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[semper]

I have recently been pondering some things about SGW.. and one of the things that occurred to me.. was the greatness associated with the big spenders of both time and actual $$.

So I decided to pose a question.. to the SGW community....does spending a lot of money on your account thrust you to a position of greatness in the game? I mean..it seems to me that ANYONE with a lot of resources on hand.. and a built up account can be legendary in this game no matter the level of skill because of the inadequate game mechanics lending a great deal of power to what is actually pretty much no great big deal, do you not agree? I have done some good stuff with what I have got.. but if I had been able to spend a couple of hundred $$'s to get my MS to a solid 1.4T.. i'd have trumped a lot of people..that being only one example.

On the other hand... I don't mean to point it out as wrong too.. these people do keep the game afloat.. but then I question.. do they really keep the game afloat by rewarding Jason for neglecting his flagship game? At the same time though..it's circular.. as if they give up.. and he backs away.. their money dies.. if the game is changed.. the very things they have come to rely on to justify such an expenditure may lose a good portion of it's power. They may spend money to deal with the current staleness of the game.. as I would certainly stand by the fact most $$ spenders and earners would support the game as not being broken.

It's just food for thought... I have seen a lot of situations where the money has made the man... not the man make the idea.. and a lot of idiots who fall for it.. head over heels.. especially in some circumstances when the spenders spend for them too. So my question to you.. ultimately is.. WHAT do you think on the matter? Truthfully...

[Empy]

This game takes no skill to play to be perfectly honest, those who spend the most time playing (farming...) or spend the most money will have the best accounts. The rest don't stand a chance in comparison. Of course there are other ways to gauge someone in this game, but I think this is the facet you were zoning in on Semper.

[Eternal Usul]

It also depends on what you define as "legendary"...


No matter how "awesome" your account is, not matter if your 1st rank or rank 20k...it is your deeds that define you.


Great players build a legend around themselves, regardless of their account...

They are remembered, not for how many supers they had, but because they did something legendary.

ETL is legendary, because even though he does not have the rank 1 main account...he built an Empire that has yet to fall..

Esker is legendary, because even though he was massed into the ground...he took what he wanted and gave nothing back, and did so with style.

Teal'auc is legendary, because she has a reputation as one of the nastiest fighters out there...



Some of us seek to follow that standard...some more successfully than others...


Just my thoughts on the subject...

[Clarkey]

Spending $$$ on your account obviously will give your account "great" power. So the answer would be yes for greatness as in strength.

But as for "greatness" as in legendary then no it won't. Legendary style of greatness comes from how someone plays, their style, or something they have done that is rather unique and to the level of great or legend and has nothing to do with the account itself.

True greatness is someone who has done something considered legendary and also has spent no or minimal $$ on their account, like FSS for example.

JMO

[Noobert]

Look at the people who use money in the game. Some of which are the strongest, and most determined. The money just happens to give them the edge, I guess?

[Juliette]

Money without time, or time without money doesn't cut it, doesn't get you close to those bragging rights we all covet so, so both time and money are invested if anything at all. Dedication.

Once was a time where money could buy out time, now you need both to compete at the top level. *grin* Or you can remember Usul's words, and go for fame and glory in this portion of the web through his route.



The Way leads the prophets.

It also depends on what you define as "legendary"...


No matter how "awesome" your account is, not matter if your 1st rank or rank 20k...it is your deeds that define you.


Great players build a legend around themselves, regardless of their account...

They are remembered, not for how many supers they had, but because they did something legendary.

ETL is legendary, because even though he does not have the rank 1 main account...he built an Empire that has yet to fall..

Esker is legendary, because even though he was massed into the ground...he took what he wanted and gave nothing back, and did so with style.

Teal'auc is legendary, because she has a reputation as one of the nastiest fighters out there...



Some of us seek to follow that standard...some more successfully than others...


Just my thoughts on the subject...

[TLO]

I`m with eternal usul on this one, exactly my thoughts...

People become "legendary" by their deeds, not by how much money they invest into their acount...

Certain people choose to buy stuff to help themselves, others choose to get there by their hardwork and although you might say that certain people play it 18h a day, it`s just because they enjoy the game or don`t have anything better to do or because and that`s the most likely scenario and that`s they haven`t found an effective way how to grow which wouldn`t require so much of their`s precious time...

The whole point of the game is for people to "play it" and that means to spend some time playing it...
In WoW you wouldn`t play it only 30m a day, I am 99% positive you would spend even 3 or more hours a day playing it to become one of the best....
I mean the guys that already have built up acounts with the help of cash look for other excitment like war etc because they have nothing else to achieve in the game...
They just wanna go and kick some a** because that`s the best way for them to enjoy the game, everyone is different and enjoy`s something else, that`s understandable of course...

