Swearing: contains small use of masking as a way to prove a

[Kit-Fox]

[...]People would prefer not to have to hear it and not to have to have such meanings thrown at them (either original meanings or those now ascribed to the words by modern times)

Besides theres plenty of ways to say the same thing [...]

A pretty hypocritical stance to take, no? "Don't cuss at me because I don't like the meaning, but you can say the exact samething else-wise."

well yes it is, but you dont have to be insulting when using other words. You can say things that mean the same in essence but say it in a polite way at least.

Whereas swearing is always insulting & rude.

An example would be the word beginning with B that describes someone born out of wedlock. Such a term was used as a killing insult even back in the 16/17/18 hundreds. To say that it is just descriptive is to miss the whole point

[minisaiyan]

16/17/18 hundreds.

year is 2009. Why should we be tied by the ethics of two hundred + years ago?
I hammer something into a wall, i hit my thumb. I say a four letter word that comes out your ass... is there anything wrong with me saying that coz it's my way of showing emotion pain and annoyance at my idiocy?

[Kit-Fox]

The point you missed was that you classified that word as a descriptive word.

It isnt, the word was created to be an insult and has been used as an insult for centuries & continues to be used as such.

Of course people should feel insulted and annoyed when others used it about them.

Most of other so called 'swear' words are in the same boat, they were created as insults, so yeah people should be a bit miffed if those words are used against them

[Juliette]

Hey Kit! Going to reply to my witty remarks about the bow and arrow not being new in the 100 Years War?

[Kit-Fox]

Heh, it was what came to mind upon reading that passage & its hardly surprising given that i am a brit and i've heard it oft repeated over and over by many.

Fine whatever I am sure the eygptians werent all that nice to their enemies, but i wasnt going on about them now was i?

EDIT; and the english longbow was a new weapon round about then

[Jack]

Heh, it was what came to mind upon reading that passage & its hardly surprising given that i am a brit and i've heard it oft repeated over and over by many.

Fine whatever I am sure the eygptians werent all that nice to their enemies, but i wasnt going on about them now was i?

EDIT; and the english longbow was a new weapon round about then

The XM8 is a new assault rifle, does that mean that guns are new invention now?

well yes it is, but you dont have to be insulting when using other words. You can say things that mean the same in essence but say it in a polite way at least.

It's still the same damn thing, though.

Whereas swearing is always insulting & rude.

That is one person's opinion which is based on something that is extremely subjective(manners).

An example would be the word beginning with B that describes someone born out of wedlock. Such a term was used as a killing insult even back in the 16/17/18 hundreds. To say that it is just descriptive is to miss the whole point

Many words can and are insulting, even moreso than bastard, yet you suggested to use those words instead of bastard, so I ask you; what the hell is that you are arguing about? Do you even know? It seems to me that you just have some sort of phobia in regards to words that society deemed to be "evil" many years ago when they were burning "witches" and killing pagans.

[minisaiyan]

i think jacks hammer just hit the nail so hard on the head, it went through the wood with that last bit.

[Ashu]

When did we stop killing pagans?

Still...some words are better than others in regards to insults,whereas comparison and categorizing are the usual methods...i do think we can insult each other A LOT MORE with different things,harsh words never come in the form of something you know you aren't, but the truth that saddens more than anything else and which we hide well...

[Kit-Fox]

I am saying Jack that swearing is mostly pointless, its just an attempt to vent your anger at someone usually.

If you want to disagree with someone or object to what they are doing/saying whatever there are much different/better words that can be used that have essentially the same meaning and despite your feelings it just simply isnt the same its the difference between saying someone who rejects help when they need it is maladjusted/illinformed or saying that person is a jerk or (your choice of swear word here)

Its just that by using those other words you are at least objecting in a non insulting manner (ie less confrontational & agressive manner).

I am also pointing out that while some obviously consider some words that are considered as swear words as descriptive terms, the words were originally intended to be insults & not descriptive.

as for your whole xm8 arguement well that just stupid, the english longbow is a significantly different weapon in both build & use to a 'normal' bow. So yes it was a 'new' weapon & and yes it was completely different.

[Jack]

Whereas swearing is always insulting & rude.

Translation: You shouldn't swear because it's insulting and rude and you shouldn't be insulting and rude.

as for your whole xm8 arguement well that just stupid, the english longbow is a significantly different weapon in both build & use to a 'normal' bow. So yes it was a 'new' weapon & and yes it was completely different.

Way to destroy your own argument.

[Ashu]

as for your whole xm8 arguement well that just stupid, the english longbow is a significantly different weapon in both build & use to a 'normal' bow. So yes it was a 'new' weapon & and yes it was completely different.

NO NO NO and ... NO.

[Kit-Fox]

And yet it was done without swearing. Exaclty as I was saying was possible.

EDIT: I could have also used the word absurd, or inane or silly. any of those words would have got my sentiment over and yet none of them are swearing, just as the word stupid isnt swearing.

And please note I was calling your argument stupid, not you, there is a difference you know.

[Phoenix of Terra]

Phoenix Award of Character to Kit-Fox, for upholding civility on the forums, before throwing it on the ground and then claiming that hurling insults at someone's arguments and beliefs is better than swearing.

[papa~smurf]

Normally I don't use retard or anything like that,there's no reason why i should use less fortunate people in life to insult and idiot...

i fired some one the other day for calling some one a retard, the person was truly developmentally disabled that he called that

as it has been being said by me and others in many different threads, there are youngsters who use these forums

things are bad enough in the real world, do u really have to bring it here ?

i know the user of these forums are smart and clever enough to post smart with out masking or cursing

think about it ...............

[Ashu]

Normally I don't use retard or anything like that,there's no reason why i should use less fortunate people in life to insult and idiot...

i fired some one the other day for calling some one a retard, the person was truly developmentally disabled that he called that

as it has been being said by me and others in many different threads, there are youngsters who use these forums

things are bad enough in the real world, do u really have to bring it here ?

i know the user of these forums are smart and clever enough to post smart with out masking or cursing

think about it ...............

Then i apologize for bringing it up like that,i'll be more careful next time.Thank you for pointing it out!