Reform proposals

[[KMA]Avenger]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/voodoo-in-o ... house.html


[spoiler]Blair made political decisions based on new age reading of a hidden force called 'The Light'

London Times March 8 2004

In light of the damaging revelations of Blair's former business partner, Peter Foster, the Times of London today reported on Foster's allegations of the nature of Blair's relationship with his former 'style guru,' Carole Caplin.

The article stated,

Foster also claims Blair phoned Caplin on returning from a visit to George W Bush in April 2002. "She told me Tony said that war against Iraq was inevitable."

In the article in Vanity Fair, Foster claims that when Blair has had clashes with Gordon Brown he has sought advice from Caplin, who got her mother Sylvia to do a new age "reading" involving a hidden force called The Light.

Foster said: "Tony would call and Carole would say, 'I'll ask mum to channel on this and ring you back.' Then she'd call back and say, 'You must not confront him on this. Now isn't the right time'.",

The revelation that Blair channelled 'the light' (Lucifer?) and based political decisions on it is unsurprising in light of the past history of world leaders' fascination with the occult.[/spoiler]


http://www.infowars.com/articles/occult ... ession.htm


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002 ... columnists


http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_bohemian_grove.html


http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/reorder.html


http://www.prisonplanet.com/world_leade ... rship.html


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/pers ... Blair.html


[spoiler]Tony Blair & Wife
Perform Chant Ritual To
Lizards/Pyramid In Mexico
By Lorne Gunter
The Edmonton Journal
Published 12-30-1
1-1-2

In August, during a family holiday on the Mexican Riviera, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his wife, Cherie, went through a "re-birthing ritual."

According to a report in the Dec. 15 edition of the Times of London, the Blairs stayed at the very s w a n k y Maroma Hotel near Cancun, where rooms fetch as much as $1,800 Cdn a night. While there, they underwent the hybrid New Age/Mayan ceremony.

Dressed only in bathing suits, Britain's first couple stood outside a brick pyramid on the hotel's grounds and bowed toward each point of the compass while chanting to each of the four winds.

The spiritual leader of the ceremony encouraged them "to feel at one with Mother Earth," the Times reported, and to "experience inner feelings and visions."

The Blairs then moved around the outside of the pyramid, one façade at a time, praying first to the Mayan symbols of the sun and baby lizards, signifying spring and childhood. They then prayed to another wall, on which a bird was painted, representing adolescence, summer and freedom. One a third was a crab for maturity and autumn, and finally a serpent for winter and transformation.

Moving inside, Tony and Cherie immersed themselves in the herb-infused mist of a Mayan steam bath to sweat the physical and spiritual impurities from their bodies and to "balance their energy flow."

Mayan holy songs were incanted as they meditated and attempted to conjure up visions of animals in the steamy air. The celebrant explained the meaning of each of their hallucinations.

Before emerging from the pyramid, the Blairs were instructed to give voice to their hopes and fears (they said a prayer for world peace), and then undergo a "rebirth."

This involved smearing one another with papaya and watermelon, then with mud from the Mayan jungle outside, the Times explained.

Finally, while exiting the womb-door of the pyramid, "the Blairs were told to scream out loud to signify the pain" of birth. They then walked hand-in-hand to the beach for a dip in the Caribbean.

I'm sorry. I know we live in a non-judgemental age in which no one's spiritual practices and beliefs are to be pronounced better or worse than those of any other (more on this in a minute), but this is just downright flaky. It is not just the antithesis of Christianity, but antipodal to the beliefs of all the world's major monotheistic religions, Judaism and Islam as well.

It's just kooky. Any visions or spiritual ecstasy the Blairs experienced were psychosomatic, created by their own brains from their imaginations because of their need to say they saw something.

Mrs. Blair is said to be a devotee of all sorts of similar (and similarly goofy) alternative therapies and spiritualisms. She is said to wear a "bio-electric shield" pendant filled with "magic crystals" to absorb the negative radiation of cellphones and computer terminals. She studies with a New Age guru and officially opened a holistic medical centre in November.

Hillary Clinton, of course, while her husband Bill was President of the United States, famously met on numerous occasions in a conservatory at the White House with a mystic who helped her channel the spirit of Eleanor Roosevelt.

Aline Chretien, the wife of our own prime minister, was so devoted to the advice of psychic Jo-Jo Savard, that she once wrote a testimonial letter that figured prominently in television ads for Savard's psychic hotline.

And, lest you think I am picking only on the wives of liberal politicians, Nancy Reagan, the wife of former U.S. President Ronald Reagan, was well known for her routine consulting of a West Coast astrologer for advice on when Ronnie should fly or hold press conferences.

