The best I can tell is that the ignorance on "our side" is that Christians believe witchcraft = evil; it is a part of their religion, so no matter how stupid we believe that assumption to be, it is a religious standpoint. Which makes the entire debate one centered around religion. The problem with religious debates is that you will never be able to change anyone's mind so it goes around in circles until both sides start feeling the redundant pattern of the argument. No one will concede the viewpoint of the other side of the debate, so it is pointless.
Religious stand point is all viewpoints on witchcraft.
That is essentially what I remember about our "conversation".
Ah!
In that case, this is locked. It has degenerated into a debate using myth and plebeian tradition of self-deceit as foundation for arguments.. we cannot have that.
This forces the question, why wasnt it locked when it was first made? It was obvious that it was going to be a religious debate.
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And going by this logic we would have to lock half the threads in the debate forum.
and to answer some things which i didnt get to
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My comment about it being inherently evil was from the perspective of the EverythingIsTerrible group, not my own opinion. Nothing is inherently evil.
Try Satan/Demons and man can be considered inherently evil.
Explain to me which parts are unjust or unwarranted. Pagans go to war just like Christians do, when they join their national military, but they have never created a war that was fueled by religious beliefs. What is not true about the general view of pagan beliefs? Do you know many pagans or their beliefs, besides getting the idea from media that is obviously anti-paganist in nature? Yes, judgment is inevitable, but one can try to fight against passing uninformed and unwarranted judgments. Your third argument/question is incredibly arrogant. I know pagan beliefs because I have studied them, been a part of them, and know many pagans (most in Wicca-related spiritual beliefs).
War in the flesh is man, maybe in the name of religion, but it is still man. Was the crusades fueld by religious beliefs? No, It was political and human greed that started it. Religion was just used as an excuse. Take for example the modern day war in iraq, Afghanistan. There is two sides, People fighting because they dont want the americans in their country stuffing everything up. and the extremist who are following the teachings of islam. THat being said the Christian doctrine does not condone war, as it is clearly stated
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12
that being said
Here you go agreeing with a sarcasticcomment on my part. So you honestly believe that any book where witchcraft is used, assuming by more than just the bad guys, is an evil book? Just because there is witchcraft?
Just because 'good' condones and uses witchcraft.
[/quote]So sandman what do you think the punishment should be for those who practice witchcraft?
Not my place to say.
I do not believe in book banning, for any reason. Also, I find it highly interesting and amusing that the Koran is supposedly a fascist doctrine. And I do not believe that Harry Potter is anywhere near well-written enough to be able to damage anyone who reads it. You throw extremist around about all of these HP fans and other extremists in the world. But all you have shown me is how extremist you are in your personal/world views.
I guess you are totally fine with neo nazis with their Mein Kampf spreading racist bigotry giving hitler salutes and marching around. To the point where there is a nazi party in your country comprised of former KKK members. Totality understandable.
Not mentioning the fact Islamic countries forbid the practice of other religions, well most religions.[/spoiler]
