The Cosmic Expansion Theory of Global Warming

[~[ Greased Gerbil ]~]

I was thinking about this one day, and I came up with my theory regarding the cause of global warming.

Cosmic Expansion

The universe's continued expansion is causing the Earth to slowly get hotter. It is a fundamental law of science that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; it is simply converted in other forms of energy - i.e. petroleum is converted via combustion into explosive force which when expended becomes heat.

Now, the universe and all matter within it is expanding. The relative distance between or eyes, between the Earth and the Sun, between the atoms that make up all of those things remains the same. However, the absolute distances are rising at the rate at which the universe is expanding. Seeing as though new energy cannot be created, the larger celestial masses must convert more and more of it in the process of maintaining trajectory. Smaller bodies convert more and more energy going about their everyday business.

The more the universe expands, the more of it's energy we need to use to keep up. The more energy we use, the more heat we generate. Hence, it is the expansion of the universe itself that is causing our planet to get warmer.

.... and now we don't need to worry, because the Earth will quickly become significantly cooler when the universe implodes in on itself.

[Rudy Peña]

Through out the history of this planet, the planet goes through a cycle of getting very cold, then getting very warm, then starts to cool down and then starts to warm up again.



Though us humans at our current technology level, we are also making this process 'speed' up(I think speed is a good word to use) a little and adding to the warming up of this planet.

[[KMA]Avenger]

do what?

sigh!

i've seen and heard from allot of top scientists all saying global warming and climate change is a fraud.

i used to think just like everyone else whose been suckered and brainwashed into thinking that if we all start paying carbon and green taxes to the banks, we will all be saved. i watched Al Gore's film an inconvenient truth and thought (and not really knowing anything about him) "wow there's the proof right there. we are killing the planet and global warming is real". the man has won the Nobel prize, emmy's an oscar and made a crap load of money because of that film so i thought it was all legit. the first cracks in that theory started when Al Gore had a lawsuit filed against him for fraud and incorrect scientific evidence and yet, he wasn't stripped of any of his awards


everyone who thinks Global Warming is real needs to do their home work just like i did, i spent weeks looking at both sides of the argument of global warming and my conclusion is its a fraud, its a fraud because i didn't understand what's really going on.
at the end of the day, global warming (regardless of the driving force, be it cosmic, man made or otherwise) is a myth...

but don't take my word for it, listen to the experts who know what their talking about...


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... 0655100870

[Kit-Fox]

Anyone who thinks that we (that is to say humankind) are having any effect on the global temperature are sadly misinformed.

The grand total of our influence is less than 1%

Our output (as it were) can safely be ignored, we arent accelerating the warming or affecting it in any kind of noticable way.

EDIT: That not to say that now we know what our output is capable of doing we shouldnt make an effort to limit / reduce our effects. However suggesting that we are the cause is patently absurd.

[agapooka]

It's July, I'm in the northern hemisphere in Montreal and I've been cold for the past week.

Case closed.

On a serious note, "global warming" isn't even the proper name for it. Climate change is. Let's not bother debating global warming.

Avenger, I'm surprised you didn't start blaming climate change on HAARP.

[[KMA]Avenger]

lol, the name for robbing and deceiving people is always changing, but the fact still remains that global warming/climate change due to man creating CO2 emissions, and the way its portrayed by the media and our Govts is still lies...and if i may quote V.I.N.C.E.N.T from Disney's The Blackhole..."A wolf remains a wolf, even if it hasn't eaten your sheep."

as for HAARP, well i have no proof at all that its being used to modify the weather with the purpose of fooling the masses into thinking its all real. i don't point fingers when i don't have proof-much less heard about it...unless you have some i can look at?

[Mister Sandman]

The matter for 'global warming' or the enhanced green house effect is really of irrelevance .

Does it really matter that we are 'speeding' up the process? Yes and No.
The fact is, there is not enough data to make an accurate clause.


The claim, ' alot of scientists say that human caused global warming is not true,' is highly subjective. On the terms of amounts on what they think, who is paying off the scientist, whether the scientists know anything(meaning if they just a scientist of a different field spouting their opinionated views ).

So the statistic is rather, nebulous.

Is global warming real? Isn't the right question. The right question is, is our current lifestyle, sustainable.

[[KMA]Avenger]

The matter for 'global warming' or the enhanced green house effect is really of irrelevance .

Does it really matter that we are 'speeding' up the process? Yes and No.
The fact is, there is not enough data to make an accurate clause.


The claim, ' alot of scientists say that human caused global warming is not true,' is highly subjective. On the terms of amounts on what they think, who is paying off the scientist, whether the scientists know anything(meaning if they just a scientist of a different field spouting their opinionated views ).

So the statistic is rather, nebulous.

Is global warming real? Isn't the right question. The right question is, is our current lifestyle, sustainable.

try watching this film and hearing first hand from experts who know what their talking about because its their job to know:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... 0655100870

[Mister Sandman]

Try summarising for me I dont have the time to waste.

Also I question the motives of the 'experts' and their qualifications.

[[KMA]Avenger]

to summarize, true experts with multiple degrees, awards, commendations and whatnot totally destroy the myth of global warming

[Mister Sandman]

Degrees, awards, commendations and whatnot doesn't mean a thing. And by summarise I meant evidence, not bias opinions.


Overall, it is a juggling act. There is no right answer.

[[KMA]Avenger]

watch the film and then make those assumptions. I GUARANTEE its no waste of time

[Jim]

watch the film and then make those assumptions. I GUARANTEE its no waste of time

Facts and statistics can be interpreted in different ways and can also be manipulated easily.
Celebrated scientists support both sides and use different AND similar statistics to show different things.

In general i agree with pena and sandman's views.

Avenger, i think most people would think that Global Warming/Climate change is not a fraud or myth, they just argue on whats causing it.

On the original topic: cant be bothered to understand it right now but will try later. However from what i can already gather i would say that it isnt taking any energy for us to move or anything as we are in space.

[Jayne Cobb]

If I showed you a graph with a flat line going straight across it, how would you interpret it? Stability? Or Stagnation? Two completely different interpretations from the same statistics.....it happens in every academic field

As for the whole idea of global warming, I think its primarily a load of tosh. For once, one of Avenger's videos was actually genuinely quite interesting and I'd recommend people watch it, even if just five min clips of it.....

I'm a medievalist.....and the medieval warm period is quite well-documented. Temperatures were allegedly higher even than they are today. The margin of agriculture is when it becomes unproductive to try to grow grain (ie: if you put one seed into the ground you get less than one back).....this level was over several hundred feet higher in the medieval period than it is even today - there are remains of villages from the 10th-11th centuries at heights which today couldn't possibly support such a community.....

The weather naturally fluctuates.....whether we're making it worse somehow, and whether CO2 leads temperature or not, I'm not qualified to say....but I'm not convinced we're all going to die in some horrible weather-induced armaggedon in a few decades.....

[[KMA]Avenger]

please watch the film and see for yourself. if the film and what's said and how its said doesn't impress you then i'll eat the copy of the film i have on dvd!