Israel... what do you think?

[[KMA]Avenger]

that's not really elaborating on what you meant by "sad".


it was obvious as i wrote that post that most if not all would completely disagree with me...thats fine, i have no problem with that at all, this is after all the "intelligent" section and while some of my posts in this section are posted in a passionate way i do try to be "intelligent" as much as my intellect allows.



anyways, as i've said, what is it you find sad? its obvious you find some of the replies in this thread sad...is that all? does the situation in Israel make you sad? if so, what do you find sad about it? hence me asking you to elaborate.

[~Invisible fox~]

your not going to get through to him
ofc hitchkoks parents/grandparents didnt tell him of the atrocities that happened as isreal gained independence.
ofc the isreali media wouldnt portray images of tanks going through occupied schools killing hundreds of children, or of the isreali army shooting british journalists recording such acts.

ouhh really Sir?
in the last 10 years all north area of Isreal and (afterword his south aswell) has been attacked by missile ..
whene the parnts wasnt sure (and still they'r not sure) thier kids will return or they may not ? those pictures arnt in your news ?
"those school" hide terrorists , they were no innocent..
now do u expect some one to wait untill they'll freely go out from the school & giveing up of trying to kill handreds of ppls?
where were u whene there was terrorist attack every singel day,,for years..



as for you dear KMA

you read 9 pages of this thread and "a bit sad" is all you have to say?

well... no..
i didnt read it all.. from what i've been reading randomly it seems like some ppls badly wrong.. and yes.. its sad .

now i just read must of this topic
Hitchkok & JT .. i can see this topic is in good hands.. your great..much better then me.
i have zero patience to explain obvious things only cause some one insist of not seeing it .

[[KMA]Avenger]

meh!

you don't seem to understand what i am asking...

you said "its sad", i asked "what's sad?"

you still haven't explained what you meant by your first statement of "its sad"...

doesn't matter. move on.

[~Invisible fox~]

meh!

you don't seem to understand what i am asking...

you said "its sad", i asked "what's sad?"

you still haven't explained what you meant by your first statement of "its sad"...

doesn't matter. move on.

thats sad you know nothing & u pretend like u do.. and even being rude enough to post. what so hard to understand?
u shouldnt post untill you'll be truthfull with your self.. btw your profile is rather funny

[~Desert Phantom~]

ok i will post here and make it simple...

can any nation let alone palestinians or jews lay rightful claim to any land??
my answer is no

throughtout this thread i could only think of 1 quote
"History is written by the victors"

so is history correct???...none here can say, sure we can read books and look at wiki but in the end any post made is just an opinion

some say the israelis are commiting genocide and human atrocities, some may call it defending thetr borders...ill guarantee this if any country tried attacking the U.S. i would do my best defending my country...would you call that genocide???

[moses]

ok i will post here and make it simple...

can any nation let alone palestinians or jews lay rightful claim to any land??
my answer is no

throughtout this thread i could only think of 1 quote
"History is written by the victors"

so is history correct???...none here can say, sure we can read books and look at wiki but in the end any post made is just an opinion

some say the israelis are commiting genocide and human atrocities, some may call it defending thetr borders...ill guarantee this if any country tried attacking the U.S. i would do my best defending my country...would you call that genocide???

yup couse the states would just push a few buttons and watch all the pretty lights

[[KMA]Avenger]

meh!

you don't seem to understand what i am asking...

you said "its sad", i asked "what's sad?"

you still haven't explained what you meant by your first statement of "its sad"...

doesn't matter. move on.

thats sad you know nothing & u pretend like u do.. and even being rude enough to post. what so hard to understand?
u shouldnt post untill you'll be truthfull with your self.. btw your profile is rather funny

as i have told others on more than a few occasions...dont take me for a fool.

you don't know what i know, you don't know how i learned what i know, let alone say i know nothing.

i don't pretend to know anything, i don't have to pretend anything at all. i am not some kid trying to look big and bad, ego for me means absolutely nothing, and i have absolutely nothing to gain by posting in this part of the forum so don't presume to judge me or presume to know anything about me. i am not some gullible fool who believes anything without checking, rechecking and triple checking from as many sources as i can find. if i post something and i say its the truth you can bet your life its as close to the truth as is possible, and if you don't like what i post, then prove me wrong or at least have the decency to post with honesty yourself.


now that's out of the way...

history is indeed written by the victors, however, the victors cannot erase historical records unearthed by archaeologists that have been verified by historians, and the history record clearly shows the Canaanite people lived in that part of the region first...

