June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

[ƒëmmë ƒatalë]

so we no longer need to sell of weapons before ascending?

[Chronus]

so we no longer need to sell of weapons before ascending?

no i believe you stll need to sell them you just get more naq back for them

[Sarevok]

Because covert levels are out by a factor of ten it doesnt take such a large one now to successfully sab. You dont even need a high covert level anyway.
And yes they will stop regular attacks. What the hell will they have trained that can be massed? part from a few hundred k spies which will be pointless to mass and maybe a small attack to raid.

If they have a small attack to farm and raid, then there not really a sniper... At least, my point of view, is that a sniper has 1T+ strike, and like 50B defence.

so we no longer need to sell of weapons before ascending?

no i believe you stll need to sell them you just get more naq back for them

No, ascending will sell the weapons at 75% of cost value, and give it to you once you ascend.

I agree, there should be something for the independent alliance, since there is something for the independent lone wolf. I'm not sure what the bonus should be as being a lone wolf player is a lot different than being in an alliance, deserving a bigger bonus than the house. Perhaps lone wolf alliances could get a specialty or something. Who knows.

The reason the independent lone wolf gets it, is because they don't have all the alliance gifts alliances get. They can't increase their bank size by 100%, they can't get an extra 12 hours PPT/week, etc. Whilst i see what your getting at, I don't agree. If anything, their bonus is that they don't have a house of alliances which is their enemy, and thus if they use Nox, it being negated.

[BMMJ13]

Because covert levels are out by a factor of ten it doesnt take such a large one now to successfully sab. You dont even need a high covert level anyway.
And yes they will stop regular attacks. What the hell will they have trained that can be massed? part from a few hundred k spies which will be pointless to mass and maybe a small attack to raid.

If they have a small attack to farm and raid, then there not really a sniper... At least, my point of view, is that a sniper has 1T+ strike, and like 50B defence.

With the new update, the best sniper would just have a high covert level to sab down the big defenses to a point where a small strike could mass. Having a huge strike now would be quite suicidal I imagine. With the current sabbing situation, you can train spies, sab, then untrain them and never be touched but be able to do a lot of damage before your capacity runs out. The term sniper is way overused compared to what it actually is, like you said, having a strike 10x or more larger than your defense.

I agree, there should be something for the independent alliance, since there is something for the independent lone wolf. I'm not sure what the bonus should be as being a lone wolf player is a lot different than being in an alliance, deserving a bigger bonus than the house. Perhaps lone wolf alliances could get a specialty or something. Who knows.

The reason the independent lone wolf gets it, is because they don't have all the alliance gifts alliances get. They can't increase their bank size by 100%, they can't get an extra 12 hours PPT/week, etc. Whilst i see what your getting at, I don't agree. If anything, their bonus is that they don't have a house of alliances which is their enemy, and thus if they use Nox, it being negated.

Yes, but those in house get alliance bonuses and house bonuses. I believe some were just suggesting there should be some benefit to being lone wolf alliance as obviously not all will be allowed to join a house and stay.

[odji nsu]

i strongly feel that any alliance not in a house should get some form of bonus, now i might be wrong but i don think you get anything if your alliance if your not in a house. besides access to the alliance bank.

[Forum]

there is no 'lone alliance' bonus...
it was not in the plans, as it demeans the houses, but if one were to come up with a suitable enough 'bonus' i would consider

I have a ? Why is there not some sort of bonus for alliances that dont join a house, and if there is what are they? If not then it seems very unfair to alliances who dont have any care to be a part of a house,, Should make a Im so tough our alliance dont need a house bonus ,


If this ? has been answered already Im sorry i missed it and will someone please tell me what the response was so i dont have to read all 24 pages of people crying they cant mass

thank you

[Forum]

wrong. you do not need to sell.
you CAN sell, but get what you get...not 75%

so we no longer need to sell of weapons before ascending?

no i believe you stll need to sell them you just get more naq back for them

[GOLDEN WING]

there is no 'lone alliance' bonus...
it was not in the plans, as it demeans the houses, but if one were to come up with a suitable enough 'bonus' i would consider

I have a ? Why is there not some sort of bonus for alliances that dont join a house, and if there is what are they? If not then it seems very unfair to alliances who dont have any care to be a part of a house,, Should make a Im so tough our alliance dont need a house bonus ,


