Multi's

[[SlayerS_fith]]

odin pointed it out to me today in the attack logs b4 i had a chance to scan them

All of these accounts have 3 army size and have ms's.
each one hit MFC today stealing a planet.
here is a list of the id's.

rakulac: 1975236
muuuuuuu: 1975237
santa lui 1975238
mariojunior 1975239
mujtd: 1975240
mujokzuf: 1975242
bubble12: 1975243


Note i just watched the accounts hit each other and 3 just abandoned mfc planets.
at GameTime: Mar19 - 21:01.01

i hope something can be done.

[~Massin4Christ~]

21:04 mujokzuf Delta lost
15 0 854 2,331,420,000 2,525,250,000 details
21:04 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 86 2,679,000,000 2,608,500,000 details
21:04 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 85 3,044,250,000 2,553,000,000 details
21:03 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 83 3,091,320,000 2,497,500,000 details
21:03 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 93 3,566,970,000 2,802,750,000 details
21:03 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 86 3,552,120,000 2,580,750,000 details
21:02 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 91 3,968,640,000 2,747,250,000 details
21:02 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 85 4,125,660,000 2,553,000,000 details
21:02 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 83 4,638,000,000 2,497,500,000 details
21:01 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 86 4,798,080,000 2,608,500,000 details
21:01 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 86 4,844,760,000 2,580,750,000 details
21:01 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 84 4,919,460,000 2,525,250,000 details
21:00 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 71 5,619,000,000 2,153,691,000 details
21:00 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 94 5,546,940,000 2,830,500,000 details
21:00 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 90 5,677,320,000 2,719,500,000 details
20:59 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 188 6,582,060,000 2,830,500,000 details
20:59 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 89 6,585,600,000 2,691,750,000 details
20:59 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 85 6,905,250,000 2,553,000,000 details
20:58 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 86 6,799,020,000 2,608,500,000 details
20:58 mujokzuf Attack defended 15 0 88 7,272,090,000 2,664,000,000 details
20:54 bubble12 Alpha lost
15 0 0 3 555,000,000 details
20:41 mujtd Sorry not joining alliances lost
15 0 0 3 4,995,000 details
20:36 mariojunior Zeta lost
15 0 0 3 52,170,000 details
20:23 santa lui Gamma lost
15 0 0 3 5,272,500 details
20:20 muuuuuuu Georgia7 lost
15 0 0 3 5,383,500 details
20:08 rakulac Oraagon lost
15 0 0 3 47,932,000 details


That is so wrong, its multies! Admins can you fix this?

I did lose my farms today my setting neutral on accident and I reset war so id say i made one very mad...

Also massed four of The Magnificents recently and BenjaminMS(1957053)

BenjaminMS I doubt would do that though...

Also if you find out the true account behind this I want his name and alliance pm'd to me mark...

[Dubby_CompGamerGeek2]

I googled the account names for anything interesting...

mariojunior and santa lui both showed up on the top of the search results as facebook members...

I didn't really look around their FB accounts... I might later.

the account names in general showed origins in a variety of languages...
and there was no apparent connection...
except for the two with common names on facebook.

I know we have had our differences over M4C's actions recently,
but all of The Mags sincerely hope you find out who is behind this.

Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

Sincerely,
Dublin Warrior
Associate Diplomat of The Magnificents Alliance

P.S.
I am curious... what the fleet strength of the accounts were...

Would you or M4C be willing to send me a private message with that information...

Specifically, I'm curious as to whether these were likely built overnight,
or whether they had many thousands of fleets upon them...

but I also don't want to infer information on M4C's planet defenses on the open forums, even though I assume he is upping his defenses / platforms on his remaining planets...

I'd also be interested in whether the multis took the best planets, or the crummy ones... (assuming there is a difference...)
because it would indicate their master's level of sophistication / thinking / planning... and some of their intent... to be a thorn for a moment, or a royal POS.

and yeah, I totally understand if you're not prepared to divulge that stuff...

[~Massin4Christ~]

I googled the account names for anything interesting...

mariojunior and santa lui both showed up on the top of the search results as facebook members...

I didn't really look around their FB accounts... I might later.

the account names in general showed origins in a variety of languages...
and there was no apparent connection...
except for the two with common names on facebook.

I know we have had our differences over M4C's actions recently,
but all of The Mags sincerely hope you find out who is behind this.

Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

Sincerely,
Dublin Warrior
Associate Diplomat of The Magnificents Alliance

P.S.
I am curious... what the fleet strength of the accounts were...

Would you or M4C be willing to send me a private message with that information...

Specifically, I'm curious as to whether these were likely built overnight,
or whether they had many thousands of fleets upon them...

but I also don't want to infer information on M4C's planet defenses on the open forums, even though I assume he is upping his defenses / platforms on his remaining planets...

I'd also be interested in whether the multis took the best planets, or the crummy ones... (assuming there is a difference...)
because it would indicate their master's level of sophistication / thinking / planning... and some of their intent... to be a thorn for a moment, or a royal POS.

and yeah, I totally understand if you're not prepared to divulge that stuff...

Attack logs are above, I hope TM isnt behind this.. As if they are they have already been punished this week!

