At the moment, I am trying to set up a spread sheet to compare the costs of mothership upgrades and tech levels. I have finally figured out the formula to calculate the exact cost of upgrading both weapons and shields based on current and target raw capacities:
Cost=([y*(y+1)/2]-[x*(x+1)/2])*10,000
where x is your current weapon capacity, and y is your desired capacity. For shields, you multiply by 12,000 instead of 10,000.
I cannot, however, manage to tweak it to give me the number of upgrades I can buy with a given amount of Naquadah. This is for all the gifted mathematicians out there.
Any help?
Mothership Cost and Tech Level Formula
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Re: Mothership Cost and Tech Level Formula
did u check it against one of the calculators out there?
I would have used Cost = (y/2(2a+(y-1)*10000)) - (x/2(2a+(x-1)*10000))
x being ur current capacity, y being desired and a being ur first cost.
a = 10000.. Although mines is a bit more complicated
what equation u used for ur problem? i would have made ur equation a quadratic nd then solved for x
I would have used Cost = (y/2(2a+(y-1)*10000)) - (x/2(2a+(x-1)*10000))
x being ur current capacity, y being desired and a being ur first cost.
a = 10000.. Although mines is a bit more complicated
what equation u used for ur problem? i would have made ur equation a quadratic nd then solved for x

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Re: Mothership Cost and Tech Level Formula
zizi710 wrote:did u check it against one of the calculators out there?
I would have used Cost = (y/2(2a+(y-1)*10000)) - (x/2(2a+(x-1)*10000))
x being ur current capacity, y being desired and a being ur first cost.
a = 10000.. Although mines is a bit more complicated![]()
what equation u used for ur problem? i would have made ur equation a quadratic nd then solved for x
Guess how much of that i understood mate....
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Re: Mothership Cost and Tech Level Formula
zizi710 wrote:did u check it against one of the calculators out there?
I would have used Cost = (y/2(2a+(y-1)*10000)) - (x/2(2a+(x-1)*10000))
x being ur current capacity, y being desired and a being ur first cost.
a = 10000.. Although mines is a bit more complicated![]()
what equation u used for ur problem? i would have made ur equation a quadratic nd then solved for x
Well.... I figured out that each weapon bay costs 10,000 x The Number of the capacity. i.e. if you have 100, 101st weapon bay would cost 1,010,000 and so forth. I just looked some mathematics websites, and found that the formula/rule that takes a number and adds every number between 1 and itself to it. i.e. the my example would be 101+100+99.....+1. That was the first formula I gave.
Now, to work out how many bays you can buy with a given amount of Naq, you already know "x" - your current raw bays - and "c" - the amount of naq it will cost. So I needed "y". I could not, for the life of me, solve the first equstion for "y"; but I found an online equation solver, which returned this solution:
y=((SQRT(2)*SQRT(5000*(x squared)+5000x+c+1250)-50)/100)-x
That will tell me how many weapon bays can be purchased from my current bays "x" with a given amount of Naq "c".
For shields, the equation is:
((SQRT(15)*SQRT(6000*(x squared)+6000x+c+1250)-150)/300)-x
I've been tinkering on a spreadsheet, and have rigged up a system in which you enter only your current raw bays and tech level; and the sheet will show you whether you will get a better result buying the next tech level, or spending the equivalent Naq on raw slots.
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Re: Mothership Cost and Tech Level Formula
math is a beautiful thing..Could someone please give me some info regarding personels in ascended. I do not have sufficient data to formulate and equation. I'm guessing it is a Geometric sequence as there is distinctly no common difference..
Edit: Part above is for Vix..
ah yes thanks for that! i do understand how it managed to get the equation. My algebra is a bit screwed up
Try working on Ascended. Not many calculators offer help with ascended calculations.. add me on MSN : zizi710@live.com nd perhaps we could do it together
Edit: I got the Ascended!!!!!! Wasn't that difficult infact.. It's a geometric sequence therefore we're gona use Tn= ar(all raised to n-1).. i worked out r to be 1.0218.. this is a rounded off figure as the rest of the digits that follow seemed to have changed. a worked out to be 3282.133114 due to rounding off of r. When checking my calculation i was off by about 36140 Naq.. again it's the r thats causing that problem.. If someone could give me the EXACT amounts i would really appreciate it. If i can get the exact figures then i will work on the Sn formulae for working out totals when building Personels.
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Re: Mothership Cost and Tech Level Formula
I just keep pressing buy till i run out of naq, thats my formula. Works well enough. 
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Bullseye wrote:I just keep pressing buy till i run out of naq, thats my formula. Works well enough.
I like this formula it works for me...
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Re: Mothership Cost and Tech Level Formula
Bullseye wrote:I just keep pressing buy till i run out of naq, thats my formula. Works well enough.
You run out of naq?
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Re: Mothership Cost and Tech Level Formula
Duderanch wrote:Bullseye wrote:I just keep pressing buy till i run out of naq, thats my formula. Works well enough.
You run out of naq?
Rarely, if im about to run out, i increase my farming. So really no i never run out of naq. If there is war my vault is almost 1/2 full.

