GunZ wrote:The difference is that OE did not declare war on much smaller alliances for the specific purpose of domination. In all my time in OE, we had many,any wars, but most all were vs large Alliances /Empires. They were wars of purpose, not wars of choice.
Indeed there can be honor in a surrender , but there is no honor in surrendering to a bully, and I won't . This was a war I did not want , but was forced into . It is time for someone to refuse to be rolled over .
In this case there is more honor in fighting than surrendering -surrender proves nothing, continuing does.
I`m having a hard time differentiating purpose from choice here heh... you "chose" to slap some small people around, but not often so no biggie. You systematically persecuted those small people when they banded in larger entities to parry, mirror and via that seek security, and that`s ok since it was for the "purpose" of total domination.
Yea, you`re a real philantrophist heh... I`m sure the collection plate will come back full to the brink.
See, "fighting a bully" is a very subjective qualification... in wars you conducted in the style people now conduct on you, all viewed you as the bully...
And they told you pritty much the exact same things you now say, for you to show no understanding and insist on pritty much exactly what people now insist from you.
So no offence, but there is a heck of a lot of poetic justice in you having to deal with bebita, that is litterary a chip of the old GZ mentality block.
Welcome to the other side of the fence you (helped) put up.
And the trully funny thing is that you still look to differentiate yourself from everyone else. When you held the reigns your reasoning was the only valid one. When you lost them, that reasoing was still valid, yet its aplication to you is seemingly unjust for some reason and your resistance is somehow more noble than the resistance you encountered in your day.
You need to buck up and get as good as you gave, sans QQ. To the amusement of many, if I may add so myself. I usually root for the underdogs, but I find it that fat cats turn underdogs (with selective amnesia) just don`t hit the right sympathy spot in ye old ticker, if you know what I`m saying heh...
For Rome!
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Anyhoot..you harp on DDE going after alliances smaller than ourselves..GET BIGGER ole chum. In case you havent noticed DDE is large and in charge and not our fault ya'll cant muster any size to use..build and empire 2 x's our size but guess what...result will be the same because we simply dominate. 
BTW there is 24 inches of snow here and Im stuck indoors.
