[KMA]Avenger wrote: sorry, but as far as i'm concerned i don't hear what i'm told to hear. mind control or even manipulation to a lesser degree simply doesn't work on me, i'm to self concious and self aware for it to work, i always have been.
So you're saying you're not human?

This has nothing to do with manipulation -sure, the principle can be used for manipulation, but it'd be too obvious- and everything with the fallibility of your mind. For example, if I let you listen to a recording of me saying "F*** the government", and only let you hear "F<gray noise> the government", you will hear me swearing at the government. Now if you heard me talk positively about the government before, you're more likely to hear "For the government".

That's got nothing to do with being manipulated, but everything with being a human being. If your brains work different from human beings, well.. cheers, our frames of reference are incompatible!
[KMA]Avenger wrote: if someone says to me, "listen to this and you will hear this or that being said", i wont say i heard it when i didnt.
Point is not that you will say you hear it when you didn't.. point is that you will, physically, hear it. It's your brain, brother. And it's falling short of being independent as much as mine.
[KMA]Avenger wrote: as far as Obama saying "thank you Satan" backwards goes, i've listened to many of his speeches where he says "yes we can" and it always sounds the same when played backwards "thank you Satan".
i only posted that film for the simple reason that this film is the only one i've found which was done the other way round to prove "thank you Satan" does come out as i hear it "yes we can".
Well.. if it works one way, it works the other way as well. So yes, if you can prove it, I'll accept that. However, I fail to see the relevance of what someone says in reverse. Good god, if we're supposed to watch our tongues even in **Filtered** reverse..

I wonder what I just said.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:but i haven't stopped there, i don't simply see that as total proof because i want to prove it to my self conclusively by recording both "yes we can" and "thank you Satan" to see what comes out the other end...once i've figured out why my mic isnt working!
[spoiler]i've had to do a completely new install of windows a couple weeks back due to a rather nasty virus which killed my boot sector on my old drive which rendered it completely and utterly unusable and unformatable (if thats even a word?!). anyways, since the new install i haven't been able to get my mic to work

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I might be able to help with that.

All your drivers are properly installed?
ps. I'm glad you're on this topic. Back to basics, eh?

Fun.