Now back to my point about this being a tolerant, non-judgemental age.

I know I will be in the minority, at least within the chattering classes, for suggesting that the Blairs' enthusiastic participation in a re-birthing might raise questions about his intellectual fitness to preside over the British government.

But now imagine the Blairs had instead joined in an ecstatic, full-immersion Christian baptism. Be honest, would you be as tolerant of them then as you are of their dabbling with Mayan paganism?

If they had professed to have spoken in tongues, as many charismatic Christians do, would you be as tolerant and non-judgemental as you are of the Blairs' hallucinations in the basil and tarragon humidity of the Maroma Hotel's pyramid?

Stockwell Day was deemed too dangerous to govern Canada by virtue of his fundamentalist Christian beliefs; why then is it any different to wonder if Tony Blair is too dangerous to govern Britain by virtue of his New Age spirituality? I am not a fundamentalist Christian. Yet I am curious why nearly every other faith or spirituality gets the benefit of the tolerance doubt, but not Christianity?

Just asking.[/spoiler]

[GhostyGoo]

So you think that it's likelier that politicians and celebrities have conspired to use a symbol that can be interpreted as being a symbol of satanic allegiance, "for the lols"?

This echos my sentiments so absolutely and entirely that i need say little more. You pick at everything we try to show you until you cannot pick at something irrefutable at which point you either simply ignore it, claim it's common knowledge or call it an "humourous mistake". 'Pophy, you are doomed. I feel for ya, though.

-Goo™

[[KMA]Avenger]

getting back to the topic of reforms...

at the end of the day, NO amount of reforms will sort out a system which is so blatantly corrupt (the word "corrupt" doesn't even begin to describe how bad the system is, not just in any single country, but worldwide).


http://www.natural-health-information-c ... arius.html

http://web.mac.com/len15/FLUSCAM/HOME.html

[agapooka]

Well, as far as "reforms" go, European reforms to the Native American way of living has ruined... everything:

1. The environment
2. The natives' way of life
3. Peace... it RUINED peace

The Natives in North America had learned to leave peaceably and in harmony with the planet. Perhaps we could learn from them instead of trying to continue with our own, twisted ideas.

Agpooka

[Juliette]

Well, as far as "reforms" go, European reforms to the Native American way of living has ruined... everything:

1. The environment
2. The natives' way of life
3. Peace... it RUINED peace

The Natives in North America had learned to leave peaceably and in harmony with the planet. Perhaps we could learn from them instead of trying to continue with our own, twisted ideas.

Agpooka

Ag*a*pooka.
Yes. Good call.

[Legendary Apophis]

So you think that it's likelier that politicians and celebrities have conspired to use a symbol that can be interpreted as being a symbol of satanic allegiance, "for the lols"?

This echos my sentiments so absolutely and entirely that i need say little more. You pick at everything we try to show you until you cannot pick at something irrefutable at which point you either simply ignore it, claim it's common knowledge or call it an "humourous mistake". 'Pophy, you are doomed. I feel for ya, though.

-Goo™

That's how I feel right now when I read that!

I am not the one doomed, I am not the one excessively paranoid about stuff and being surrounded by demons like if I was in Charmed or something.


But you do realize it would be one big of a hard change?
We are so populated that building little houses replacing buildings would face lack of space. That would be an issue.
I don't mind ecological energies, solar, wind and water...that could be the point which works the best.
But, how to replace petroleum? Our roads and plastic are made from it. Wood is precious and disappears in Amazonia, that has to stop. But then, what to use? Probably steel then.
Now, about cars. Apparent problem with ethanol is that it requires very large spaces of cultures. Now, with the excess of population and need of food, that would be a problem. But still...it's better than petroleum.

All of this reminds me of speech from far right movements seeing conspiracies everywhere. The zion conspiracy, the state conspiracy...
There it's the satanist conspiracy...now, what's the next conspiracy in the schedule?
I'd be more likely to believe in infiltrated aliens in corporations & governement than those cheap conspiricies mentionned on last few pages.

I also feel for ya, you know.

Well, as far as "reforms" go, European reforms to the Native American way of living has ruined... everything:

1. The environment
2. The natives' way of life
3. Peace... it RUINED peace

The Natives in North America had learned to leave peaceably and in harmony with the planet. Perhaps we could learn from them instead of trying to continue with our own, twisted ideas.

Agpooka

Finally something worth considering...
After all this 666 overdose, I felt this topic was doomed 6 feet under!

