The Audacity of the Obama Inaguration

[Thriller]

My quote was taking out of the third section, which the movie money masters got it's plot from....

but whatever... you can lead a horse to water..

[[KMA]Avenger]

i can say the same for you mate

[Thriller]

i can say the same for you mate

No you can't avenger, because i'm swimming in the lake..

[[KMA]Avenger]

funny, i was in that lake and i found it to be an illusion.

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Why I am not also just trying to open peoples minds? Why am I the liar? Is it because I don't make outrageous and impossible claims about the world and believe you to be an idiot?

The answer to these questions, my friends, are found in places that go much deeper than than i am able to delve at this point in time ...
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so ask yourself,
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*looks around cautiously*

..... just how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go???

*start scary melodramatic music*

[[KMA]Avenger]

maybe i'm stupid and dont understand what your trying to say...in layman's terms please.

as i've said on many occasions, my vocabulary and understanding are limited and i am self educated....

to my eternal shame

[Thriller]

The way you discuss fact and repudiate my claims is based on a circular argument.. combined with high lvls of emotional placation

in other words; what george would call ...DoubleSpeak

which is highly ironic... and kinda amusing since it's from my favorite book.

[[KMA]Avenger]

meh, i'm not trying to repudiate anything, all i've asked is that you at least give the film 30 mins of your time and investigate for yourself whats what.

you could say its kind of circular, as is your arguments since you draw on what you have been taught at school and from official records-when the truth has been buried beneath these sources.

anyways, look for yourself or don't, makes no difference to me, all i am interested in is people going beyond the scope of "Officiality", because at the end of the day and what is fact and undeniable is this...

international bankers with the complicity of our officials and politicians have stolen OUR money and OUR nations, and through the practice of borrowing money from PRIVATELY owned central banks,we HAVE been enslaved, and to date, nobody has given me a satisfactory answer when i asked some months ago...why do our governments need to borrow money, and why do we have a national debt, and to whom are we indebted to???

you dont have to be a rocket scientist to see that central banking is enslavement and should be destroyed, just as Andrew Jackson of your US did, and just as Abe Lincoln and JFK attempted to do....

or have you forgotten, or was not taught-Americas history and just how prosperous the US grew after the civil war with the aid of Abe Lincolns Green Back dollars...dollars which he struck at no cost to the government or the US citizens?

i've never claimed to be clever or even remotely so, but if the evil of our central banks and those that control them is plainly obvious to me and millions of others, it beggars belief that people are not outraged and even murderous towards these international money men and our governments!

you guys simply fail to see or connect the dots when they are so visible, and what you fail to see is that these banksters have been waging a war on humanity ever since the creation of the worlds 1st central bank, the bank of England.

believe what you will and see what you want to see, i was on your side of the fence once, if someone had tried to explain this stuff to me 10 years ago i would have had the same attitude as you lot, thats why i always say and will keep saying, its better you go see for yourselves!



what has Thomas Jefferson have to say about privately owned central banks?

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

--Thomas Jefferson

looking at the world today, with truly open eyes and a mind, can you not see that Jefferson's quote is not a quote but is indeed a prediction that's come true?

the English people have been living under the yoke of the bank of England for so long that its not surprising that no one remembers what life was like without a central bank, but the American people must be the most closed minded of all people if they have forgotten the battles that have raged between a few good men and the international banksters only 100 years ago


more famous quotes:


[spoiler]"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."
-Thomas Jefferson

"The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating."
-Thomas Jefferson

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." -James Madison

"If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations."
-Andrew Jackson

"The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity."
-Abraham Lincoln

"Issue of currency should be lodged with the government and be protected from domination by Wall Street. We are opposed to...provisions [which] would place our currency and credit system in private hands."
-Theodore Roosevelt

Despite these warnings, Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
-Woodrow Wilson

Years later, reflecting on the major banks' control in Washington, President Franklin Roosevelt paid this indirect praise to his distant predecessor President Andrew Jackson, who had "killed" the 2nd Bank of the US (an earlier type of the Federal Reserve System). After Jackson's administration the bankers' influence was gradually restored and increased, culminating in the passage of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Roosevelt knew this history.

"The real truth of the matter is,as you and I know, that a financial
element in the large centers has owned the government ever since
the days of Andrew Jackson."
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
(in a letter to Colonel House, dated November 21, 1933)

When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes... Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."
-Napoleon Bonaparte, Emperor of France, 1815

"The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots and the bankers went anew to grab the riches. I fear that foreign bankers with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America and use it to systematically corrupt civilization."
Otto von Bismark (1815-1898), German Chancellor, after the Lincoln assassination

"Money plays the largest part in determining the course of history."
Karl Marx writing in the Communist Manifesto (1848)

"That this House considers that the continued issue of all the means of exchange - be they coin, bank-notes or credit, largely passed on by cheques - by private firms as an interest-bearing debt against the public should cease forthwith; that the Sovereign power and duty of issuing money in all forms should be returned to the Crown, then to be put into circulation free of all debt and interest obligations..."
Captain Henry Kerby MP, in an Early Day Motion tabled in 1964.

"Banks lend by creating credit. They create the means of payment out of nothing. "
Ralph M Hawtry, former Secretary to the Treasury.


"... our whole monetary system is dishonest, as it is debt-based... We did not vote for it. It grew upon us gradually but markedly since 1971 when the commodity-based system was abandoned."
The Earl of Caithness, in a speech to the House of Lords, 1997.

"The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys which it creates out of nothing."
William Paterson, founder of the Bank of England in 1694.

