Well today if most don't know was a important day in the history of Ireland and Britain. Today A British Prime Minister apologized for actions of The British army on bloody Sunday. I do not wish for a public debate on those events it is to sensitive a subject however I wish just to say as an Irish Catholic to be part of people actually cheering a British Prime Minister (this may be the first time it has happened period apart from gladstone) and meaning it for his words on the subject were statesman like and more importantly show me and others that peace and reconciliation can happen. One commentator said it was a speech worth remembering for peace of perhaps the century to date what it means to me is coming from my background that the impossible can happen
it was a hell of a speech and David Cameron earned my respect and believe it or not many others as he is a Conservative leader who were in charge for 99 percent of the troubles.
More importantly he stepped up and showed he can be a heavyweight if only for a day it should be a day he should be proud as its likely only day he will be cheered by people of the nationlist irish community and has healed alot of wounds mentally among the people here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8742073.stm
theres the link of the main part of the speech
David Cameron Becomes A Statesman - Bloody Sunday Apology
- EbilCC
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 3316
- Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:19 pm
- ID: 0
David Cameron Becomes A Statesman - Bloody Sunday Apology
Last edited by EbilCC on Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:45 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
Juliette Verified
- The Queen
- Posts: 31802
- Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:57 pm
- Race: Royalty
- ID: 4323
- Alternate name(s): Cersei Lannister
- Location: Ultima Thule
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman
Cameron rocks. For now. But yes, as a person, I think he actually means what he says. 
Congratulations Britain.
Now kick Obama hard enough not to kill your pensions, and you'll get the main prize.
Congratulations Britain.
Now kick Obama hard enough not to kill your pensions, and you'll get the main prize.

- dark lord tacoma
- Forum Elite
- Posts: 1614
- Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:36 am
- Alliance: ROT
- Race: System Lord
- ID: 1991753
- Alternate name(s): *~Thoth~
- Location: Cumbria in England in Britain on earth
- Contact:
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman
so far so good for Cameron he hasnt yet done any thing to make me regret my vote 


"Play the game for more than you can afford to lose... only then will you learn the game."
Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill
Tek wrote: Your're attempting to gain a steady footing, on a moral highground made of rice pudding.
You have started playing at 15:46:39 on 29. August 2008
Eärendil wrote:I am going to mass them all
- EbilCC
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 3316
- Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:19 pm
- ID: 0
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman
well i dont know if people wish to know this but the fact that people not living here don't know the significance of this was like Obama becoming the first African american president to the irish people that a british PM came out as strongly as he did in his speech its one of those you thought you'd never see moments in history and another was him being cheered by irishmen lol
-
Kit-Fox
- Forum Elite
- Posts: 1666
- Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:22 am
- Race: Tollan
- ID: 0
- Location: Nirvana
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman
Oh please, we didnt need to apologise for that, much like we didnt need to apologise for slavery etc etc that the world has demanded we do.
Typical stupidity but then what can you expect in todays world.
*And for reference we didnt need to apologise for it as the Army did exactly what was asked of it by the NI police force (more acurately the paratroopers on patrol who called for manpower, who were the police at the time) both of which (those on the ground & those who reinforced them) were under fire from molotov cocktails (well at least some sort of implemented firebomb)
EDIT: Not to mention other stuff that was thrown at them.
Typical stupidity but then what can you expect in todays world.
*And for reference we didnt need to apologise for it as the Army did exactly what was asked of it by the NI police force (more acurately the paratroopers on patrol who called for manpower, who were the police at the time) both of which (those on the ground & those who reinforced them) were under fire from molotov cocktails (well at least some sort of implemented firebomb)
EDIT: Not to mention other stuff that was thrown at them.
The river tells no lies, yet standing at its shores the dishonest man still hears them
If you dont like what I post, then tough. Either dont read it or dont bother replying to it.
If you dont like what I post, then tough. Either dont read it or dont bother replying to it.
- EbilCC
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 3316
- Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:19 pm
- ID: 0
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman
sighs the point was to do with the actual speech than the event as I didnt wish to get into an argument but anyway
-
Kit-Fox
- Forum Elite
- Posts: 1666
- Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:22 am
- Race: Tollan
- ID: 0
- Location: Nirvana
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman
CCTheCapedCrusader™ wrote:sighs the point was to do with the actual speech than the event as I didnt wish to get into an argument but anyway
And the point is the speech is apologising for an event we dont need to apologise for & why we dont need to apologise.
Cameron is showing a very weak side in doing so which should be obvious
The river tells no lies, yet standing at its shores the dishonest man still hears them
If you dont like what I post, then tough. Either dont read it or dont bother replying to it.
If you dont like what I post, then tough. Either dont read it or dont bother replying to it.
- Londo Mollari
- Lawnmower
- Posts: 5466
- Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:15 am
- Alliance: Serenity
- Race: Jinchuriki
- Location: Wherever Wally is
- Contact:
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman
Despite the authors intentions for there not to be a discussion on the necessity for this apology. I feel it is inevitable that the thread will progress along this path, as such this belongs in the discussion/debate area
Speaking as a ModMordack wrote: I'd probably go gay for Benjamin Linus. He's everything I want to be.
- MEZZANINE
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 4453
- Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:39 am
- Alliance: Forgotten Serenity
- Race: System Lord
- ID: 81691
- Location: CARDIFF
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman - Bloody Sunday Apology
Was Cameron even born when Bloody Sunday happened ? He dont look old enough.
Now if the UK have officially apologised, what about the IRA, they killed far more innocent people. Wheres their apology ?
Also the US, who's citizens funded the IRA's terror campaign, and the US government who refused to make terrorist fund raising in the US illegal, wheres their apology for being accessories to murder ?
I hate it when people refer to this time as the 'troubles', criminals and murders who turn to blowing things up, torture, intimidation of their own people, religious persecution and premeditated mass murder to try and get their way are a lot more than 'troubles'. And their are many people still living with disabling injuries and grieving for lost loved ones while those responsible walk free, it makes me sick.
Now if the UK have officially apologised, what about the IRA, they killed far more innocent people. Wheres their apology ?
Also the US, who's citizens funded the IRA's terror campaign, and the US government who refused to make terrorist fund raising in the US illegal, wheres their apology for being accessories to murder ?
I hate it when people refer to this time as the 'troubles', criminals and murders who turn to blowing things up, torture, intimidation of their own people, religious persecution and premeditated mass murder to try and get their way are a lot more than 'troubles'. And their are many people still living with disabling injuries and grieving for lost loved ones while those responsible walk free, it makes me sick.



