MaYHeM/DDE vs FS

[RoKeT]

Blah more fighting lol this is a game after all... Can't we all keep it to that?

Seriously i love warring FS they give me some nice stuff and do build up they are a great bunch of guys and have alot of fun!

and i love my family in DDE so i don't see why it has to be taken more then just a game and a way to play a game

[buck]

Just popping into say....

Go brothers!!! Rank 3! Have him and rank 1 Qacol 1v1, the losses would be EPIX!

[Andariel]

hurray for stats

[Seaborgium]

Blah more fighting lol this is a game after all... Can't we all keep it to that?

Seriously i love warring FS they give me some nice stuff and do build up they are a great bunch of guys and have alot of fun!

and i love my family in DDE so i don't see why it has to be taken more then just a game and a way to play a game

I won't argue there. FS does have some good guys, but in my time playing the game FS has left a more bitter taste then DDE.
Many players have come and gone, many 'bad eggs' from both dde and FS have gone.

[Drahazar]

just joined DDE.... who wants to take my stats first

[Seaborgium]

Subject: DDE vs FS

well with crocket he said he would do a rumble
Cept I got home late and I didn't bug him since I know his lady friend is about

this is kinda funny

Subject: DDE vs FS

i haven't seen FS post in this in forever... i don't think many people follow it anymore either lol, not trying to be mean just sayin...

Thats bc they were called on a bluff.

no it was because your membership was rude

and because as the thread disaggregated, we ask for it to be closed, and it wasn't hence, no more talk on forum with dde

as far as a bluff, not sure, i have allegiance with brother for over 2 years, i have never had him claim any untruth, and in fact, kap1 never came forward to say he was the one who took down the defense and the size of it. And kap1, he not likely not to call **Filtered**, having spoke to him a few times. It could be, that some where in the middle lies the truth, but what the hell, our members will just keep taking them trillion defences down as u put them up, till deni and easy reach some agreement. Kinda sorry state for u guys thou, can't beat 20 or so accounts into submission. lol keep try en, we are not going any where but up up in the ascendancy ranks and account sizes. If u feel like it, come to FS forum, rocket and tempy seem to have fun there.

fear not
Papa aka Hal
same time, same as the last year

1. I will give you I know some in DDE can be rude, and down left arogant.
2. I can't do/say much about the closing.
3. I think there was a bluff, of the def, but Untill someone shows up with logs, that were said to be around, but are gone now, well I think this argument from any outsiders point of view would go to us. 1 simple showing of a spy log would have settled this, well with me anyways
4. I know a few Trill defs that are still up, sadly not me, i don't have that big a def.
5. I don't see how its a sorry state, we aren't going anywhere either. we are also ascending.
6. I am on the FS forum, I go out once in a while when I feel like dealing with a bad forum connection. I didn't really like your setup tbh. But if you like thats good considering its your forum lol.

Please if you have anything to say to me do not take it to PM. I hate getting crap like this that should be shared with all.

You have a good day.

There was no bluff, Brother did mass Bebita, I am best mates with Brother in RL, have been for over 20 years and in August I will be best man at his wedding, he did not lie, Bebita is full it as usual.

The logs had timed out ( over 10 days old ), if the logs hadnt timed out Bebita could have just as easily posted his logs to show his claimed defense.

Brother has his week also taken down REKs 12.5 Trill def, Rob3rts 11.3 Trill def and what ever Commodor had I forget and a few others, and this time he saved the logs incase proof is ever needed.

I am guessing you missed the part about PMs....

I not saying Brother didn't mass bebita. but you all brought up a spy op, which is what was asked for.
on a side note, Congrats Brother on the wedding, however marriage isn't bliss..

[deni]

I say it again: Brother did NOT MASS bebita's 8 tril defense. It was Kaps1 that did it.

I am still disappointed in how FS is taking credit for something someone else did and has not the decency to even apologize to Kaps for it.

