Rank History.

[Darth CRÅYSHACK_Toe9292]

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[raistlin majere]

You made my point for me - it is a nice to have. There are bigger things to be looked at/implemented before the nice to haves should be implemented - everyone keeps banging on about 'When will Chaos be released?' - sooner, if the nice to haves are put to one side.

What I was trying to point out in my previous post is that before you post you should ask yourself some basic questions......

1. Will my suggestion actually add anything to the game?

2. Does what i want already exist in a different way? (in the case of this suggestion - yes)

3. Are there more pressing suggestions being discussed/considered which will mean that my suggestion will be put on the back burner/ignored? (the idea with this one being that your suggestion will not be as well received if there are more pressing changes being discussed - better to wait a while to get a better reception).

I was not, as you put it, trying to take fun/intrigue out of the idea - I was speaking as a mod and a player who has seen many such suggestions posted in the last 11 months - and, from experience, suggestions such as this are shelved or dismissed because of bigger priorities.

well then...i live in america and there alot of BS laws that are passed, alot concerning electronics and connecting/communicating with them(or prohibition thereof) yet WE have more pressing matters, such as...illegal aliens...war...bushes idocy...yet we still get lesser laws passed...just because there are more "important" or relevant things doesnt mean you can ignore the lesser ones.

[Wolf359]

Listen bud - there's no need to have a dig at me - I'm doing the job I've been asked to do as a Moderator.

I have simply passed on the things that I consider before making a game suggestion, and my knowledge of what happens to lesser ideas (not because they are bad ideas, but because they are relatively unimportant, or do nothing). If you have a problem with anything I said, I woul appreciate it if you contacted me privately rather than attempt to rebuke me in public.

[Bad Wolf]

Yeah Raistlin Majere cut him some slack, he is doing a good job

[MackTheKnife]

Question: Would it add to the game..

Answer: No.

Well, I'm pretty sure it would add a rank history thing, but I guess your just trying to be smart about it.

Question: Is it a priority?

Answer: No.
So? It's a suggestion in a forum, it's not like I'm going to go the admins house and force them to put it in. This is the place for suggestions is it not? IMO, my suggestion is alot better than some of the other suggestions I've read.

Question: Could you just compare you rank before spending the mentioned 400 million to your rank afterward?

Answer: Yes.
Again with the stupid answer, I would want this to see how my rank is being effected over time (perhaps over a few days), for example if I go to bed, wake up and i've been attacked, I'd have dropped rank, and once I repair I'd want to see how much I've dropped.

Or I'll want to see how much I've grown over a day. I know your a mod, but is it really neccessary to be stupid about it?

Question: Do we NEED this?

Answer: No.

Do we need stargatewars? Do we really need anything? Do we need miners? Do we really need sabbing? Do we really need the market? Anyone could say "No" to any of those.


It seems alot of people like this idea, perhaps you should think about the positive

I'm not breaking any of the rules of game suggestions (and if it was suggested before, I could'nt find it with search), maybe be more open minded about it next time. It seems like a resonably popular idea, won't hurt the game balance, is'nt a stupid idea, and is'nt a duplicate one.

I would have thought a mod would be praising a suggestion that is'nt a "LeT mE bReAk ppt plz" or "plz mke new rce of genni" (with no rules or anything) or "[please make goauld better", instead of slamming a idea which is intelligent, and resonably supported.

If you want people to :

[quote]*snip*
What I was trying to point out in my previous post is that before you post you should ask yourself some basic questions......

1. Will my suggestion actually add anything to the game?
2. Does what i want already exist in a different way? (in the case of this suggestion - yes)
3. Are there more pressing *snip* better to wait a while to get a better reception).
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Then perhaps use your mod powers to make it part of the rules for this section? But then, the idiots making stupid suggestions would'nt stop anyway, and you'd get less intelligent ones, because you can always argue that something "would'nt add to the game".

[KnightValor]

Lol, what's your big deal?

Even if it was added, think of it this way... a reward:time spent ratio.

Lemme tell you, this would take SO MUCH time and server space... Every half an hour, every user. Imagine how large your logs would be if you'd had them at the beginning of the game. Yeah. As for time, PHP isn't java, ok? PHP isn't made to create programs or mock graphing calculators. PHP is made to be the ultimate, easy, server-side scripting language. When would that involve making graphs?

The only way admin could do this would be a sideways line graph (turning it over COMPLICATES EVERYTHING) and huge, huge datatables composed of BILLIONS of records. In just over one day, you get ONE MILLION: 1,000,000/20,000=50, 50/2 = 25 hours.

Now, you may say something along the lines of, "But its just a three-five digit number! That means only [so many] megabites per year!"

Well, it just doesn't work that way. Each record would also have to keep track of the date and user's id # in order for it to be databased correctly. Not to mention, there would be much more code seperating the different records, telling which part is the date, which part is the rank, which part is the user's id. Its like a word document... even if it only is a two word document does not change the fact that word stores your font, your font color, your font size, yadda yadda ya.

I'm guessing adding this to the game, even with like a two-day memory or something, server space will only decrease per user.

If it were a matter of wishing it and magically being rewarded, it might fly. But in the land of PHP coding, you just plain gotta agree with wolf.

[MackTheKnife]

Lol, what's your big deal?