For me are people legendary for what they did, that they standed by their alliance in hard times even though the war was already lost, that they protected their friends even though they knew they were wrong, that they were always there for anyone who needed help...
And personally I think that that`s what family is and SGW is about because there are loads of people that still play only for their friends and would put their acount on the line...

I myself already achieved in SGW what I wanted so I have no need to buy an acount and become top 100 or whatever and that`s why I choosed to start from the bottom again and see where I can get without help...
For some people it would be boring, for me it`s way to not give up even in hard times and try to find my way through the big boys....

[qacol]

I like the game and money lets me play longer, if I did not spend cash on this game, I play another game by now.

No skill to mass- the skill comes with tricking your foe to untrain and do something stupid to kill more of his uu or steal lots of naq.

[SSG EnterTheLion]

At the end of the day anyone can mass anyone..with a little bit of inventiveness. True greatness in this game comes from what you do behind the scenes. Examples such as manipulating alliances to your grand plan or destroying your enemies without lifting a finger etc etc.

Personally I am competive, and sometimes it carries over into the game. I say thinks just to observe reactions and true enough to manipulate people.lol But seriously some of the stuff I hear astonishes me. People make huge assumptions about others. In the past I have targeted certain people, and time has vindicated me. But not every enemy has been. For instance people like Robe among known names have opposed the OE in various incarnations but I don't target her the way I do..say Blahh, JUAN, Nebulator. It doesn't mean that if someone is an honest enemy they should be slandered.

The other day I was speaking to Rahl and we had a good laugh about how a certain alliance believed everything a certain somebody said about Omega and myself, just to get in. I say if someone wants to truly know a person, there is msn, private messages and such.

At the end of the day, I dont consider anyone here a true enemy after all. We are just people here to play a game and have fun. So if someone has a problem with me, feel free to approach me directly.

And yes I diverged a bit from the topic, but this has become an issue in SGW, where people attribute certain things to others without bothering with facts.

[TacticalCommander]

What makes a person great is determined by the fact they are known by the whole or most of the community.

In the case of past players, if the individual is remembered by the players who played the game in that time.

And, having the knowledge that the community has about that individual discussed or mentioned.

What makes a person legendary, is one who goes above and beyond that which is/was expected or thought possible.


TC

[~Odin~]

i like this topic alot semper....

i would have to agree with clarkey...spending cash can make u great...but it takes more to be ledgendary.

@tetris lol dude i have spend roughly $2,000 on the game through buying accounts and naq/uu....but in the end i also made about $5,000....depends if ur smart enough to spend ur cash wisely :p

[semper]

thank you mods.


To the point... I think that in this day and age a lot of people use $$ to fuel their accounts.. and this allows them to perform acts that would normally be far beyond them unless they really worked on their accounts. The money is lending them their station to do the acts that are getting them their names... and I feel it as somewhat false that they get hero worshipped for buying their ways to the tops. It's sorta like using steroids in sports...

As I said.. if I had a brainless enough approach to pour my money into my account.. I could have an amazing account by now.. and my feats in game could well be legendary... however... does that mean that I would truly deserve the right to claim the title of 'great player', 'good player', 'player of the year'... etc etc... I think spending $$ greatly dilutes ones prestige.. but at the same time.. a lot of people are oblivious to it.. and/or disagree.

[Rocky]

its the most oxymoronic thing to do, if you spend money on a free game.

[beliblisk]

I have a lot of contact with bunch of $$ spenders since i am in war against Fuall.Their MSs and planets are just to much to handle no mater how good player you are.

If you noticed they also are a bit touchy when some one calls them money spender.It is their soft spot cause deep down inside they know that they "cheated" in a way,just like semper said(using steroides in sports).

Sgw is great game and i really enjoy playing it but for those $$ i guess is just to easy.Like i said in different topic it like playing great game on you PC on rooky level.It just doesed give you much pleasure.

As for my oppinion of their greatness.......i dont respect them and never will

[deni]

I have a lot of contact with bunch of $$ spenders since i am in war against Fuall.Their MSs and planets are just to much to handle no mater how good player you are.

If you noticed they also are a bit touchy when some one calls them money spender.It is their soft spot cause deep down inside they know that they "cheated" in a way,just like semper said(using steroides in sports).

Sgw is great game and i really enjoy playing it but for those $$ i guess is just to easy.Like i said in different topic it like playing great game on you PC on rooky level.It just doesed give you much pleasure.

As for my oppinion of their greatness.......i dont respect them and never will

It is so amusing seeing who you claim that everyone in FUALL with a decent account or MS or planets is a $ spender.


Sure, most of us have bought an USS or two or AT from the Black market when there were none to be had for naq or uu, but that does not make them bad player or less worthy of respect (not that your respect means much to me) or less skilled.

IMO it is just an admittance of your own weakness and failure when you try to defend the stance "if you have a better account then me, then you have to have spent a lot of $ on the game" so feverishly.