"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws."
Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild.


"The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

"I am afraid the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can and do create money. And they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of Governments and hold in the hollow of their hand the destiny of the people."
Reginald McKenna, as Chairman of the Midland Bank, addressing stockholders in 1924.


"The banks do create money. They have been doing it for a long time, but they didn't realise it, and they did not admit it. Very few did. You will find it in all sorts of documents, financial textbooks, etc. But in the intervening years, and we must be perfectly frank about these things, there has been a development of thought, until today I doubt very much whether you would get many prominent bankers to attempt to deny that banks create it."
H W White, Chairman of the Associated Banks of New Zealand, to the New Zealand Monetary Commission, 1955.


"Money is a new form of slavery, and distinguishable from the old simply by the fact that it is impersonal - that there is no human relation between master and slave."
Leo Tolstoy, Russian writer.

It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and money system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company.

"The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is, perhaps, the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banks can in fact inflate, mint and un-mint the modern ledger-entry currency."
Major L L B Angus.


"The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled. With something so important, a deeper mystery seems only decent."
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908- ), former professor of economics at Harvard, writing in 'Money: Whence it came, where it went' (1975).[/spoiler]

oh btw, for those of you who don't believe that America had foot the bill for Hitler, read what Republican Congressman, Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the House
Banking & Currency Committee, from 1920 to 1931- had to say on the matter:

“After World War 1, Germany fell into the hands of the German
International Bankers. Those bankers bought her and now they own her,
lock, stock, and barrel. They have purchased her industries, they have
mortgages on her soil, they control her production, they control all
her public utilities.

The international German bankers have subsidized the present
Government of Germany and they have also supplied every dollar of the
money Adolf Hitler has used in his lavish campaign to build up a
threat to the government of Bruening. When Bruening fails to obey the
orders of the German International Bankers, Hitler is brought forth to
scare the Germans into submission...

Through the Federal Reserve Board over 30 billion of dollars of
American money...has been pumped into Germany...You have all heard of
the spending that has taken place in Germany...modernistic dwellings,
her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine
public highways, her perfect factories.

All this was done on our money. All this was given to Germany
through the Federal Reserve Board. The Federal Reserve Board...has
pumped so many billions of dollars into Germany that they dare not
name the total.”


Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the House
Banking & Currency Committee


i used to admire Hitlers skill at rebuilding Germany into a world super power, and for MANY years thats what i believed, it was Hitler and Germans who had taken Germany from poverty to super power status because thats what i was taught...


no wonder we all grow up ignorant of the world we live in!

[[KMA]Avenger]

forget the "Audacity of his Inauguration", how about the shear audacity of administration???

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Friday, May 29, 2009


Fresh confirmations have emerged from senior military sources that suppressed photographs of the torture of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison show scenes of rape, sexually explicit acts, sodomy and forced **Filtered**.

Harper’s Magazine writer Scott Horton, who also writes for The Daily Beast website, writes that he "has obtained specific corroboration" from a "highly credible senior military officer with firsthand knowledge," who he says has provided even more detail about images being withheld from the public by the Obama administration.

Horton writes that the photographs “depict sexually explicit acts, including a uniformed soldier receiving oral sex from a female prisoner, a government contractor engaged in an act of sodomy with a male prisoner and scenes of forced **Filtered**, forced exhibition and penetration involving phosphorous sticks and brooms.”

Horton's sources revealed that in addition to other sexual acts, some of the photographs show a uniformed soldier receiving oral sex from a female prisoner, a government contractor engaged in an act of sodomy with a male prisoner, and a female prisoner being forced to expose her breasts.

"Other suppressed photographs show a female prisoner assuming sexually suggestive poses in a chair, while a prison guard appears behind her in some frames. In another series, prisoners are shown hooded in a transport with open copies of pornographic magazines in their laps." Horton writes.

The military source also described an image in which Specialist Charles A. Graner, who was sentenced to 10 years imprisonment in 2005, is shown suturing the face of a prisoner, effectively stitching the skin, as if closing open wounds, despite the fact that the prisoner required no such medical procedure.

The account directly contradicts yesterday's denials by both the White House and the Pentagon that the withheld photographs contain evidence of sexual abuse.

(Article continues below)

By denying the statements of Major General Antonio Taguba, featured in the London Telegraph earlier this week, the White House is denying the facts of the official internal military investigation from 2004, in an apparent attempt to pull off a crude bait and switch.

Taguba merely confirmed to the Telegraph what was in his original report.

Taguba also verified the credibility of eyewitness statements from other detainees that described an American-Egyptian male translator in uniform raping teenage boys.

The fresh confirmations, combined with Taguba's reiteration of his original findings, as well as other accounts from credible figures such as veteran reporter Seymour Hersh and US Senator Lindsey Graham, disprove president Obama's assertion that the suppressed photographs are "not particularly sensational".

The truth will out, and as the ACLU has said, Obama “has essentially become complicit with the torture that was rampant during the Bush years by being complicit in its coverup.”


i said it before he got into the white house and i'll say it again...Obama is as dirty as Bush, if not more so!!!

[Juliette]

ACLU = Leftist bastards.
Torturing sobs = Gov't bastards.


Oh btw.. interesting notion referring to your post before that last one, G.
America's current state (ownership of industries etc).. deja-vu? Let me see.. does "GM" ring any bell?

[[KMA]Avenger]

actually, i'm very worried about this [mega] bail-out bubble. we first had the dot-com bublle which burst and then the housing bubble went the same way, but when the bail out mega bubble pops, what can we fall back on???


this is very worrying indeed!