[GhostyGoo]

Many aspects of "the system" can be cured because they are not explicitly hinged upon "the human condition". They are hinged on capitalism and consumerism. Now, one of these is a natural materialistic need we humans don't seem to be able to do without and the other is the clandestine means by which this flaw in the human psyche or ego is exploited.

Thanks to your above post Avenger i am able to "go out on a limb" as it were and say, succinctly, it can be fixed - Socialism (a form of it at least) is the answer and we, in Britain, have a very much coveted head start thanks, in many regards, to the last great Labour government.

Surely the clue is in the name? Socialism.

Social is real, it is reality, it is a true consideration in terms of law, philosophy, psychology and *cough for the numbsters* sociology.

Capital is gains. Capital is empty. Capital is soulless. Capital is the shadow a human walks around in, the fictional value of human life. It is sick, twisted and cannot ever reside safely within the human psyche. As soon as capitalism takes a hold of the human ego, we have crimes (of anything other than passion), general social illness and war.

Capitalism is undemocratic. It needs you to leave your fellow Earthling out in the cold, it needs you to leave your own essential being out in the cold, forgotten. To ignore your own voice of reason? The voice of humanity? How can you be democratic if you relinquish your non-fictional, essential, being...Your Freedom...to credit and debt? You are a slave to debt through capitalism - you are not free yet you call your captor the democrat! You are suffering stockholme syndrome.

How can you believe you are somehow inferior because you can't obtain credit?
How can you believe yourself to be unnatural because you are not in debt?
How can you love your captor?

Socialism is democratic, truly democratic. Capitalism is not. I would love to hear an intellectual answer to a very fundamental question-

In a capitalist, privatised state when your doctor says you need a new kidney, how do you know that he simply doesn't need a new yacht? In a Socialist system where the governement regulates the private sector but doesn't fund it, spending the funds only back into the social sector, we know that beyond shadow of a doubt if you need a new kidney, you need one. Why? Because of the pay scale. Because of the Hippocratic Corpus. Because you are safe from profit.

If you are profiteering, you cannot be ethical because in the system of fractional reserve there is always foreclosure. How can foreclosure be ethical? The foreclosure of one is transferred, through capital gain, to be your profit. It is musical chairs, on a global scale. If one country prospers from a good market you can bet your bottom dollar ('scuse the pun, totally intended) that another country is literally dieing for a DRINK OF WATER.



Capitalists continue to refuse to answer these questions and i'm quite sure one will be along in good time to to exactly that, a big fat nothing.

Well, as far as "reforms" go, European reforms to the Native American way of living has ruined... everything:

1. The environment
2. The natives' way of life
3. Peace... it RUINED peace

The Natives in North America had learned to leave peaceably and in harmony with the planet. Perhaps we could learn from them instead of trying to continue with our own, twisted ideas.

Agpooka

Absolutely. I often think to myself, why did Britain ever even bother to develop itself out of the Feudal age? For the sake of platonic good!! There are as yet undiscovered tribes in the deepest parts of the amazon that are more socially developed than us, and why?







because we have not yet discovered them.

Capitalism, all through it's rotten fictional body, attempts to mimic human nature in order to get away with itself. In order to fool you into thinking it, itself, is natural. From stealing your non-personable human rights as an Earthling under natural law, to crawling out from the seas to do such and claim it is your future. Capitalism. It's not the future, it's the wire holding you back.

-Goo™....people need reminding constantly. Profiteers? Privateers? Pirates.

[Legendary Apophis]

Show me examples of successful socialist/communist countries. Because we all love theory, but it's about practice in the end, afterall.

What you mentionned is pure theory. That's why many people believeD socialism would be good. They saw the THEORY. I was blind before, I just seen the theory. Then I realized there was also something else, the practice, the existing examples. And there...I realized it was not worth it.
But, as I said many times in those forums, in a system, you got the theory, and the practice.

Also, it's COMPLETLY utopic to believe that socialism would work as in theory it could AND solve all problems and everyone living in harmony. We are too many now anyway. No matter what kind of system is being used, it's too late. It's really time to start sending people to Mars.

I'll be glad to comment every point you raised, but first, I want exampleS of success.

[GhostyGoo]

Show me examples of successful socialist/communist countries. Because we all love theory, but it's about practice in the end, afterall..

How about i show you, instead, several examples of socialism which were systematically (often at the cost of unfeasable human sacrifice *cough* vietnam) obliterated by Capitalism hiding behind "democratic" republics despite those "democratic" republics refusing to listen to the voice of the general populace (ie it's democracy) on the matter?

Frankly sir, if you need examples of great Socialism you need look no further than the financial capital of your much defended fascist regime - The United Kingdom. We are currently governed by a socialist party, or didn't you know?