It diminishes the recent efforts of brothers and is a stigma he and FS have to wear. I was hoping that after the spirits have calmed down, brother will be man enough to admit his mistake be it even in private. Seems my hopes were futile.


And as a fact: At the time of the discussion the logs were not timed out. FS chose to "boycott" rather conveniently this topic instead of ending the discussion by posting a single spy log or attack log showing bebita's supposed 8 tril defense.

[deni]

Subject: DDE vs FS

I say it again: Brother did NOT MASS bebita's 8 tril defense. It was Kaps1 that did it.

I am still disappointed in how FS is taking credit for something someone else did and has not the decency to even apologize to Kaps for it.

It diminishes the recent efforts of brothers and is a stigma he and FS have to wear. I was hoping that after the spirits have calmed down, brother will be man enough to admit his mistake be it even in private. Seems my hopes were futile.


And as a fact: At the time of the discussion the logs were not timed out. FS chose to "boycott" rather conveniently this topic instead of ending the discussion by posting a single spy log or attack log showing bebita's supposed 8 tril defense.

Check the dates on the posts and get a grip, the logs were timed out, like I already said if they were not timed out Im sure Bebita could have posted his own from that day.

And you're not exactly subtle, its glaringly obvious you were looking to insult members of FS and provoke an argument to give you a reason to go back on the deal JT made when you were on hols.

You want us to keep massing and farming you for another year so be it. Makes no difference to us, if DDE war had ended we would surely be in a new war by now anyways

The logs were NOT timed out. Check the dates again and do simple maths.

I asked you to END the discussion by providing a single log. ONE LOG showing bebita's 8 tril defense. You failed but continue to insult everyone here with refusing to admit your lie.

Bebita could have posted logs showing brothers massing a 2 tril defense. Not use your head and tell me what this would have proven?

It would have been the proof that brother massed a 2 tril defense. Would it prove that he did not mass a 8 tril one?

Would it?

As for the supposed deal made by JT I will ask you to do only one thing: Ask MLH to post the COMPLETE logs of the convo with JT (and not only the few lines that were posted on the FS forum) and tell me after you have seen the complete msn logs what deal was made.


Bending the truth might be convenient.

It takes a man to admit their mistakes though and so far it seems that no one in FS is that man.

[jedi~tank]

I massed you you massed me, now we're one big happy fam a lee..bla bla bla

nice one brother.


Jedi~Tank
The Dealer



@Smurf- na we arent upset because we cant beat 20 or so accounts into submission. Im just upset because of that "jar" ............

[deni]

Subject: DDE vs FS

Subject: DDE vs FS

I say it again: Brother did NOT MASS bebita's 8 tril defense. It was Kaps1 that did it.

I am still disappointed in how FS is taking credit for something someone else did and has not the decency to even apologize to Kaps for it.

It diminishes the recent efforts of brothers and is a stigma he and FS have to wear. I was hoping that after the spirits have calmed down, brother will be man enough to admit his mistake be it even in private. Seems my hopes were futile.


And as a fact: At the time of the discussion the logs were not timed out. FS chose to "boycott" rather conveniently this topic instead of ending the discussion by posting a single spy log or attack log showing bebita's supposed 8 tril defense.

Check the dates on the posts and get a grip, the logs were timed out, like I already said if they were not timed out Im sure Bebita could have posted his own from that day.

And you're not exactly subtle, its glaringly obvious you were looking to insult members of FS and provoke an argument to give you a reason to go back on the deal JT made when you were on hols.

You want us to keep massing and farming you for another year so be it. Makes no difference to us, if DDE war had ended we would surely be in a new war by now anyways

The logs were NOT timed out. Check the dates again and do simple maths.

I asked you to END the discussion by providing a single log. ONE LOG showing bebita's 8 tril defense. You failed but continue to insult everyone here with refusing to admit your lie.

Bebita could have posted logs showing brothers massing a 2 tril defense. Not use your head and tell me what this would have proven?