OH and 1 more thing, ever heard of a Jewish professor called Joseph Yahuda?

if not, then i suggest you find out!!!

[~Invisible fox~]

dear Kma..:]
i have my reasons to quite posing over this topic.
if u feel like haveing real talk about it .. try msn or Pm & i'll love to disscuse all the rest there..

[Hitchkok]

history is indeed written by the victors, however, the victors cannot erase historical records unearthed by archaeologists that have been verified by historians, and the history record clearly shows the Canaanite people lived in that part of the region first...

just gotta love the way you keep reverting to the same old irrelevencies.
find me one decendent of the cannanites living today.

[[KMA]Avenger]

dear Kma..:]
i have my reasons to quite posing over this topic.
if u feel like haveing real talk about it .. try msn or Pm & i'll love to disscuse all the rest there..

i seriously cant be bothered having an entire discussion via Pm and i dont use MSN or any other chat any more. i will be more than happy to carry on the discussion here.

just gotta love the way you keep reverting to the same old irrelevencies.

so now the fact the Canaanites being there first is irrelevant?

look, your claim to that comes from the Bible "God gave it to us" and "a land without people for a people without land" isn't that what the bible and the vast majority of Israelis say?

and yet, both historical records unearthed from that time period and archaeology paint a completely different tale of events...but that don't matter because its irrelevant because God gave that land to the Hebrew people...OH, i forgot! your an atheist...i spose that means your shi* out of luck as far as your claim to that land goes.

find me one decendent of the cannanites living today.

look over the fence and you'll see quite a few of them...while they are still alive that is....maybe after their all dead you (you as in your Govt, NOT you as in you personally) will finally admit to having committed Genocide.

[Hitchkok]

just gotta love the way you keep reverting to the same old irrelevencies.

so now the fact the Canaanites being there first is irrelevant?

look, your claim to that comes from the Bible "God gave it to us" and "a land without people for a people without land" isn't that what the bible and the vast majority of Israelis say?
i wonder how many times i have to mention the fact Israel is a secular state before you leave the whole bible thing alone.
and yet, both historical records unearthed from that time period and archaeology paint a completely different tale of events...but that don't matter because its irrelevant because God gave that land to the Hebrew people...OH, i forgot! your an atheist...i spose that means your shi* out of luck as far as your claim to that land goes.
ever heard of a little thing called the UN council? oh, forgot your a NWO loon. guess your **Filtered** (masking is wrong) out of luck as far as, well, anything goes.

find me one decendent of the cannanites living today.

look over the fence and you'll see quite a few of them...while they are still alive that is....maybe after their all dead you (you as in your Govt, NOT you as in you personally) will finally admit to having committed Genocide.

you do realise that the so called "Palestinians" immigrated to the land of Israel circa 1900? when the ottoman empire brought them as cheap labor for it's railroad projects? check up on your history facts.
EDIT: an don't even get me started on genocide again. we talked it over thrice in this thread. spend some time here, then revise your assumptions.

[Dr. Phil]

I say nuke the damn region until its uninhabitable. And guess what its not about the Israelis or Palestinians.

[Dubby_CompGamerGeek2]

I say nuke the damn region until its uninhabitable. And guess what its not about the Israelis or Palestinians.

I've often had similar thoughts...

Don't forget to take Mecca with you.

[~Invisible fox~]

I say nuke the damn region until its uninhabitable. And guess what its not about the Israelis or Palestinians.

I've often had similar thoughts...

Don't forget to take Mecca with you.

Is it the right way to take care of problams ? violence ? if u think so your nothing better then terrorist .

dear Kma..:]
i have my reasons to quite posing over this topic.
if u feel like haveing real talk about it .. try msn or Pm & i'll love to disscuse all the rest there..

i seriously cant be bothered having an entire discussion via Pm and i dont use MSN or any other chat any more. i will be more than happy to carry on the discussion here.

if thats the case , granted, will keep it in here.

[[KMA]Avenger]

thanks