Get wise before you nitpick me Squire...you'll find me quite the annoying adversary.

Also, could you point out where i mentioned communism? Not that i think communism is a bad thing, i will discuss communism if you wish but only upon the understanding that YOU brought it up.

We are doomed? Too many of us? Nihilism. Just what every healthy debate needs....nihilism. Not only Nihilism but nihilism without a healthy acknowledgement of it's own accepted philosophical flaws.

As is much conceded in Western Philosophy, existentialism encompasses and so therefore "trumps" nihilism, without ever needing to refute Sartre's massively important opus to Nothing.

Go to Mars? We might have, if the capitalist media machine had not faked a moon landing thus weakening the hearts of the communist rivals and consequently dashing any hopes for a cosmonautical approach (which was ultimately superior) to space travel.

-Goo™

[Legendary Apophis]

Show me examples of successful socialist/communist countries. Because we all love theory, but it's about practice in the end, afterall..

How about i show you, instead, several examples of socialism which were systematically (often at the cost of unfeasable human sacrifice *cough* vietnam) obliterated by Capitalism hiding behind "democratic" republics despite those "democratic" republics refusing to listen to the voice of the general populace (ie it's democracy) on the matter?

Frankly sir, if you need examples of great Socialism you need look no further than the financial capital of your much defended fascist regime - The United Kingdom. We are currently governed by a socialist party, or didn't you know?

Get wise before you nitpick me Squire...you'll find me quite the annoying adversary.

-Goo™

Oh come on, Vietnam was nationalist "puppeted by the US" in the south and communist "puppeted by China" in the north. Cold War front where freedom and democracy wasn't more existing on US side than commies side. Freedom in both went as long as you followed the orders and didn't criticize the regime.

Oh, sorry but I am not from the UK, didn't you know?
I know you in the UK got Labour Party in office, though.

[[KMA]Avenger]

All of this reminds me of speech from far right movements seeing conspiracies everywhere. The zion conspiracy, the state conspiracy...

i cant speak for anyone else here, but as far as i am concerned mate and in the current global structure of the political system, i am an atheist, i despise and HATE the right, left and the centre...they are ALL as sick and twisted as each other. so no mate this isn't right wing rhetoric.

There it's the satanist conspiracy...now, what's the next conspiracy in the schedule?

i gave you enough links and proof to prove to you that what i say is true, and there is more than enough evidence for you to go find out for yourself...watch out for the kitty, its a lion, deny it as much as you want, its still a lion and it will bite you.

I'd be more likely to believe in infiltrated aliens in corporations & governement than those cheap conspiricies mentionned on last few pages.

i believe you, because i understand all to well the brainwashing of the TV and media-has done such a fantastic job on most of the worlds population that they would sooner believe a conspiracy of "little green men" than bankers wanting to wipe out 90% of the worlds population...even tho the bankers admit to it in their own publications and writings, as well as put it stone for all to see!


http://www.prisonplanet.com/holdren-for ... osals.html

i suggest you use google and learn all about Obama's top science advisor and his book. all the things he wrote about in that book way back in the 70's is now being implemented.

[GhostyGoo]

freedom and democracy wasn't more existing on US side than commies side.

To restate my previous statings - you brought up communism, not me.

Oh, sorry but I am not from the UK, didn't you know?
I know you in the UK got Labour Party in office, though.

Right, so, why are you trying to be funny? I have provided you with your example as requested. I fail to see your point, even from a comical aspect.

-Goo™

[Legendary Apophis]

Anyway, the real immediate threat is spreading surely, thanks to people yelling all the time freedom of culture and freedom of religion, brainwashed and suffering from an alternative sydnrom of Stockholm. Heck, most of people are blind to it. But no, bankers are the major problem.
Now, what I notice every day, and I'm sure some people would back me on this, isn't that I strangely lose money of mine or something related to banks no...however what I notice is people trying to change our traditions, our laws, always pushing up until they are listened.

Also, you brought up Vietnam, and as far as I know, the north was communist, not socialist. Or even if it was socialist, it was a puppet to China. So I stand my point. They were puppets nonetheless.


Ever read the article about Rotterdam?
(Oh I sooo expect someone will say it's manipulated by the "evil vaticanists" )
Yes it's long, but sorry, I concern myself a bit more about this firstly than about satanist groups.
http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/ar ... 8480?eng=y
[spoiler]

ROME, May 19, 2009 – One of the most indisputable results of Benedict XVI's trip to the Holy Land was the improvement in relations with Islam. The three days he spent in Jordan, and then, in Jerusalem, the visit to the Dome of the Mosque, spread an image among the Muslim general public – to an extent never before seen – of a pope as a friend, surrounded by Islamic leaders happy to welcome him and work together with him for the good of the human family.

