FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)

[~Massin4Christ~]

Both sides argue that they have won, or say this in the game over war of the server... I would like to see who the community thinks has won this war.

Rules of the Thread:

One Post per person on the Thread! Stating the reasons they believe TTF won, FUALL won or it was a draw. ONE POST ONLY!!!

Moderators please enforce one post only rule!!!

[Byrnes]

Fuall
Because People are always surrendering in TTF
And qacol joined Fuall so that was a huge lose for TTF

[muffafuffin]

Id have to agree with byrnes and say fuall. They are always on the forum posting big hits or discussing wars. Seems like every other day now they are waging war or having a friendly go around with someone. They are always in game massing and farming (and for farming Bebita is a naq beast lol) and there numbers continue to grow ridiculously. TTF on the other hand doiesnt post nearly as much forum wise i dont see them expanding to other wars or doing massive recruiting. And i know the forums arent the game but they are a good listing of whats happening in the game. For TTF i dont even know most of the players where as fuall id probably recognize them all.

Bascially it just seems like i run into players like flash4, slayers, philemon, or bebita everywhere i go and on the other end of the spectrum im beggining to see less and less of the otherside.

seems only fair to say the side that grows during the war as fast as fuall does is beating the side whos spirit continues to dwindle.

[Tropic Thunder]

Neither.

[~Insider Trader~]

Neither.

If it takes a year and a half to find a winner then it is likely that the casulties on both sides exceeded any victory.

The winners are likely to be the individuals on both sides who didn't take it so seriously and have moved on. The rest will continue endlessly fighting for whatever meaningless reason they alone believe to be important.

[buck]

Victory cannot be achieved by avoiding loss.

No side can win outright unless the other surrenders, FUALL are probally winning it on Hits, Activity, Growth and determination, But TTF dont surrender, therefor victory cannot be claimed.

[bebita]

Victory cannot be achieved by avoiding loss.

No side can win outright unless the other surrenders, FUALL are probally winning it on Hits, Activity, Growth and determination, But TTF dont surrender, therefor victory cannot be claimed.

true but is better for fuall
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=115254
and for who will winn
try to read first post and remember who was out numbered at begin of the war
fuall will winn
draw doesn't exists
if will take 5 years 10 years if all outsider will quit
doesn't matters
so MFC war is not over someone to won the war
but fuall have a big advantage in this moment and i doubt ttf can come from back to recover

[MEZZANINE]

FUALL probably has the upper hand in numbers of the strongest accounts and certainly has better organisation, but the only way for anyone to win outright is the break the enemies will to fight on, or make peace a better option than war. The wills of the hardcore players on both sides will never be broken, and the point about making peace more attractive than war raises another question,

If one side was to admit defeat, what would it mean ?

1) Another 1 year peace treaty while both sides beat up small players and preparing to fight again when the treaty ends ? That didnt work well out last time.

2) For all to be allied and dominate, driving all opposition from the game ? Then what would the point in playing be ?

3) For the loser to be farmed and random massed forever, while unable to retaliate without fear of it all starting again ? Again why would anyone want to play a game that way

I see the only acceptable way to end the server war being for the empires to disband and individual alliance to stand alone, win and lose individual wars on their own merits and members. Sadly I dont think this will ever happen, the worthy warriors would probably go for it but the power hungry leaders and cannon fodder tag hiders wouldnt want to let go of what they have.

Just my opinion, others will vary and propaganda from the 2 sides will taint most posts.

[Lithium]

first the statement is set wrong , coz the war isnt over. second FUALL started the war so for them wining is a must and its not the first time they publish fake claims , the last was the ETL thread.
MFC is an old player as far as i rem and he knows better then me that the old warmonger of these two coalitions, who started the war, have already quit by 90%., which make a win somehow.

@muffafuffin maybe ya reading only spam, many players i know dont even post anymore in this forum due to "certain" moding, u can see it clearly how the Role Play thered is spammed daily. my self got 7 warnings in less then 40 days last year , resulted in banning from forums for months. cleared up on new admins management.
we dont strike other alliances for fun but if u are curious u can appear in our alliance logs for fun.


none by outside can have an accurate view of whats going on ingame.

[Neimenljivi]

Neither side as a whole hasn't won, those individuals that got something beside resources from the war are winners.

I'd also like to say that forum posting and familiar names aren't the criteria for winning or losing.
About making other wars..All I can say is that it's just pathetic when you attack someone for no reason at all. Oh no wait, that reason is excessive farming (1 hit per month) and that the other alliance has stats and you don't, thus you have nothing to lose..

~N

[~Massin4Christ~]

Both TTF and FUALL have had there bad days, there extortionist days... Im not saying everyone on either side had there evil days. Blahh, Zesh, Zeb, Huntalaar, Svarun, were people that I wanted gone to fade away from the game. They tried ruling the game in absolute fear, lies, propaganda and would use you in every way that they could. That is the reason I joined FUALL period! I wanted to eventually be on the side that made them leave. No-one could be a lone wolf with them around they'd make a promise one day not to hit you and the next day they would have massed you or farmed you for no profit. From the COP days to these times the evil side has changed to nicer side. The anti-cop leaders changed into a empire that wanted to rule, which they fought against. Both sides have knocked and defeated the corruption and unnoble people out. I see the war as a win for both sides.

[R8]

i see this as no win no surrender for either side. a mutual agreement of somekind maybe the only way to end it.

on a side note i dont think the people not directly involved actually know wat it is like ingame. the forums well you can say what you want on here wats actually going on is different.

[dazman]

i see this as no win no surrender for either side. a mutual agreement of somekind maybe the only way to end it.

on a side note i dont think the people not directly involved actually know wat it is like ingame. the forums well you can say what you want on here wats actually going on is different.

I agree. This so called war is pointless now. neither side will give in. It's a never ending war. There is no way to actually destroy anyone, unlike in real life, therefore this is not a war. It's a game.

TTF have fought hard, but as a whole FUALL has fought harder.

[JediMasterX]

FUALL

But not by much

- FUALL is steadily REbuilding and getting bigger.
-They got IMO the best player from TTF and that was Qacol.
- Lots of great members in TTF have quit such as Blahh and Zesh
- A lot of TLE is just PPTing, not doing much. If my memory is correct they were the cause of this war
- No one in TTF has a planet with a defence worth mentioning or even a planet worth mentioning really. FUALL is buying duals and boosting their planets up
- TTF has a handful of key players and half of those still don't do much

TTF's pros and cons

- FUALL has lost a lot of great players
- They have farms to keep themselves able to mass
- They don't build anything
- They hardly mass anything


Needless to say both sides have lost a lot of great players that can not be replaced by any number of killed supers, stolen naq or UU. However when you don't build anything and you're only activity for SGW is login and PPT and bank while the other sides builds up and you save up for months to mass one or two people, its not really a war anymore. If anything FUALL is barely winning and that is just because most of TTF is inactive or not doing anything.

[RoKeT]

FUALL has won... i still get massed sometimes i won't lie lol, it's not like TTF has lost, thats my opinion, TTF hasn't lost, just FUALL has won... if that makes any sense at all