current uniques for Reps and Goa'uld with new ones...(I know...lots of work...it's not urgent or anything...)


Reps...new bonus...

They get,"Tech Absorbtion"...simply put it randomly chooses the tech of a player within range of the Repli player's realm...(by ranking)...and copys it for the Rep...

There are three tiers...you can randomly copy the tech of a single player within 25 ranks of yourself, level 2: 50 ranks, Level 3: 100 ranks...

It only copys the tech of one player, within range...meaning that they could end up with any of the other three techs, at various levels of development...also, since it would be pointless to be near other reps...this would encourage them to move up in the ranks. Of course this is temporary...maybe resetting every other day...just to keep it fresh...


Goa'uld get "Mothership Opression", essentially it means they put their Hat'aks in orbit and use them to opress the masses, increasing naq production...again three tiers...level one: 5% increase, level 2: 10%, level 3: 20%...simple, and within the realm of role-playing...as is the previous tech...


Both would balance the game's unique techs again...encouraging reps to move up in ranking...and giving the Goa'uld a logical and useful bonus...

[lawrencekill]

just a question for gou'ald,

i'll use 20% as example

is it orig: 100%+25%+20%=145% per uu income

or 100%+25% first, so 125% of uu income increase then 20% making it 150%???

is it the first or the second?

[Aussie Babsy]

I think the best thing that could be done for the goa'uld (without upseting to meny players) would be drop the 25% extra income for 25% cheaper weapons, this would mack the goa'uld happer becauce they wouldn't get attacked as often and could become more powerfull more esely

[The Dalek Empire]

the asgard hologram is not as much as an advantage as you fools suggest its definetly no where near 50% as someone suggested, becasue i have an asgard defense log, its more like 15-25% but cant remeber the rate as ive already brought it ,

and so what , you hit the holo, you attack again, if you hit the holo 5 times in a row then thats just bad luck , i.e its a % the tau;ri can have this happen too,

and as i said befroe if you think the hologram is the best race tech thats your opinion its not fact , and thus become asgard and stop saying there something wrong.

Pay attention 007. Ther is nothing wrong with the Asgard technology. The gripe is that the Replicator and Goa'uld technologies simply cannot compare to it, no matter how you look at it. There is absolutely no way you can possibly, ever, under any circumstances say that the Replicator and Gia'uld techs are on par with the other two. Though I would be amused to watch you try.

I also remember saying that this doesn't make the Asgard "better" (their bonus only works if they get attacked - if they don't get attacked then all that defence and technology are going to waste, sort of), it jus doesn't do much for the remarkable balance that exists between the races if you were to ignore these particular technologies. The issue is not a big one (it just gets enflamed when players whinge about hitting a couple of dozen holograms), but it could be easily fixed.

Have the Replicator technology work all the time and heal 15% of your casualties. Have the percentage of Untrained Units the Goa'uld tech creates increased by a fair amount. Easy.

[Aussie Babsy]

I still like my cheeper weapons idea

[daivahataka]

As a serial Asgard I can't really say about how effective the Replicator and Goa'uld race techs are but from their description they do sound like they need a bit of a boost to keep the game more balenced.

Perhaps Goa'uld = % chance that a % (can't be 100% for obvious reasons, either that of the chance of it working would need to be very low) of the value of the damage they inflict when they attack will be added to their income from the attack, since they are the intergalactic technology kleptos.

Replicator = same but they get the value in UU not naq (using the current exchange rate on the market), since they tend to turn technology into more of themselves.

[Eternal Usul]

just a question for gou'ald,

i'll use 20% as example

is it orig: 100%+25%+20%=145% per uu income

or 100%+25% first, so 125% of uu income increase then 20% making it 150%???

is it the first or the second?

right now...we only get a 25% bonus...with my suggestion...it would be the former...giving us the 145% compared to the other races 100%...

I think...I don't know for sure how Forum works the bonuses...


Any opinions on the replicator idea?

[Eternal Usul]

Apparently not...

[Vegito]

in regards to this thread... all I can say is COME ON.... there is nothing wrong with the techs... I was tauri... now I am tollan... preascention... I had a very large def... although expensive it can be done... my attack was off the chain... and I hit asgard repli's... anyone... if there was naq out I hit them... although yes... I did hit the holograms... I still got tons of naq... so by all means... just play the game... and stop complaining about the techs... because they are fine...

[Aussie Babsy]

in regards to this thread... all I can say is COME ON.... there is nothing wrong with the techs... I was tauri... now I am tollan... preascention... I had a very large def... although expensive it can be done... my attack was off the chain... and I hit asgard repli's... anyone... if there was naq out I hit them... although yes... I did hit the holograms... I still got tons of naq... so by all means... just play the game... and stop complaining about the techs... because they are fine...

your apsolutly right

[The Dalek Empire]

in regards to this thread... all I can say is COME ON.... there is nothing wrong with the techs... I was tauri... now I am tollan... preascention... I had a very large def... although expensive it can be done... my attack was off the chain... and I hit asgard repli's... anyone... if there was naq out I hit them... although yes... I did hit the holograms... I still got tons of naq... so by all means... just play the game... and stop complaining about the techs... because they are fine...

You are right - the parts of this thread that complain about the Asgard technology being too powerful are somewhat silly. However, the simple fact that the Goa'uld and Replicator technologies are a cut below the Asgard and Tau'ri is not. They should be brought into line.

Forum already recognised that the Goa'uld technology was severely underperforming and so he increased it's %-age a little a while back. When the time comes for him to evaluate how the technologies are doing, I would bet 50,000 UU that he will increase or improve the Replicator and Goa'uld techs a little more.