But just as indisputable is the distance between this image and the harsh reality of the facts. Not only in countries under Muslim regimes, but also where the followers of Mohammed are in the minority, for example in Europe.

In 2002, the scholar Bat Ye'or, a British citizen born in Egypt and a specialist in the history of the Christian and Jewish minorities in Muslim countries – called the "dhimmi" – coined the term "Eurabia" to describe the fate toward which Europe is moving. It is a fate of submission to Islam, of "dhimmitude."

Oriana Fallaci used the word "Eurabia" in her writings, and gave it worldwide resonance. On August 1, 2005, Benedict XVI received Fallaci in a private audience at Castel Gandolfo. She rejected dialogue with Islam; he was in favor of it, and still is. But they agreed – as Fallaci later said – in identifying the "self-hatred" that Europe demonstrates, its spiritual vacuum, its loss of identity, precisely when the immigrants of Islamic faith are increasing within it.

Holland is an extraordinary test case. It is the country in which individual license is the most extensive – to the point of permitting euthanasia on children – in which the Christian identity is most faded, in which the Moslem presence is growing most boldly.

Here, multiculturalism is the rule. But the exceptions are dramatic: from the killing of the anti-Islamist political leader Pim Fortuyn to the persecution of the Somali dissident Ayaan Hirsi Ali to the murder of the director Theo Van Gogh, condemned to death for his film "Submission," a denunciation of the crimes of Muslim theocracy. Fortuyn's successor, Geert Wilders, has lived under 24-hour police protection for six years.

There is one city in Holland where this new reality can be seen with the naked eye, more than anywhere else. Here, entire neighborhoods look as if they have been lifted from the Middle East, here stand the largest mosques in Europe, here parts of sharia law are applied in the courts and theaters, here many of the women go around veiled, here the mayor is a Muslim, the son of an imam.

This city is Rotterdam, Holland's second largest city by population, and the largest port in Europe by cargo volume.

The following is a report on Rotterdam published in the Italian newspaper "il Foglio" on May 14, 2009, the second in a major seven-part survey on Holland.

The author, Giulio Meotti, also writes for the "Wall Street Journal." Next September, his book-length survey on Israel will be published.

The photo above is entitled "Muslim women in Rotterdam." It is from an exhibition in 2008 by the Dutch photographers Ari Versluis and Ellie Uyttenbroek.


In the casbah of Rotterdam

by Giulio Meotti


In Feyenoord, veiled women can be seen everywhere, darting like a flash through the streets of the neighborhood. They avoid any sort of contact, even eye contact, especially with men. Feyenoord is the size of a city, and there are seventy nationalities coexisting there. It is an area that lives on subsidies and residential construction, and it is here that it is most obvious that Holland – with all of its rules against discrimination and all of its moral indignation – is a completely segregated society. Rotterdam is new, having been bombed twice by the Luftwaffe during the second world war. Like Amsterdam, it is below sea level, but unlike the capital it does not enjoy an image of reckless abandon. In Rotterdam, it is the Arab shops selling halal food that dominate the cityscape, not the neon lights of the prostitutes. Everywhere are casbah-cafes, travel agencies offering flights to Rabat and Casablanca, posters expressing solidarity with Hamas, or offering affordable Dutch language lessons.

It is the second-largest city in the country, a poor city, but also the economic engine with its huge port, the most important in Europe. Most of the population are immigrants, and the city has the tallest and most imposing mosque in Europe. Sixty percent of the foreigners who arrive in Holland come here to live. The most striking thing when one arrives in the city by train are the enormous and fascinating mosques framed by the vibrant green, luxuriant, wooded, watery countryside, like an alien presence compared to the rest. They call it "Eurabia." The Turkish Mevlana mosque is imposing. It has the tallest minarets in Europe, even higher than the stadium of the Feyenoord soccer team.

Many of the neighborhoods in Rotterdam are captive to the darkest, most violent form of Islamism. Pim Fortuyn's house stands out like a pearl in a sea of chador and niqab. It is at number 11 Burgerplein, behind the train station. Every now and then someone comes to put flowers in front of the home of the professor who was murdered in Amsterdam on May 6, 2002. Someone else leaves a card: "In Holland everything is tolerated, except for the truth." A millionaire named Chris Tummesen bought Pim Fortuyn's house so that it would remain intact. The evening before his murder Pim was nervous, and had said on television that a climate of demonization had been created against him and his ideas. And his fears came true, when he was shot in the head five times by Volkert van der Graaf, a militant of the animal rights left, scrawny, head shaved, eyes dark, dressed like an environmental purist in a handmade shirt, sandals, and goat's wool socks, a strict vegetarian, "a guy impatient to change the world," his friends say.