Spoiler
Attack Mercs Killed (30) 459,329,001
Defence Mercs Killed (10) 2,918,478,517
Attack Soldiers Killed(60) 12,677,958
Defence Soldiers Killed(20) 226,236,488
Attack Super Soldiers Killed(300) 490,627,262
Defence Super Soldiers Killed(100) 4,131,482,551
Spies Killed(50) 4,256,505,842
Spy Killers Killed(50) 651,022,448
Mothership Weapons Destroyed(300) 35,583,034
Mothership Shields Destroyed(300) 39,498,511
Mothership Fleets Destroyed(200) 2,413,254
Planet Defences Destroyed(300) 358,539
Planets Taken(5000) 411
Naquadah Stolen(0.0001) 2,355,738,435,154,805
Untrained Kidnapped(50) 5,943,886,456
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001) 74,293,522,376,607
Attack Turns Used(1) 1,731,971
Defence Mercs Killed (10) 2,918,478,517
Attack Soldiers Killed(60) 12,677,958
Defence Soldiers Killed(20) 226,236,488
Attack Super Soldiers Killed(300) 490,627,262
Defence Super Soldiers Killed(100) 4,131,482,551
Spies Killed(50) 4,256,505,842
Spy Killers Killed(50) 651,022,448
Mothership Weapons Destroyed(300) 35,583,034
Mothership Shields Destroyed(300) 39,498,511
Mothership Fleets Destroyed(200) 2,413,254
Planet Defences Destroyed(300) 358,539
Planets Taken(5000) 411
Naquadah Stolen(0.0001) 2,355,738,435,154,805
Untrained Kidnapped(50) 5,943,886,456
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001) 74,293,522,376,607
Attack Turns Used(1) 1,731,971
-
Rottenking
- Forum Expert
- Posts: 1123
- Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:55 pm
- Alliance: The Legion
- Race: System Lord
- ID: 82082
- Location: australia
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman - Bloody Sunday Apology
suppose its like when Australian Prime Minister Rudd apologized to the aboriginals for the stolen generations



If you cannot convince them, confuse them.
- Harry S Truman
- [KMA]Avenger
- Forum Zombie
- Posts: 5630
- Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:07 am
- Location: Borehamwood Elstree, England, 2 mins from George Lucas Studios.
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman - Bloody Sunday Apology
Cameron and every other politician/lord and the monarchy as well are nothing more than a bunch of murdering traitors...PERIOD!

Infinite Love Is the Only Truth: Everything Else Is Illusion.
-David Icke
- Londo Mollari
- Lawnmower
- Posts: 5466
- Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:15 am
- Alliance: Serenity
- Race: Jinchuriki
- Location: Wherever Wally is
- Contact:
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman - Bloody Sunday Apology
i personally dont see the point in this apology
its just as pointless as the UK's apologies for slavery and for the battle of trafalger
its just as pointless as the UK's apologies for slavery and for the battle of trafalger
Speaking as a ModMordack wrote: I'd probably go gay for Benjamin Linus. He's everything I want to be.
-
LegendaryA
- Forum Expert
- Posts: 1340
- Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:19 am
- Alliance: Lost Legends
- ID: 7889
- Contact:
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman - Bloody Sunday Apology
[KMA]Avenger wrote:Cameron and every other politician/lord and the monarchy as well are nothing more than a bunch of murdering traitors...PERIOD!
Isn't it a bit...exagerated?
Temp account.


>>
<<

'Which country are you from?' [Poll]
Spoiler


>>
<<
'Which country are you from?' [Poll]
Spoiler
~~New World Order (Novus Ordo Mundi) is bs. Novus ordo seclorum means "New World of the Ages".~~
- [KMA]Avenger
- Forum Zombie
- Posts: 5630
- Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:07 am
- Location: Borehamwood Elstree, England, 2 mins from George Lucas Studios.
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman - Bloody Sunday Apology
what you talking about?!
i was holding back, that's as mild as i can put it
you don't want to know what i really think of that lot...ESPECIALLY the monarchy!
British and indeed European Monarchy=bunch of drug dealing murdering-inbred-paedophile Satanist-traitors to humanity-scum bags!!!
i was holding back, that's as mild as i can put it
British and indeed European Monarchy=bunch of drug dealing murdering-inbred-paedophile Satanist-traitors to humanity-scum bags!!!

Infinite Love Is the Only Truth: Everything Else Is Illusion.
-David Icke
- Thriller
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 2609
- Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:33 pm
- Alliance: Π Allegiance
- Race: Replimecator
- ID: 0
Re: David Cameron Becomes A Statesman - Bloody Sunday Apology
Lol Mollari must be british....
I think the appology is in the right spirit....
I think the appology is in the right spirit....
Spoiler
Universe wrote:You don't have a case, as Lord Thriller clearly explained.
MajorLeeHurts wrote:^ stole the car and my Booze and my heart * sobs*
Jack wrote: Just wanna be more like you, Master Thriller.