It would have been the proof that brother massed a 2 tril defense. Would it prove that he did not mass a 8 tril one?

Would it?

As for the supposed deal made by JT I will ask you to do only one thing: Ask MLH to post the COMPLETE logs of the convo with JT (and not only the few lines that were posted on the FS forum) and tell me after you have seen the complete msn logs what deal was made.


Bending the truth might be convenient.

It takes a man to admit their mistakes though and so far it seems that no one in FS is that man.

My response to Deni asking Hal for the convo we had on that cold day in September...


I will not publish the convo had between myself and JT out of respect for JT and a respect for the personal and private nature of our conversations.

in other words not suitable not relevant not game related none of your business.

I will say that we had high hopes and sentiment was to be brought to respective HC's as any decisions were out of both of our hands.

It was expected that Deni and Easy would be left to negotiate.

Have a wonderful day

MLH

MLH, I am not interested in any private convos you have with JT.

The only thing I ask is for you to post the full (ingame) convos and not just parts of them that suggest some kind of deal between FS and DDE, so YOUR own alliance mates can see for themselves and not claim ridiculous things based on the limited information you have provided them with.


And btw, the convo was not in September but in Feb .


Anyways, thank you for the confirmation that there was NO agreement to end this war between DDE and FS.

Makes it rather hard for me to go back on an non existant agreement, right Mezzanine? There gpes your theory ... but nice try anyways. Better luck next time

[RoKeT]

Since logs are now deleted why doesn't someone just get Kaps on here and see wat he has to say...

[papa~smurf]

Subject: DDE vs FS

deni wrote:
MajorLeeHurts wrote:
Subject: DDE vs FS

deni wrote:
MEZZANINE wrote:
Subject: DDE vs FS

deni wrote:
I say it again: Brother did NOT MASS bebita's 8 tril defense. It was Kaps1 that did it.

I am still disappointed in how FS is taking credit for something someone else did and has not the decency to even apologize to Kaps for it.

It diminishes the recent efforts of brothers and is a stigma he and FS have to wear. I was hoping that after the spirits have calmed down, brother will be man enough to admit his mistake be it even in private. Seems my hopes were futile.


And as a fact: At the time of the discussion the logs were not timed out. FS chose to "boycott" rather conveniently this topic instead of ending the discussion by posting a single spy log or attack log showing bebita's supposed 8 tril defense.



Check the dates on the posts and get a grip, the logs were timed out, like I already said if they were not timed out Im sure Bebita could have posted his own from that day.

And you're not exactly subtle, its glaringly obvious you were looking to insult members of FS and provoke an argument to give you a reason to go back on the deal JT made when you were on hols.

You want us to keep massing and farming you for another year so be it. Makes no difference to us, if DDE war had ended we would surely be in a new war by now anyways




The logs were NOT timed out. Check the dates again and do simple maths.

I asked you to END the discussion by providing a single log. ONE LOG showing bebita's 8 tril defense. You failed but continue to insult everyone here with refusing to admit your lie.

Bebita could have posted logs showing brothers massing a 2 tril defense. Not use your head and tell me what this would have proven?

It would have been the proof that brother massed a 2 tril defense. Would it prove that he did not mass a 8 tril one?

Would it?

As for the supposed deal made by JT I will ask you to do only one thing: Ask MLH to post the COMPLETE logs of the convo with JT (and not only the few lines that were posted on the FS forum) and tell me after you have seen the complete msn logs what deal was made.


Bending the truth might be convenient.

It takes a man to admit their mistakes though and so far it seems that no one in FS is that man.






My response to Deni asking Hal for the convo we had on that cold day in September...


I will not publish the convo had between myself and JT out of respect for JT and a respect for the personal and private nature of our conversations.

in other words not suitable not relevant not game related none of your business.

I will say that we had high hopes and sentiment was to be brought to respective HC's as any decisions were out of both of our hands.

It was expected that Deni and Easy would be left to negotiate.