Not long ago in downtown Rotterdam, funerary photos of Geert Wilders were placed under a tree, with a candle to commemorate his upcoming death. Today Wilders is the most popular politician in the city. He is the heir of Fortuyn, the homosexual, Catholic, ex-Markist professor who had formed his own party to save the country from Islamization. At his funeral, only the absence of Queen Beatrice kept the farewell to the "divine Pim" from becoming a funeral fit for a king. Before his death they made a monster of him (one Dutch minister called him an "untermensch," an inferior man in Nazi parlance), afterward they idolized him. The prostitutes of Amsterdam left a wreath of flowers in his honor beneath the National Monument in Dam Square, a memorial to the victims of World War II.

Three months ago, "The Economist," a weekly publication far from Wilders' anti-Islamic ideas, spoke of Rotterdam as a "Eurabian nightmare." For most of the Dutch who live there, Islamism is now a threat greater than the Delta Plan, the complicated system of dikes that prevents flooding from the sea, like the flood in 1953 that killed two thousand people. The picturesque town of Schiedam, part of the greater Rotterdam area, has always been a jewel in the Dutch imagination. Then the fairy tale glow faded, when in the newspapers three years ago it became the city of Farid A., the Islamist who made death threats against Wilders and Somali dissident Ayaan Hirsi Ali. For six years, Wilders has lived under 24-hour police protection.

Muslim lawyers in Rotterdam also want to change the rules of the courtroom, asking to be allowed to remain seated when the judge enters. They recognize Allah alone. The lawyer Mohammed Enait recently refused to stand when the magistrates enter the courtroom, saying that "Islam teaches that all men are equal." The court of Rotterdam has recognized Enait's right to remain seated: "There is no legal obligation requiring Muslim lawyers to stand in front of the court, insofar as this action is in contrast with the dictates of the Islamic faith." Enait, the head of the legal office Jairam Advocaten, has explained that "he considers all men equal, and does not acknowledge any form of deference toward anyone." All men, but not all women. Enait is well known for his refusal to shake hands with women, and has repeatedly said he would prefer them to wear the burqa. And there are many burqas on the streets of Rotterdam.

The fact that Eurabia has arrived in Rotterdam has been demonstrated by an episode in April at the Zuidplein Theatre, one of the most prestigious in the city, a modernist theater proud of "representing the cultural diversity of Rotterdam." It is located in the southern part of the city, and receives funding from the municipality, headed by a Muslim, the son of the imam Ahmed Aboutaleb. Three weeks ago, the Zuidplein Theatre allowed an entire balcony to be reserved for women only, in the name of sharia. This is not happening in Pakistan or in Saudi Arabia, but in the city from which the Founding Fathers set out for the United States. It was from here that the Puritans disembarked in the Speedwell, which they later exchanged for the Mayflower. This is where the American adventure began. Today, it has legalized sharia.

For a performance by the Muslim Salaheddine Benchikhi, the Zuidplein Theatre agreed to his request to have the first five rows set aside for women only. Salaheddine, an editorialist for the website Morokko.nl, is known for his opposition to the integration of Muslims. The city council has approved this: "According to our Western values, the freedom to live one's own life by virtue of one's convictions is a precious possession." A spokesman for the theater has also defended the director: "It is hard to get Muslims to come to the theater, so we are willing to adapt."

Another man who has been willing to adapt is the director Gerrit Timmers. His words are fairly symptomatic of what Wilders calls "self-Islamization." The first case of self-censorship took place in Rotterdam, in December of 2000. Timmers, the director of the theater group Onafhankelijk Toneel, wanted to stage a performance about the life of Mohammed's wife Aisha. The play was boycotted by the Muslim actors in the company when it became evident that it would be a target for the Islamists. "We are enthusiastic about the play, but fear reigns," the actors told him. The composer, Najib Cherradi, said that he would withdraw "for the good of my daughter." The newspaper "Handelsblad" gave the story the title "Tehran on the Meuse," the name of the gentle river that passes through Rotterdam. "I had already done three works about the Moroccans, so I wanted to have Muslim actors and singers," Timmers tells us. "Then they told me that it was a dangerous issue, and they could not participate, because they had received death threats. In Rabat, an article came out saying we would end up like Salman Rushdie. For me, it was more important to continue the dialogue with the Moroccans, rather than provoke them. For this reason, I see no problem if the Muslims want to separate the men from the women in a theater."

