Whats Destroying the Game

[Sarevok]

an update that would benefit the game in the long run, is one that modifies the AT availability significantly, and improves living conditions for the unascended... perhaps also for the first few levels of ascension, remove the time limits between ascensions... but do not remove them from the higher levels (6th+)...

I tried to develop that idea in the suggestions section, but no one wants people to be able to compete unless they ascend. Even if it does take similar resources.
Seriously, what would people be more afraid of... someone getting their attack/defense doubled 50% of the time. Or an Asgard hologram, preventing ANY damage. Or the Tauri being able to mass, and only take losses like 2/3 of the time. I personally would love to be able to play with an un-ascended account, but with the ascendeds getting +50% on EVERY stat, and i'd just get +25% on 1 stat, it's not worth it.

Regarding the ascensions, i would say the first 6 have no time limit. The next 9, 7 days and the last 9, 14 days

[Zeratul]

FORUMS
save the best for last
lets get right to the point the mods are killing the forums and when they die the game will die and they are doing it faster then any changes jason might every do just keep going on the path of i am god and what i say is right

in what way do you mean this?

[Legendary Apophis]

this game has always been a three part game they are the following.

ASSENDED
has been turned in to a snipeing game no way to really play anymore unless you are there to destroy everybodies hard work and accounts..
there use to be people who played on main to boost there assended acoounts now a assensions on main doesnt give you more then one turn worth of resourses...i could say more but all really know

MAIN GAME
i have spent atleast 4 years on building this account i turned the key on this account . we never pptd, i used every trade for lifers i remmeber saveing for months to get my first ms .back then there was a unwriten amount of defffence to have per your income .wars we putt all on the line we sold uu for weapons to fight we had nothing left when done we used months of growth to win or loose ..you had to log on at least three or four times a day to bank and train ..we had the bad guys back then who spent the so called dollar they tried to get you to pay for protection ..thoose people have gone or faded away the few of us keeped building and growing untill we could gain revenge so they could no longer play as they where .and to day where are we some have grown enough they can stand against thoose who where bullies and now they make peace with you and recruit you and you become what they are doing the same to others and as for the new player what took me years to gain they can get within 4 to 5 months and have a account to war with how many of you have taken a new player in and given millions of uu and bil of naq just to have them leave when they felt you where not giveing them enough ..heck and someone said make it more exspensive to assend i am at the point every two weeks i have to buy resourses to assend the cost is getting high .but its the only way to keep up anymore ...now most spend 4 days a week on ppt to save and build not much playing anymore the other three days they get raped and if they fight back they get massed.so what can jason do not much .there is so much more that can be said about main but i will stop here

FORUMS
save the best for last
lets get right to the point the mods are killing the forums and when they die the game will die and they are doing it faster then any changes jason might every do just keep going on the path of i am god and what i say is right

I agree more or less for main sgw part, but not really for forums...it's most of times (not all the times, I know) the users who start troubles and get themselves warned. Now indeed, mods sometimes act wrongly, but I think users do it more often than mods.

[Rabbid Thom]

jason has aimed this game towards the spending of $$s now look at what you can't get for $$ from the black market an account no doubt he'll eventually put in that you can buy ascetion lvls or even accounts ascended to a certain lvl

the game isn't looked after anywhere near enough or as it used to be.

he updated what we wanted now he won't because he wants us to spend money on the game and hard as it's to say in the next 3 years the community will be at least half what it is today and you'll have to spend $$ to defend yourself

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[Brythalious]

I think cash is an issue, but has been said many times, though is very annoying to fight players who **Filtered** on the GC about you not doing enough/building enough when they have their nice duels $$ spent giving them 1 trill def for 3 supers (gross exaggeration I know but hey feels like it) but then thats also down to those players too, what about those who do spend some or lots of $$ and don't act like clowns. I personally don't like planets so I dont bother doing much more than keeping what I find..... which is much more amusing when people planet strip me... Hope that was worth it cause they are all rubbish planets.

Updates, sure need some maybe but what ones? What will work and what wont, updates for the sake of it is wrong but then there are plenty to choose from and plenty of time to sort it, Ascension needs fixing, I dont care what happens to my ascension account I built it to be hard to descend and now I wast my DMU on my lovely waste of Space (Command Star) which also utterly suck and are pointless. They should come with a warning to newbie lone wolves, "dont buy this"

ME hunters, well that was bound to happen but then some did that anyway, lets face it the community hasnt changed that much, or are we all a bunch of old men and women just sitting about moaning how it used to be, we want updates then moan they are the wrong ones.

And on Sempers note about changing ascended and people not wanting their accounts lost in favour of progression, sorry mate I guess people have worked hard on them and spent a lot of their ingame resources to do it, if they are to change, Compensate them as it always seems to be those who have worked hardest lose out. Then years down the line people are saying, 1.5 months is too long to get competitive..... sure as hell took longer before so would these youngsters quiet up.

A old man signing out. or maybe falling down..... where's my teeth?

