Moe Man wrote:Islam – Religion of Peace
After reading many posts I cannot help it but laugh at how un educated certain people are about Islam and today’s world.
You can laugh all you want, and deny all you want, what I said
is true. Now, you are probably not part of
them, but denying and screaming ignorance exactly plays the game of said extremists. Belittle the threat, say it's paranoia, that nothing exists...putting head in the sand doesn't solve any problem.
Brainwashed people are uneducated. However, me or Juliette are far from being uneducated people, thank you very much.
I am a Muslim and I am from Lebanon, I have also traveled to many countries for business, I also have many business partnerships with people of many faiths like Jewish, Christian, Buda , Hindu and so on.
Lebanon has a long term share of land and cultures between christians and muslims, however, this cannot be verified in most muslim countries. Christians aren't as "free" as they are in Lebanon in many of those countries.
For me, I never judge a person by their religion or color but by there actions as a person, unfortunaty many of you guys have pre judged all Muslims to be the same as a few (under 2% of all Muslims) bad apples.
We in the Muslim world do not agree with the banana trouble makers that are taunting you guys, nor do we believe that they are true Muslims as they do not follow the laws of Islam.
Problem is, the 98% (according to your opinion) are not really loud on protesting against those extremists. If you *really* disagree with them, make sure to show that.
The USA has created 99.99% of all the problem groups, they helped fund them and give them arms and helped them grow to where they are today.
These trouble makers are not considered Muslims but a bunch of criminals that deserve to be hanged asap.
Problem is, they are rather good at influencing masses, and that also works in european muslims communities...especially among the young people living in suburbs (in the "hood"). They are obviously having a radical stance, and they twist the meanings of religion to their own view. Problem is, they gain popularity, not only in countries "threatend by USA", but also in the immigrated communities in Europe.
If you bother to study the true teachings of Islam, you will find that it teaches you to love your neighbor, it also teaches you that hurting others and suicide is 100% AGAINST ISLAM. Islam also teaches you to respect others even if they do not respect you , Islam also teaches you to respect the laws and culture of the country you are living in and that the laws of that country over rule the laws of Islam.
Then why is there SO MUCH movements and groups of people in Europe asking for sharia law to be implemented? Why is there so little opposition to demands from those groups, and absence of a real and strong reject from the moderated side of Islam in Europe? Why do they consider that their culture and religion laws > country laws? Why do they have this so called nationalism (example algerian immigrants in France, who scream love of Algeria and hate of France, the need for "all hallal food", and however don't want to come back to "homeland, they are in rather big amounts. I know similar situtions exist in Netherlands, UK, Belgium, Spain etc...)
Another word that I seen mentioned in some of the posts is the word Jihad and Allah.
OK the word Jihad means to live in the way of Allahs teachings, let me give you an example of someone who commits Jihad.. eg: If you have a family and you respect your wife and kids and raise them well and provide for them and look after them and go out and work and earn an honest living then this is known as Jihad.
Two forms of Jihad yes, but we are (at least not I) obviously not meaning the spiritual form about your own involvement into practicing the religion, but the warrior one.
Now the meaning of the word Allah is GOD, Arab Christians, Muslims, Jewish and all other religions call GOD –Allah in Arabic as that’s what it means. So if you come across an Arab Jew or Christian they will tell you that Allah is who they believe in because that’s what GOD is in Arabic.
Books are different, there's no trinity in Islam, so what Ashu said is rather right about God and Allah being different.
80% of all Arabs love the west and would love to live in the west and are living in a western style environment in their own country.
15% of all Arabs like the west but will not live there.
3% of all Arabs are so against the Policies of the west that they do not like them
2% of all Arabs are the trouble makers you hear about.
Maybe that applies for Lebanon, but I highly doubt it's the case for majority of muslim countries, or even the case for majority of people living in Europe.
Arabs just get sick of the double standards the west puts in place that is unfair and biased.
Don't start about double standards please, I could bring another massive paragraph about it!
(just read my first post, and how I described all these double standards about "islamophobia", "xenophobia", "racism" etc...and yes, that was true.
Now another thing I want to bring to your attention is the difference between Islam and Arab culture, many people mistake Islam and the Arab culture as being the same.
There's christian arabs, and asian, "white" muslims, I don't deny that at all.
Now many many years ago, its was the Arab culture that a female MUST marry whomever her father tells her to, I mean she does not see her husband to be until the wedding is over, now that is CULTURE, Islam forbids this and also any marriage without the consent of the female is deemed void because Females have rights under Islam.
Yes but a non muslim has to convert to Islam when they marry, especially a woman who marries a muslim man. It happens quite often, in Europe.
Fortunately the Arab culture is changing for the better, I was once asked by a business associate in Paris, she told me that she heard that a wife is only allowed to eat at the table after her husband has finished eating, I told her that I do not know which planet she lived on because in my family I help my wife cook, put the food out and we eat together just like everyone else in the world.
Sadly, the culture in Europe used to be slighty better and tends to become worse in some cases. There was almost no niqab in Europe fifteen years ago, now they pop up every where, and converted european originated people are even more radical than immigrants are in many cases.
A few months back there was a protest in the UK, 40% of them were Jews who were protesting with the Muslims NOT AGAINST....
Don't know what you refer to, but I remember this protest posted few weeks ago about british troops coming back. And all those protests which I posted pics "Europe is the cancer islam is the cure", "freedom of speech go to hell", "prepare for the real holocaust" etc...
A strong rejection of those kind of people and all their demands is what the likes of me ask for, that all the radicals and related to them get expelled out of here.
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