Let's meet the director who has brought sharia to the Dutch theaters, Salaheddine Benchikhi. He is young, modern, confident, and speaks perfect English. "I defend the decision to separate the men from the women, because here there is freedom of expression and organization. If people can't sit where they want to, that is discrimination. There are two million Muslims in Holland, and they want our tradition to become public, everything is evolving. Mayor Aboutaleb has supported me."

One year ago, the city was buzzing when the newspapers published a letter by Bouchra Ismaili, a Rotterdam city councilman: "Listen up, crazy freaks, we're here to stay. You're the foreigners here, with Allah on my side I'm not afraid of anything. Take my advice: convert to Islam, and you will find peace." Just a walk through the streets of the city, and you know right away that in many neighborhoods you are no longer in Holland. It is right out of the Middle East. In some schools, there is a "room of silence" where Muslim students, who are in the majority, can pray five times a day, with a poster of Mecca, the Qur'an, and a ritual washing before the prayers. Another Muslim city councilman, Brahim Bourzik, wants signs placed in various parts of the city showing the direction to Mecca.

Sylvain Ephimenco is a Franco-Dutch journalist who has been living in Rotterdam for twelve years. For twenty years, he was the "Libération" correspondent in Holland, and is proud of his leftist credentials. "Even though I don't believe in that anymore," he says, welcoming us to his home overlooking one of Rotterdam's little canals. Not far from here is the al Nasr mosque of the imam Khalil al Moumni, who when gay marriage was legalized described homosexuals as "sick people worse than pigs." From the outside, it can be seen that the mosque is more than twenty years old, having been built by the first Moroccan immigrants. Moumni has written a pamphlet that is circulating around the Dutch mosques, "The path of the Muslim," in which he explains that the heads of homosexuals should be cut off and "hung from the highest building in the city." Next to the al Nasr mosque, we sit down at a cafe for men only. In front of us is a halal Islamic slaughterhouse. Ephimenco is the author of three essays on Holland and Islam, and today is a famous columnist for the leftist Christian newspaper "Trouw." He has the best perspective for understanding a city that, perhaps even more than Amsterdam, embodies the tragedy of Holland.

"It is not at all true that Wilders gets his votes from the fringes, everyone knows that, even though they don't say it," he tells us. "Today educated people vote for Wilders, although at first it was the lower class Dutch, the tattoo crowd. Many academics and people on the left vote for him. The problem is all of these Islamic headscarves. There's a supermarket behind my house. When I arrived, there wasn't a single headscarf. Now it's all Muslim women with the chador at the register. Wilders is not Haider. His positions are on the right, but also on the left, he's a typical Dutchman. Here there are even hours at the swimming pool set aside for Muslim women. This is the origin of the vote for Wilders. Islamization, this foolishness with the theater, has to be stopped. In Utrecht, there is a mosque where they provide separate city services for men and women. The Dutch are afraid. Wilders is against the Frankenstein of multiculturalism. I, who used to be on the left but am no longer anything, I say we've reached the limit. I feel the ideals of the Enlightenment have been betrayed with this voluntary apartheid, in my heart I feel the death of the ideals of the equality of men and women, and freedom of expression. Here the left is conformist, and the right has the better answer to insane multiculturalism."

One of the professors at Erasmus University in Rotterdam is Tariq Ramadan, the famous Swiss Islamic scholar who is also a special adviser for the city. Some of Ramadan's statements against homosexuality were uncovered by Holland's most famous gay magazine, "Gay Krant," directed by a talkative journalist named Henk Krol. On a videocassette, Ramadan calls homosexuality "a disease, a disorder, an imbalance." On the tape, Ramadan also has comments on women, "they should keep their eyes on the ground when they're on the street." Wilders' party asked for the city council to be disbanded, and for the Islamic scholar from Geneva to be sent packing, but instead he was renewed in his post for two more years. This was happening while across the sea, the Obama administration was confirming the ban on Ramadan entering United States territory. The tapes in Krol's possession include one in which Ramadan tells women: "Allah has an important rule: if you try to attract attention through the use of perfume, or your appearance or gestures, you do not have the correct spiritual orientation."

"When Pim Fortuyn was killed, it was a shock for everyone, because a man was murdered for what he said," Krol tells us. "That was no longer my country. I'm still thinking about leaving Holland, but where can I go? Here we have been criticized by everyone, by the Catholic Church and by the Protestants. But when we criticized Islam, they answered us: you are creating new enemies!" According to Ephimenco, the street is the secret of Wilders' success: "In Rotterdam, there are three enormous mosques, one of them is the largest in Europe. There are more and more Islamic headscarves, and an Islamist impulse coming from the mosques. I know many people who have left the city center to go to the rich, white suburbs. My neighborhood is poor and black. It is a question of identity, on the streets Dutch is not spoken anymore, but Arabic and Turkish."