[[SlayerS_fith]]

well basicly MFC planets where ALL good.
regardless of how built the fleets are they have 3 army size. their ability to afford such things is nill. some1 built them up. and once i find out who they are.
there will be ALOT of massing to be had.
So who ever you are.
you.
your friends
your officers
your Alliances
All ties u have will hunted down and sat on personaly by myself and MFC.
and im sure others will help.
Those who aid Cheaters and Scammers wont come out of this laughing.
im going to message admin.

[Ra]

*Grabs pitchfork*

Lets find us some witches.. I mean the conspirators who stole MFC's planets.

[Dubby_CompGamerGeek2]

lol... if it's related to TM...
we'll save you the trouble,
but I highly doubt it will be.

[Dubby_CompGamerGeek2]

well basicly MFC planets where ALL good.
regardless of how built the fleets are they have 3 army size. their ability to afford such things is nill. some1 built them up. and once i find out who they are.
there will be ALOT of massing to be had.
So who ever you are.
you.
your friends
your officers
your Alliances
All ties u have will hunted down and sat on personaly by myself and MFC.
and im sure others will help.
Those who aid Cheaters and Scammers wont come out of this laughing.
im going to message admin.

oh, I agree totally...

I just find it interesting that there wasn't like... 150k fleets involved...
that'd be too rich for most people's blood... including mine.

to be honest, we don't even have a recon report of M4C in our war room yet...

I'm gonna direct our members to this thread to swear on all that is good and sacred that they had nothing to do with this... no knowledge, nothing.

I'll go first:
I, Dubby, (Paul J. Reimringer) swear on all that is good and sacred that I had nothing to do with this.
I also swear I would have warned M4C, and that I would have reported it to the Game Admins if I had any idea that it was going to happen.

[Kaps1]

I know this happened to Qacol for a UP planets as well yesterday

I'll offer massing assistance and cheap at to do it!

[Dubby_CompGamerGeek2]

well, that makes me feel a lot better... to be quite honest...

I think his strike is too big or something,
because he doesn't bother The Magnificents,
and we don't bother him.

[Korruption]

alliances will be sat on for this

[Dubby_CompGamerGeek2]

I think the quick solution is disabling planet thefts until the guilty can be identified, sat-on, banned, perma-banned, IP-banned... did I miss any?

I'd be interested in where the non-abandoned planets end up...

though I can't imagine many people able to multi effectively like this would be that stupid to rip the planets off...

I'm curious again...
Did anyone in particular have a significant hatred or anger toward both Qacol and M4C?

[[BoT] Jason]

Did anyone in particular have a significant hatred or anger toward both Qacol and M4C?

anyone they massed. so half the server war and half the rest of the server

[Dubby_CompGamerGeek2]

lol

I mean the sort of people who start swearing uncontrollably at any given opportunity...

the kind of people,
where the other people who merely dislike these two FUALL players,
have to hold down the real haters... and get them professional help... lol


But I digress... as have I realized there is much more interesting point about all of this:

with the fleets necessary to take the meager defenses of the planets that were taken off of Massin4Christ...

even a noob Incarnate like myself doesn't need "real multis" to planet strip a person who has ticked me off...

I have lots of friends who could spy most planets... plus my own covert...

I have at least 3 friends who have already quit SGW...
(either they don't give a damn about their accounts,
or they have already deleted and could make legit new ones...)

I can easily find 5 - 10 noobs with two-week-old accounts, who do play...

I farm 1 trillion naquadah or better every day that I have:
time, Attack Turns, and I am not on PPT...
easily 4 - 5 trillion per week...
on zero defense farms even those two-week-old noobs can hit...

I can convince my 3 friends who have quit to build a temporary account for a week...
(my 3 friends could be easily bribed for $5 a piece, free food,
or just plain lots of begging / promises of vengeance on big massers...)

I can have my friends or noobs build slots to take the crummy defenses
with my naq... or my farms... and give them ATs to work with...

I can have the noobs and / or friends delete their accounts after the fact,
permanently taking my targets' planets with them...

and rebuild the noobs with new accounts with my naq after swearing them to secrecy...
which may or may not actually stay secret... but meh...

If I wanted to do so badly enough,
I could probably take 30 planets or more,
with equally low defenses inside a week spending less than $20 on ATs and other resources...
(mostly my time and energy...)

I'd have to be ready to build at least one of my friends / noobs accounts to massive slots,

if I wanted to successfully deal with the distinct possibility of defensive platforms...
but I don't even have to pay to build the massive slots on anyone else's mothership until I encounter such platforms...

or at all... as long as the other planets have relatively low defenses like the ones cited above in Massing4Christ's logs...

point being:
no smart person, let alone a decent one... needs to use illegal tactics to take those 7 planets in one day...

yes, there is the risk that eventually the noobs will talk...

but IP addresses and other records also talk...

and best of all, if someone did it properly, Jason wouldn't have any *legitimate* reason to restore the planets to the original owner(s).

so the person in question is either not very smart, has absolutely no friends... or both...



(Any mod is welcome to split this if they so choose... please link back here for reference.)

[[SlayerS_fith]]

well with the beta server reset i scanned for the ids.
so they where made last night or the day b4.