Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

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Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

I can understand waiting two weeks for those measly ascension requirements before when there were only 10 ascension levels, but now that there are 23... and possibly 25, it takes a year to fully ascend a new account. The new requirements to ascend actually require people to come off PPT to gather resources, unlike before where you could just sit on your turn income and UP to generate what you needed for each ascension. If a person somehow pulls off all the resources needed to ascend, yes it could take only two months to ascend... but that's very doubtful. I suppose it's possible that an alliance could do all the resource gathering for someone to fully ascend as well... but in this day and age, people need to gather their own resources, just to keep their accounts up to speed with everyone else's.

I think that wait to fully ascend is what's turning a lot of people off from this game... and removing that wait time could possibly bring back some old players. It's monotonous and boring.

Is it unfair to those that had to wait? A little... people still need to gather the resources to ascend and get the G&R to do it.

The two-week wait is just prolonging the inevitable. Most people already have the G&R well before the two-week wait. Just let me ascend and get it over with...
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

NO,

Everyone else who has ascended to 23 ascensions where stuck with the 14 day waiting period, why should it be changed now.

Your comment just shows that people want an easy ride to the top, if it was less than 14 days, say 7 you could easily stay on PPT throughout a strong enough alliance could easily fund someone threw every ascension.

So just wait the 14 days, and make it actually something you work towards instead of being it handed like everything else in this game.
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

GeneralChaos wrote:So just wait the 14 days, and make it actually something you work towards instead of being it handed like everything else in this game.

So please explain to me how waiting is working? The work is in the gathering of resources and gaining the G&R... not the waiting and waiting and waiting to be able to click that ascend button.

I think I'll try to use that on my next boss. I've fulfilled my quota for the next two weeks, but I'm gonna sit here for the rest of the two weeks and do nothing.

The 220T+ naq for just the minimum UP requirements and 200m+ UU needed to ascend from AG to the 23rd ascension is the work... that doesn't include the resources necessary to get yourself into 5G&R range.

FYI... I'm pretty sure that you will be very hard pressed to find someone outside of FUALL that works as hard on their account as I do in the relatively short time I've been back... and nothing about what I've done has been easy at all.
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

no. 2weeks is fine.
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

If the person is smart about it, they can gather all the resources they need to ascend before they ascend. I certainly had most of the resources I needed to ascend before I left from LG+1 to Unknown. As you say it's 200m UU (easily gathered with a little raiding and or farming then buying UU. And by easily I mean maybe 1 month of farming.) Naq for UPs, is a bit more bothersome 'cos you have to find someone you trust to hold it, but is again doable.

Then if there was no wait, you'd have people on PPT 24/7 for 72 days (that's ascending from LG+1 to Unknown getting into 5 glory range each time).

The wait is required I think 1. to make people come off PPT, soemthing you say would happen anyway but I don't think so, and 2. so that people learn patience. You aren't meant to join up and ahve everything handed to you.
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

If memory serves, it was because of the PPT exploit that the 2 week wait was put into place.

If your proposing to remove it, then your going to need to also propose a detailed way of stopping people from exploiting that.

And no, saying that the amount of resources that higher ascending requires is not going to be sufficient.



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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

TacticalCommander wrote:If memory serves, it was because of the PPT exploit that the 2 week wait was put into place.

If your proposing to remove it, then your going to need to also propose a detailed way of stopping people from exploiting that.

And no, saying that the amount of resources that higher ascending requires is not going to be sufficient.



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It was introduced because some "dirty resource creators" were using an exploit to create resources out of thin air, they then ascended accounts back to back. It was not a PPT exploit that created the 2 week wait.
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

Tekki wrote:If the person is smart about it, they can gather all the resources they need to ascend before they ascend. I certainly had most of the resources I needed to ascend before I left from LG+1 to Unknown. As you say it's 200m UU (easily gathered with a little raiding and or farming then buying UU. And by easily I mean maybe 1 month of farming.) Naq for UPs, is a bit more bothersome 'cos you have to find someone you trust to hold it, but is again doable.

Then if there was no wait, you'd have people on PPT 24/7 for 72 days (that's ascending from LG+1 to Unknown getting into 5 glory range each time).

The wait is required I think 1. to make people come off PPT, soemthing you say would happen anyway but I don't think so, and 2. so that people learn patience. You aren't meant to join up and ahve everything handed to you.


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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

yes?
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

Ive been ascending every 2 weeks with the exception of when im waring a worthy proponent, then my naq gose to fighting, But i still farm the naq for each ascension In the 2 week period between the ascensions, and the UU to keep my account descent size when possible

All you would do is make it harder for some one like me ,Who dosent have any cash at to drop inot his account, Compete, cash everyone with some spare cash they can spend on the game would be at the top ascension
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

i would not be very objective if i said remove the wait cuz i started ascending...

but maybe remove the wait, but don't allow uninterrupted ppt.?
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

i started from bottom and am now an AG lol by monday i will be watever is next HAHAHAHHA but seriously i am as impatient as the next guy, but i like the two weeks it allows the older dogs to have there time to shine they've earned it i've only been here a year lol darn tootin i should wait to get to wat they have done for 5 times aslong as i've done for 1 lol how would that be fair at all if i didn't wait?
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

As much as I don't like the 2 week wait, I still have to support it. Gathering resources is not much of a problem.

With the cost of ATs these days, anyone with 10 multies (with SS) can get 25k ats per week. Which can be sold for ~13.75tril naq. In 10 weeks, they would have enough naq to ascend from Prior to UnKnown, and use a mixture of naq production, UP, and $$$ to acqure the uu. In 10 weeks, an account going to UnKnown, which they can sell for $$$ for, what ~>$1k? Or sell for ingame resources and then sell for $$$.


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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

i don't mind if the wait is removed, AS LONG AS there is no option to carry resources beetwen ascensions. no brokers, no gifts for the first 14 days after ascension.
then people really have to rebuild their account to 5 G&R range every time.
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Re: Remove the 2-week wait between ascensions...

No.
People who do the two weeks PPT and have enough big account income/army and money to spend could get rank 1 by buying big amount of naq in the start then do try to get rank 1 by farming lots to get big MS and attack planets to get easy rank from them, remain on PPT and buy only AC level up to 33 and train up to rank 1 AC, and do again on every ascension. It would then require less than three days between ascensions. Sure you would have to be quite rich to achieve that quickly, but it's not impossible anyway.
Even with 5 G&R, you make about 240 G&R per day. So you need 5 days to have 1k G&R. If there was no limit, people could ascend within less than a week. Then buy naq for $$ for each ascension and due to massive starting army size (350mil let's say), not suffer from said ascensions much (as afterall uu are cheap nowadays).
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