Planet Bug

[Clarkey]

I've been told that if you have very small fleet when trying to reclaim a planet (i.e. by clicking on the button in the attack logs) that you lost and the defence is massive then you get that "knocking on door" message.

However, if you have small fleet and try to take a planet as normal (i.e. not reclaiming it) and it has massive defences then you get the usual battle report.

But I will have to confirm this with Jason.

And if this is indeed correct then it may need tweeking, and the "knocking on door" message, however humerous people may find it, needs to be more informative as to what it is referring to.

[Lore]

Hm. You appear to be at the right house, but the wrong people answer the door...

So explain to me why I am getting this message now on a planet steal

11:18 ***** Omega X lost

it is now

GameTime: Sep08 - 16:33.58

So its about 5 hr old, clicking the "conquer plabet link brings up

Planet Conquering Mission
Target: *****
Attack turns to use? / 15

and the planet list in which the stolen planet is not there.

any explination why you get the same message to 2 different senerios?


And @ Robe,, Thanks for the info, but if you can't leave the alliance/server war BS at the door, please just don't bother. Really don't care anything about listening to your babbling propaganda, nor anyone elses. This was about the issue, and one that still seems to exist, and as you see I chose to make this thread about the issue, not the people involved. I'm here to fix or atleast attempt to fix and issue/problem, not spout off propaganda and try to rile someone up. Atleast try to respect that.


Back to the topic, Some clarification would be nice from admin, and an explination so it is known what these rather stupid remarks mean.

Oh and Robe, since you seem to crave attention so much, Good job on the planet steals, honestly, I made a severe mistake and you did what you were suppose to do, congradulations.

[Dracons]

I found a small bug relating to planets. It seems be able to occur right before the game is backed up. Or maybe it was a once in a lifetime fluke? I cannot really say since I do not often log on right before a back up.

Anyway, if what I experienced is normal then right before the users are kicked off due to back up, there is a small span of time in which a player's planets are removed. During this time the person may send out their mothership or create a planet due to their planet count being reset to zero. After the back up, the players planets are returned and any new planets that may be gained due to that brief window are not revoked. This means that a person could gain possession of more than 10 planets.

In case my account needs be rebalanced due to the gains from the extra planet (which I have abandoned), 180 mil naq should be deducted from my profile. That is an estimate rounded up to the nearest 10 mil naq.

[Clarkey]

I found a small bug relating to planets. It seems be able to occur right before the game is backed up. Or maybe it was a once in a lifetime fluke? I cannot really say since I do not often log on right before a back up.

Anyway, if what I experienced is normal then right before the users are kicked off due to back up, there is a small span of time in which a player's planets are removed. During this time the person may send out their mothership or create a planet due to their planet count being reset to zero. After the back up, the players planets are returned and any new planets that may be gained due to that brief window are not revoked. This means that a person could gain possession of more than 10 planets.

In case my account needs be rebalanced due to the gains from the extra planet (which I have abandoned), 180 mil naq should be deducted from my profile. That is an estimate rounded up to the nearest 10 mil naq.

Is this "back up" you refer to around the 03:00 Game Time mark? Or are you talking about the other day when the game was temporarily shut for a new update to be added and all planets temporarily disappeared? If it was the latter then it is not the daily back up and is unlikely to happen again.

[Dracons]

The game update. As I said, it is likely a fluke, but I still thought I would bring it to attention.

[schuesseled]

I think I can explain this.

As robe stated the planets were stolen and then a defence built.

Which means it is likely it was the message you get when you try to take a planet when your fleet power is less than 15% (or could be 10%, its one of the two) of the total defences, instead of allowing you to attack it and loose all your fleets it simply denies the attack, assumeably giving you a message, assumably knocking on the door. I myself dont attack planets so I cant confirm if you do indeed get said message but im sure about the %'s rule and getting a message apposed to simply nothing happening would be sensible.

...

Edit okay, just checked this.

You must have at least a small small portion of the defensive value of a planet (somewhere between 10 and 15 percent), in fleet strength, in order to convince your pilots that it is not a complete suicide mission without meaning...

That is the message that comes up. So im at a loss.

Original thought revoked, cant explain,

Ian ... the unwise.

[Sarevok]

AH, but is that trying to take back your OWN planet, or STEAL someone else's. I can confirm this happens when trying to steal a planet, but not when the planet was taken, defense added, and then you attempt an attack

[Clarkey]

Message "Hm. You appear to be at the right house, but the wrong people answer the door..."

Means.......

The game itself believes that the person trying to claim back their planet within the 12hr time slot is not the original owner that lost the planet. The game infact believes the planet has since swapped hands, and example....

Player A - Original Owner
Player B - Planet Stealer

Player B takes planet from Player A and keeps the planet. Within 12hrs Player A goes to attack logs to reclaim the planet. Sometimes this works with no glitch. However, sometimes the game glitches and believes that the planet has changed hands again within that time, therefore believing that Player A was not the previous owner and therefore is not allowed to take the planet. Hence they get that rather clueless message.

Jason is aware of this and it is up to him to look at the coding to see why this sometimes happens.
It is a bug, and a very unfortunate one for those that are affected by it.

Has Jason looked at it yet? I don't know, but it's down to the community to bug him at Player Meet to get him to do it. I've done my bit and got an answer to this bug and made him aware of it.

[Lore]

by chance any word from admin on this, or another known bug let go?

[Clarkey]

by chance any word from admin on this, or another known bug let go?

I haven't asked him since. Last meet I was going through the ME bugs for him.

[Lore]

Clarkey, its not your job to hold his hand, he is a grown man.

And this strengthens my feelings that admin does not care about the players, only the $$ they produce.

[Sarevok]

It is a bit of a worry. Though I'd like to see response times one the alliance update has been brought in

[Lore]

It is a bit of a worry. Though I'd like to see response times one the alliance update has been brought in

Well over a year now

Should I just give up on this bug already?

[Sarevok]

Can you try replicating it with *useless* planets, and test various planet defense values?

[Lore]

Can you try replicating it with *useless* planets, and test various planet defense values?

Sorry but no, if admins to lazy and uncaring to fix a known bug, or to even express if it is or is not a bug, nor fix it,,,,,,WHY would I want to waste my time to do something he wont even look at for weeks, months, or maybe even a year if ever? Not to mention the cost I would have to pay to do his job?

I no longer care personally, but sooner or later when planets get stolen by such means and lost unfairly by people who paid $$ for his planets,,, well I'll have no sympathy for the whinning and crying hes going to endure. Its his own fault and hes been warned more then once.