Even if it was added, think of it this way... a reward:time spent ratio.

Lemme tell you, this would take SO MUCH time and server space... Every half an hour, every user. Imagine how large your logs would be if you'd had them at the beginning of the game. Yeah. As for time, PHP isn't java, ok? PHP isn't made to create programs or mock graphing calculators. PHP is made to be the ultimate, easy, server-side scripting language. When would that involve making graphs?

The only way admin could do this would be a sideways line graph (turning it over COMPLICATES EVERYTHING) and huge, huge datatables composed of BILLIONS of records. In just over one day, you get ONE MILLION: 1,000,000/20,000=50, 50/2 = 25 hours.

Now, you may say something along the lines of, "But its just a three-five digit number! That means only [so many] megabites per year!"

Well, it just doesn't work that way. Each record would also have to keep track of the date and user's id # in order for it to be databased correctly. Not to mention, there would be much more code seperating the different records, telling which part is the date, which part is the rank, which part is the user's id. Its like a word document... even if it only is a two word document does not change the fact that word stores your font, your font color, your font size, yadda yadda ya.

I'm guessing adding this to the game, even with like a two-day memory or something, server space will only decrease per user.

If it were a matter of wishing it and magically being rewarded, it might fly. But in the land of PHP coding, you just plain gotta agree with wolf.

In the land of "this is the game suggestion forum", I agree with myself. No-one says any of these needs to happen, this is the suggestion forum, and that's just what I'm doing. Suggesting. I don't like being attacked by a mod for not following his imaginary rules.

[Wolf359]

Question: Would it add to the game..

Answer: No.

Well, I'm pretty sure it would add a rank history thing, but I guess your just trying to be smart about it.

Question: Is it a priority?

Answer: No.
So? It's a suggestion in a forum, it's not like I'm going to go the admins house and force them to put it in. This is the place for suggestions is it not? IMO, my suggestion is alot better than some of the other suggestions I've read.

Question: Could you just compare you rank before spending the mentioned 400 million to your rank afterward?

Answer: Yes.
Again with the stupid answer, I would want this to see how my rank is being effected over time (perhaps over a few days), for example if I go to bed, wake up and i've been attacked, I'd have dropped rank, and once I repair I'd want to see how much I've dropped.

Or I'll want to see how much I've grown over a day. I know your a mod, but is it really neccessary to be stupid about it?

Question: Do we NEED this?

Answer: No.

Do we need stargatewars? Do we really need anything? Do we need miners? Do we really need sabbing? Do we really need the market? Anyone could say "No" to any of those.


It seems alot of people like this idea, perhaps you should think about the positive

I'm not breaking any of the rules of game suggestions (and if it was suggested before, I could'nt find it with search), maybe be more open minded about it next time. It seems like a resonably popular idea, won't hurt the game balance, is'nt a stupid idea, and is'nt a duplicate one.

I would have thought a mod would be praising a suggestion that is'nt a "LeT mE bReAk ppt plz" or "plz mke new rce of genni" (with no rules or anything) or "[please make goauld better", instead of slamming a idea which is intelligent, and resonably supported.

If you want people to :

[quote]*snip*
What I was trying to point out in my previous post is that before you post you should ask yourself some basic questions......

1. Will my suggestion actually add anything to the game?
2. Does what i want already exist in a different way? (in the case of this suggestion - yes)
3. Are there more pressing *snip* better to wait a while to get a better reception).

Then perhaps use your mod powers to make it part of the rules for this section? But then, the idiots making stupid suggestions would'nt stop anyway, and you'd get less intelligent ones, because you can always argue that something "would'nt add to the game".[/quote]

Some of you out there are just far too sensitive about somethings - or do you forget that ideas putin here are also subject to criticsm? My question/answer thing was merely a form of criticsm.

Yes - you are right it is a suggestions forum - but, I could have just locked this because rank history has been suggested before. However, since it has not been sugested recently, I thought I would leave it open, and make comment. And it is still MY opinion that this is a suggestion that would add nothing to the game - and as you put it, MackTheKnife, I am not trying to be smart! I do not even know how you can think that I was.

Additionally - how was my suggestion that you just look at your rank before and after spending 400 million naq stupid? It was you who said you wanted to see how spending 400 million affected your rank. Say what you mean - but do not go around calling anybody stupid - especially when your original post was not particularly clear.

And yes, people could say no to a lot of things, and perhaps some people do like this idea - but the reason I say NO to this is because it will not add anything to the gameplay of the game - things like sabbing, the market and miners DO add to the gameplay.

And please - do not think what I should be doing - if I had thought it was a good suggestion, I would have said as such - However, I never actually said it was a bad suggestion - I just think that the game does not need it. Sorry for offering my opinion. I would also like to point out that I am not stopping anyone from offering their opinions about this suggestion - and, if you do not agree with me, fine, but I would appreciate it if you did not respond with comments like 'you're just trying to be smart' or being told that I am being stupid - if you disagree with something I say - then quantify your disagreement without TRYING to be clever and/or insulting.

However, your suggestion of incorporating the questions you should ask yourself before posting into the rules is a good idea.

[Huxley]

Well, It's a good suggestion I think, but this means slower to open pages, because it would have to be included in the sidenav somewere, creating slower ingame play