If this ? has been answered already Im sorry i missed it and will someone please tell me what the response was so i dont have to read all 24 pages of people crying they cant mass

thank you

give the lone wolves 20% income increase

[odji nsu]

there is no 'lone alliance' bonus...
it was not in the plans, as it demeans the houses, but if one were to come up with a suitable enough 'bonus' i would consider

I have a ? Why is there not some sort of bonus for alliances that dont join a house, and if there is what are they? If not then it seems very unfair to alliances who dont have any care to be a part of a house,, Should make a Im so tough our alliance dont need a house bonus ,


If this ? has been answered already Im sorry i missed it and will someone please tell me what the response was so i dont have to read all 24 pages of people crying they cant mass

thank you

Why not give them the same as the lone wolf only instead of defense and covert, do 10 percent attack and defense, ( looking for more suggestions to help this out so please someone with all those ideas post up)

I do understand it demeans the house thing, but there are going to be alliances that either dont want to join a house or who simple are so unliked they cant stay in one, EPA is having that problem now. And I do think you ar trying to make this game fair for all,, I am sure that any decent bonus you would give would be an up from what they have now,,

Thank you for your response

[odji nsu]

LMAO
It would be you to post up against any idea i have, If you want take it to a vendetta and me and you can war and see if you can use these updates to finally make you able to fight, now to respond to you comment

Really then why is it that there is all of the major empires are working on ways to control all the houses, by planting the proper alliances in a house they can gain control of vote then once they have control they boot the ones they dont want in and give the control to an alliance they have control over. p0of they control that house move to the next. till its controlled by one supreme power
Now if you dont like my bonus suggestion then be post your suggestion, but dont act like you are jason and you control this game,

can some one who is not bias please post some decent suggestions so that it is fair to every alliance in this game,, even those who are unliked or just dont really care to be in a house.

i edited to fix some spelling, mine has always sucked lol

[Rottenking]

I think your forgetting that it is impossible for one allience to take all the houses
the only thing that really stops anyone from takeing control over a house is the possibility of war, and not haveing enough people to get the majority vote

at my last glance, their was still a few houses still able to be taken or atleast joined.
Beggers cannot be choosers, sometimes the smaller alliences should take what they can get in terms on what house they can join


P.s I love it how when someone dose not agree with you, you sprout the bias card, and act as if your being treated unfairly
maybe you should look in the mirror to see when the real problem acctuly lies

[Travis Dane]

give the lone wolves 20% income increase

Basically all inactives at this point would/are considered lonewolves, so they would then get the 20% income bonus too, just doesnt seem right !!

[odji nsu]

are you forgetting that there is way more to fuall then one alliance or even the alliances in it there is there friends who have the same agenda as they do. and rottenking I dont have a care about this for me, you have a lot to learn about odji, cause i have helped more small players in this game then you and many others, and these smaller alliances arent beggers they are newbies and should be able to play the game fairly like all others. With Out them this game would of died a long time ago. But chump like you wouldnt have any idea about that, your only care is you.

Travis Dane lone wolfs have there bonus, Im trying to get a bonus for alliances that dont want to be in a house anything would be helpful for them.

Now stop all the bs and post decent suggestions, or just keep your mouth shut.

[odji nsu]

are you forgetting that there is way more to fuall then one alliance or even the alliances in it there is there friends who have the same agenda as they do. and rottenking I dont have a care about this for me, you have a lot to learn about odji, cause i have helped more small players in this game then you and many others, and these smaller alliances arent beggers they are newbies and should be able to play the game fairly like all others. With Out them this game would of died a long time ago. But chump like you wouldnt have any idea about that, your only care is you.

Travis Dane lone wolfs have there bonus, Im trying to get a bonus for alliances that dont want to be in a house anything would be helpful for them.

Now stop all the bs and post decent suggestions, or just keep your mouth shut.

We are posting ideas, just ones you don't like,

Small alliances can build up with other alliances, look at HVE/PP/a few others, they are all in a house and doing just fine.

There is no need to keep adding bonus's. I still believe that the current houses don't need bonus's

show me the idea, the only thing you posted was that there shouldnt be any bonus for them, but I guess thats what you call an idea,, brilliant you are got anymore,, Oh well i tried to help the alliances that want to stand alone, hopefully someone more liked then me will come give it a try, Im out of this, going back to not given a rats ass, It's not worth auguring with the likes of you 2 losers

[stuff of legends]

If an empire, for instance FUALL managed to take over a few houses, then im sure many people would refuse to play, it wouldnt be just of taking over all the houses, but when you have the few good ones, the rest are just pointless crap.