Have a wonderful day

MLH



MLH, I am not interested in any private convos you have with JT.

The only thing I ask is for you to post the full (ingame) convos and not just parts of them that suggest some kind of deal between FS and DDE, so YOUR own alliance mates can see for themselves and not claim ridiculous things based on the limited information you have provided them with.


And btw, the convo was not in September but in Feb .


Anyways, thank you for the confirmation that there was NO agreement to end this war between DDE and FS.

Makes it rather hard for me to go back on an non existant agreement, left Mezzanine? There gpes your theory ... but nice try anyways. Better luck next time


think u are misunderstanding aud completely deni. It is out of respect to JT that she taking that place. U are a funny creature deni i must say. u very much like to look on one thing, much like missing the forest cause u love the bark of the tree.

as i said,

no one is moaning...in fact, we had not told our membership about it u just did

no really bought in completely to the idea that JT could broker such a deal...hence, easy going to him ( easy being the top of our food chain) to see about it, and in fact agreeing (thou i have not seen the whole of the convo this is my understanding) One would assume that JT was speaking with "good faith" , and even if it did fall apart, he is not to blame for it. It is those above him. He just did not have the giss to do it.

in the end, its u and easy as i have repeatedly said, and have relayed that to easy and u both

u could say to me " hal this end in an hour" and i would say:

"Talk to easy"

so let it go
babita, "the deal" whatever.......i personally grow tried of the flame fest that some time en lopes both the camps. Its spring, time to planet flowers and veggies, play lots of parties with good beer and friend, look at gatewars yes, but really, after a year, u guys really are not that interesting to talk to with all the dark stuff. Things moved in the right diction for a while clearly, but is off track now, and clearly, only u and easy can put it back to where it should be.
JT tried/proposed, FS accepted, even allowed some time in between to find a softening/understanding....but here we are.

as i said, hope the spring finds fresh air blowing through your windows

fear not
Hal

[DavyC]

Only posting in response to Seaborgium:

We'll have that bday battle maybe at the end of the week if it suits? Got some project work to do. Don't be disappointed if it only lasts 10 mins cuz you win hands down or my net cuts out

[jedi~tank]

That sort of talk is why I launched on you to begin with. I didnt want to be bothered posting here for a while, but since my leader is being slandered again I will..

The attack logs of brother massing bebs 8 tril def, doesnt exist. Kaps1 massed his defense.

THE DEAL was never a deal, it was a speech, a scenario of what might be if easy and deni decide it. Why the speech? After a long nice chat with MLH regarding family, kids and work the subject of the DDE/FS war anniversarry came up, so we talked, "you post in your forum Ill post in mine..what should we say? Does the S word have to be included? Want to write a speech? I am no good at speeches, ok Ill do it, how about a similar one that I wrote for the Server war? OK, ok here you post and Ill post. Now keep in mind everything is contingent upon easy and deni settling whatever there is to settle..ok will do.....

Thats the chat in a nut shell, never was a deal


I would like to address one other point, there is rumor that a power struggle exists between Deni and myself, not true. She owns the jar that my personal belongings reside in and I am prefectly fine with it. Read my sig, my ingame title and my msn title.

This war started with someone insulting Deni in a very rude way, and Hal you should be ashamed of yourself for some of the things in your previous post. I was embarrassed to see that and embarrassing me is no easy chore. All that was asked was logs, proof that brother did what he claimed, nothing more and nothing less.

You can be proud of the fact that 20 or so have taken on the mighty DDE? no, you have been sat on as there is now and has been the whole time very limited participation from your side, but thats not the point here. The point is I stand up for and am very protective of my leader and its none of your business why.

Loved by few, respected by many, feared by all.


Jedi~Tank
Happy because I have friends

[Desert Ghost]

After this , i dont know how to react really....
there are alot of nice players in FS, but to see this **Filtered**?
not nice at all....

Well, Carry on - W.A.R.

DG