chamaileon wrote:How about Ricos Roughnecks ..... I remember seeing posts where they said they declare war on xx alliance b/c they were bored.
Thats during the war and not over a year ago.
Janus was posturing well before the strikes happened. For months. When did EOB join, that was before, how about TDO. Posturing after the NAP ended. Everyone was wondering and then alliances started taking sides, the server was carved up.
On a side note: What was the Jannissaries(Zion war) for anyway? Was that posturing or just another chapter in the FUALL/TTF war.
ESP.
KSM has already answered about Ricos, so I wont repeat it. As for the rest... It was not long between the formation of The Janus Pact and the start of the war, a month or six weeks at most. In that time yes, many alliances joined on both sides. Delta was formed and TÅ had numerous incidents with their members. DDE created DoO. On our side we came to an agreement between TLE, TÅF and TO that we would fight together if it came down to it, as we would all have ended up at war against FUALL anyway. Other alliances like EoB and AR felt similar and asked to join up. So yes, at that point the server was divided into two major factions, everyone aware of the impending bloodbath to follow. At that point everyone stepped carefully so as to prepare for the upcoming war.
As for the Zion war that one is hard for me to comment on, as I was not involved. As always it depends on who you ask as to what perspective you get on the reasons for that war. Whether the following statement is true or not I am unsure, but it is an observation. Many of the alliances involved in the Zion war had close ties to FUALL and many of those members are now in FUALL. Therefore it could be viewed that the Zion war was orchestrated an attempt to weaken TLE. Although its not that clear-cut. It could also be viewed as a group of alliances who were unhappy that TLE were pretty much the most aggressive force at that time, tried to take them down and lost.
ThunderCat wrote:But when it comes down to it you have a coalition of farms held together by a few hardcore fighters who still believe that they have the moral high ground.
you TJP people like to think you have the high moral ground, but really all you have is a bunch of high minded rhetoric while you are just as guilty as FUALL for massing innocents.
I'm still waiting for examples of where members with TÅ tags have massed innocents. Rico's was not part of TÅ, despite how convienient it may seem there was an internal dispute resulting in several of our members leaving. The Pond and Nemesis Sect have done more than enough to justify our current wars with them. If there is other specific incidents that you guys are referring then let me know. If as I suspect you are unable to do so, then we are correct to hold our heads up high wearing our glow-in-the-dark Halos.
Fot those of you who will reply "why didn't you try to stop TLE when they were 'educating' people", let me answer that now. It was not just TLE that were educating. It was a large amount of members across most of the major alliances. In order to directly "fight" those members, one would have had to fight Omega, DDE, TLE and about 4-5 other alliances. The saying outnumbered and outgunned did not begin to describe it. The internal politics of TÅ meant that a war of that magnitude was out of the question at the time. We never once condoned their actions, but those actions are irrelevant now. All that is relevant is the actions of the present and the future. The present actions in question are those by DDE and Omega. Unlike the past, we are now in a position to do something about those actions, alongside others who have the means and the will to do the same.
~Norbe~
We need the next VT football season to start, then the war can stop on Saturdays for game time 