Let's meet the man who inherited Fortuyn's column in the newspaper "Elsevier." His name is Bart Jan Spruyt, a robust young Protestant intellectual, founder of the Edmund Burke Society, but above all the author of Wilders' "Declaration of independence," and his coworker from the beginning. "Here an immigrant no longer has to struggle, study, work, he can live at the expense of the state," Spruyt tells us. "We have ended up creating a parallel society. The Muslims are in the majority in many neighborhoods, and are asking for sharia. This isn't Holland anymore. Our use of freedom has turned back against us, it is a process of self-Islamization."

Spruyt was one of Fortuyn's close friends. "Pim said what the people had known for decades." He attacked the establishment and the journalists. It was a great relief for the people when he went into politics, they called him the 'white knight'. The last time I spoke with him, one week before he was killed, he told me he had a mission. His killing was not the act of a lone madman. In February of 2001, Pim announced that he wanted to change the first article of the Dutch constitution, on discrimination, because in his view it kills freedom of expression, and he was right. The following day in the Dutch churches, which are mostly empty and used for public meetings, the diary of Anne Frank was read as a warning against Fortuyn. Pim was truly Catholic, more than we think, in his books he spoke out against modern society without fathers, without values, empty, nihilist."

Chris Ripke is a well-known artist in the city. His studio is near a mosque in Insuindestraat. Shocked in 2004 by the murder of director Theo Van Gogh by an Dutch Islamist, Chris decided to paint an angel on wall of his studio and the biblical commandment "Gij zult niet doden," thou shalt not kill. His neighbors at the mosque found the words "offensive," and called the mayor of Rotterdam at the time, the liberal Ivo Opstelten. The mayor ordered the police to erase the painting, because it was "racist." Wim Nottroth, a television journalist, camped out on the spot in protest. The police arrested him, and his film was destroyed. Ephimenco did the same in his own window: "I put up a big white sheet with the biblical commandment. Photographers came, and the radio. If you can no longer write 'do not kill' in this country, then you are saying that we are all in prison. It is like apartheid, whites living with whites and blacks with blacks. There is a great chill. Islamism wants to change the structure of the country." For Ephimenco, part of the problem is the de-Christianization of society. "When I arrived here, during the 1960's, religion was dying, a unique event in Europe, a collective de-Christianization. Then the Muslims brought religion back to the center of social life. Aided by the anti-Christian elite."

Let's go for a stroll through the Islamized neighborhoods. In Oude Westen there are only Arabs, women clothed from head to foot, ethnic foods shops, Islamic restaurants, and shopping centers with Arabic music. "Ten years ago, you didn't see all these headscarves," Ephimenco says. Behind his house, in a flourishing middle class area with two-story houses, there is an Islamized neighborhood. There are Muslim signs everywhere. "Look at all of those Turkish flags, over there is an important church, but it's empty, no one goes there anymore." In the middle of one square stands a mosque with Arabic writing outside. "That used to be a church." Not far from here is the most beautiful monument in Rotterdam. It is a small granite statue of Pim Fortuyn. Beneath the gleaming bronze head, the mouth saying his last words on behalf of freedom of speech, there is written in Latin: "Loquendi libertatem custodiamus," let us safeguard the right to speak. Every day, someone places flowers there.

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Now it's not about someone doing signs or having factory signs with some look alike...it's everyday real life!!!!



Oh noes...pleaaaaase! Not again the "we never landed to moon" stuff!

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Oh noes...pleaaaaase! Not again the "we never landed to moon" stuff!

why is it the "debunkers" always try to associate "the moon landings (or lack of)" and "little green men" with the global conspiracy in order to try and make "us" look foolish?!

perhaps its because you cannot counter what we say?!

or maybe its because your counter arguments are so weak?!


regardless, believe what you will.

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Oh noes...pleaaaaase! Not again the "we never landed to moon" stuff!

why is it the "debunkers" always try to associate "the moon landings (or lack of)" and "little green men" with the global conspiracy in order to try and make "us" look foolish?!

perhaps its because you cannot counter what we say?!

or maybe its because your counter arguments are so weak?!


regardless, believe what you will.

Sorry, but I'm not the one in denial here.
Oh wait, I deny the denial. So it makes me deny in some way. But still...

Some of your claims will likely happen probably some day (I mean the unnatural selection, eugenics and all). But oh...guess why it will happen? Because population will have reached critical mass!

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