[jedi~tank]

What is killing this game? Lack of attention from it's owner, and the only person who can truly benefit this game with more advertisement and upgrades/updates.

What is killing the in-game? People who are ME hunting, ruining it for new comers rather than teaching them.

What is killing it on the forum? Not much anymore since the war ended. Yipee!

I like the idea of the ascended way to attack, you have to be within a % to do it.

[[SlayerS_fith]]

i think there has to be a way to make wars /empire wars winable.

2ndly Ascended shoudl once more be updated to make it more apart of main.
otherwise its a waste of time.

[Sarevok]

What is killing this game? Lack of attention from it's owner, and the only person who can truly benefit this game with more advertisement and upgrades/updates.

What is killing the in-game? People who are ME hunting, ruining it for new comers rather than teaching them.

What is killing it on the forum? Not much anymore since the war ended. Yipee!

I like the idea of the ascended way to attack, you have to be within a % to do it.

It won't work with main unfortunately.

Thanks to the market, you can easily buy/sell the resources you need, to get to whom you want to get after. Especially once they pass the raid cap.

Take for example, someone whom is 300mUU, and someone whom is 1/6 being 50m UU. They can spend 5T to get the UU to mass the people whom is 300mUU, then they can sell them off again, and go back to 50mUU, thus disableing the 300mUU person from being able to attack easily. They can sell UU sure, but the only way to return to whence they came, is to raid again.

[RepliMagni]

I think JT meant your def has to be within a certain percentage of your attack.....at least that's how I'm going to interpret it.....cos its a good idea. Just like we have mercs linked to how many supers you have.....make it so you have to have say 25% of your attack as def....ie: 5tril strike, then means you need a 1tril def....etc.

Anyways, there's loads of different suggestions knocking around in the game suggestions area.....being able to kill a % of miners per day; having attack and def linked in some way; limiting the amount of ATs; reducing the power of MSs;....the list goes on and on.

Trouble is, Jason hasn't done a large update in how long?

[Angnoch]

we heard that a year ago...

[semper]

And on Sempers note about changing ascended and people not wanting their accounts lost in favour of progression, sorry mate I guess people have worked hard on them and spent a lot of their ingame resources to do it, if they are to change, Compensate them as it always seems to be those who have worked hardest lose out.

I think that's a load of bull tbh Bryth. Ascension is by no means a lot of work.. it's a lot of time.. but time and work are very different things. I spend a lot of time watching TV at some points... but it doesn't mean it's a great deal of work no matter how much I struggle to make up for the lost time that I waste watching and then reading up on said TV programmes specific universe.

Add to that the fact the game is absolutely bursting with resources... so you can't say 'gathering the resources' is where the work comes in. I havn't farmed since 2005, I had a go the week before last and was raking in 2-3trill a day pure profit and maintaining a rank? Cheap as cheaps and easy as 1,2,3.

Fact of the matter is and I have said it for the past few years... there is absolutely no possible update that's going to fix main without one group of people suffering and this mind set of thiking "well I need compensation because I CHOSE to put a lot of time into a certain aspect" is definitely something that's wrong with the game. I certainly hope that when this game is going down the pan and shuts off you're all ready to realise that that old chestnutt isn't going to pay the bills or employ the coder.

Greater Good people... but it won't happen until comments like Master Pendragons here are fading history - FACT.

[Sarevok]

Trouble is, Jason hasn't done a large update in how long?

supposed to be one relatively soon

"Aug/Sept 2008 Large Update" lol
OR
Dec 2008 Mothership Damage Update

yeh, all the '09 updates are minor.
*Defense tweek
*Duals on the BM
*Max ascensions (not hard at all, just extrapolate what was already there)
*Race change (Maybe large, but was never really planned, so hardly a thought out update)
*Find your taken planet

If we don't get an update by end of March, chances are, any update after that is just a crowd pleaser, and won't build on the game

[[KMA]Avenger]

you guys have it all arse backwards...

Bahamut leaving killed the game!

[Lithium]

to have an answer to Whats destroying the Game then start asking yr self: what brought u here? a Friend? a web search for Stargate 1, the role play?

so since the show is over no more new members, only some that returns just for a month or a few.
most of our Friends have already left so less we are even less might join.
also the role play was kicked hard first by the last updates when we abandoned old basic races , so game isnt anymore related straight to them.

also we do kill it aswell , we dont play by an ethic code

[[KMA]Avenger]

ethics?

ethics has and never will be a part of MMORPG.

what's killed the game seriously?!

1, as MANY have been pointing out for 3+ years, resources are to readily available.

2, without doubt the worst update EVER...raiding.

3, second worst update, planets.

4, people whining, winging, moaning, **Filtered**, crying, people sending nasty and downright evil PM's and all round complaining just because they lost a few stats.

5, the switch from "Stargate Wars" to "anybody can be whatever the hell they like wars".

i could go and on but there is very little point since all this has been discussed to death already.