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[schuesseled]

Please stop spamming the thread, its not about you it's about the bug you abused. If admin see's it fit to punish you then so be it, if he believe's you just dont pay attention and aren't too smart and thus accidentally abused the bug, so be it. Now stop posting in here, Admin doesn't need to trall through this constant argumentitive spam from the two of us. If you wish to go on about the matter use the thread in General I created about you and your sordid tactics.

Mod's please delete any futher posts which aren't helpful to Admin in solving the bug.

[Sorrow]

Part of it is a bug. Defense shouldn't be damaged at all if the attackers strike is less than 1/10 of the defenders defense. Yes that should be fixed.

On the other hand the part where you can attack without weapons is just part of the update and I think admin changed in intentionally.

Also sensors/scanners should be killed even if the defender does 'devastating damage'.. just like in previous waves you could AC someone with just 1 of the smallest weapon.

[schuesseled]

To AC through a defence their Is a cost, that cost is that you loose the AC units, in this case the Sensors/Scanners are lost at no cost, just turns, so picture this, last turn , you train 100 million sensors, then someone burns 1k turns on you, they dont even need to use weapons according to you, they take out all the uu, you've spent all wave producing at no cost to them. That is a bug, and needs to be fixed, similarily to Weapons/Shields taking damage on the defender no matter the strength of the opposition.

I don't deny that Admins intention was to make the combat equal in both Attacking and Defending, and that he wanted to make more damage, but it is not working thier is a flaw that needs sorting.
Also Attacking with no weapons. Sure okay, could be intentional, but sort of goes against the theme of the update.
If you managed to beat someones shield's using just untrained. It goes against this no?

Unless you completely overwhelm, expect damages above normal use 'wear and tear' .

[Sorrow]

To AC through a defence their Is a cost, that cost is that you loose the AC units.

Granted. I completely forgot about that when writing my post. Now you convinced me and I think all the losses should be removed when the defender has a much higher defense than the attacker's offensive power.

[schuesseled]

To AC through a defence their Is a cost, that cost is that you loose the AC units.

Granted. I completely forgot about that when writing my post. Now you convinced me and I think all the losses should be removed when the defender has a much higher defense than the attacker's offensive power.

Indeed otherwise their will be chaos

[S1eepy]

also.. you cant AC though someones defense with no strike. That was a bug, and fixed a few waves ago. If you receive devastating damage, you cant kill any spies.

[schuesseled]

Makes sense,

I remember AC'ing Forgotten Serenity through defences in main, but knowing them I probably wasnt getting devestating. Being they build bite size stats.

So basically this update has pushed the attack system back to a before bug even if in a slightly different manner, so should definetly be played with till right.

[adminGary]

This is a bug.
This should now been fixed.

[Neimenljivi]

Both ACing through a defense disabled and 1/10 smaller action of the enemy you're attacking/attacked u having no affect on your weapons thus noone can mass you if s/he hasn't got a needed strike and defense?

EDIT: Just hit an inactive and got no repairs so I guess my question was answered Thanks a GAZILLION Gary!

~Jack

[S1eepy]

Big love to Gary

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