Declare Peace/War/Neutral Possible Loophole

[justinsane]

I've come across something that to me seems like a loophole, however I wanted to post here and get everyone's opinion on it before reporting the bug officially.

Basically, when you have MORE than one officer, you get new commands, which are "Declare Total Peace, Declare Total Neutral, Declare All-Out War"


These opinions apply to you and all of your officers, however they can be changed as often as the user desires, meaning a person can get the % benefit from declaring war, along with their officers, and then the benefit of their Nox still working by Re-declaring Neutral. The main commands, "Declare Peace, Declare Neutral, and Declare War have a 24-hour waiting limit for them to be changed again, this I believe is to avoid people being able to control the benefits of Relations.

Therefore by people being able to control it I believe it is a possible Loophole to that rule.


Just as proof of this, I will post from my inbox, however X'ing out the player's name as it is not my place to mention their name here.


XXXXX Vicarious XXXXX has set their relation with you to: Neutral May 19, 2009 reply delete save
XXXXX Vicarious XXXXX has set their relation with you to: War May 19, 2009 reply delete save
XXXXX Vicarious XXXXX has set their relation with you to: Neutral May 19, 2009 reply delete save
XXXXX Vicarious XXXXX has set their relation with you to: Peace May 19, 2009 reply delete save
XXXXX Vicarious XXXXX has set their relation with you to: Neutral May 18, 2009 reply delete save
XXXXX Vicarious XXXXX has set their relation with you to: War May 18, 2009 reply delete save




Please all give their insight into this as soon as possible, thank you.

Sincerely,
~Vicarious

[Zeratul]

wrong section... this has no bearing for the forums...

MOVED to bugs...

[justinsane]

Sorry, the section was titled "Forum Specific Issues/Requests/Bugs".


Anyway. All, please give your opinions, thank you.

[Lore]

it is a known discrepancy. Not sure if its classified as a bug or not. Everyone knows about it, and Admin does as well. If it will ever be fixed I do not know.

[justinsane]

If it is not going to be fix, then what is the point of having the 24-hour waiting period? Why should some people have it and others not? Lets even out the playing field here.


~Vicarious

[odji nsu]

well if you want to be fair play then get some officers and you can use it as well

[justinsane]

No one should have to do anything just to keep up with other players.

Unless of course that "thing" is farming, in which case that is the whole point of the game


Please, more replies from experienced people here please. I want more opinions before I officially report this.


~Vicarious

[FreeSpirit]

personnaly in my eyes it makes little to no difference. The declare war option disables nox yes that is true and the 24h limit makes you vulnurable but yet with the ease of massing these days it makes barely any difference if ur on nox or not. Ur stats will crumble in the end anyway.

[odji nsu]

lmao,, he is just upset i do that and take more uu when i raid massing him and then reset it and while im gone i phase and he cant take advantage of me setting war,, or that when i massing them and there there i set war and take all of there repair naq,,


Like I said you are not equal to me cause you dont have officers, and i dont even want to hear it isnt fair,, cause is it fair in your ideas for you to hit my officers but yet you dont have any to hit,,

get used to the fact that there are things in this game that aint fair,, it makes it more real cause life is the same,


so report this so called loophole and get on with it,, but as you have already read everyone knows about it including admins

[justinsane]

personnaly in my eyes it makes little to no difference. The declare war option disables nox yes that is true and the 24h limit makes you vulnurable but yet with the ease of massing these days it makes barely any difference if ur on nox or not. Ur stats will crumble in the end anyway.

This is true, but in the end, it should never be made EASIER for the attacker, as you said, it is easy enough as it is now. Either this be made available for all or fix the problem.


To Odji: As he also said, if you see someone with lots of UU out you will take them all, regardless of whether you declare war or not. And since we are at war you will take my stats anyway also. I am not worried, I just don't see why you should always get Nox while others don't. One or the other, Increased damage, or increased defence, not both. Or of course both, but for everyone.


Sincerely,
~Vicarious

[odji nsu]

dude...u do have the same option just go out and recruit you some officers. this option is available to everyone in this game not just me. if you can't find any officers to claim you then oh well...my officers love me!!!!!

that is why i can set war and neutral when i feel like it now get off ppt so i can fight.

[justinsane]

No, I do not have the same option, I shouldn't have to lose 40% of my income in order to do this.

That was my initial point.

Regardless of whether the gain in UU makes it worth it or not.

It is my choice to have no officers and have no CO, and I should never have to do something in this game in order to get such disproportionate abilities as this loophole is.

Either it is available to EVERYONE, and under EVERY situation, or it is available to no one, is the only way this can be fair and justified.


In regard to PPT and fighting, there is our own specific thread for that, this is for the Declarations Loophole.


~Vicarious

[~Coyle~]

I have to agree with Odji, it is a valid tactic and i don't see why anyone should complain, if someone you are fighting online has nox off you should do the same, make it fair, nox sucks as it makes massing someone while online stupidly difficult as it is so easy to repair the defense, get ride of nox i say