'Derogative' use of rainbow

[Legendary Apophis]

Oh look another bigotted thread from Pops

Another comment from the local "ultratolerance" lobby representative. Oh noes, did I dare saying that it's not a good thing rainbow is strictly and solely reserved to homosexuals? Daring to not follow the one and only permitted way to think, how could I dare to use freedom to think differently?! That cannot be possible, thinking differently, us living in democracies..wait what?

The only person who didn't understand this thread and made a deal out of this thread is you. Funny, isn't it?

What's your problem pops?

What about hosexuality is deragotive to you? seriously... what idea are you associating with it that you beleive it to be immoral?

I guess it's ok for you to have everything associated with homosexuality more or less, but you know, not everyone thinks the same in this world. Well, you're north american, that's probably why, there's only one way to think, everything else which doesn't follow the "ultratolerance" path has to be rejected and criticized and forced to change their mind. For there's only one true path that shall be followed.


Until I watched north american series and visited this forum, I never heard about a link between homosexuals and rainbows. Yes, that might be surprising to you, but outside of the North America, we don't link half of things with homosexuals...

[RoKeT]

Wait Pops are you gay? If not then why the hell do you hate Homosexuality so much, and if you if you don't hate it, why the hell do you complain about the use of Rainbows?

I was told once, if you are a Homophobe you are probably a Homosexual, and you know it's funny becuase it's probably true... If you can give me one... REAL reason why you should hate someone because they are gay or Lesbian then I might MIGHT accept it, until then, what the hell is with all of this?

you say you can't use a Rainbow because you don't want to be tied in with that, rofl, why why the hell do you care? if your not gay, you have nothing to worry about rofl... if you are gay... Be proud of what you are lol... Just my two cents...

P.S. Mocking someone is not answering there question you just look like an idiot

[Legendary Apophis]

Wait Pops are you gay? If not then why the hell do you hate Homosexuality so much, and if you if you don't hate it, why the hell do you complain about the use of Rainbows?

Oh here we got the second person who didn't understand.
You know, nowadays the word "gay" is almost solely linked with "homosexual". So it means that being gay such as being cheerful disappeared from average Joe language. If that's fine for you, it's not for me.

I was told once, if you are a Homophobe you are probably a Homosexual, and you know it's funny becuase it's probably true... If you can give me one... REAL reason why you should hate someone because they are gay or Lesbian then I might MIGHT accept it, until then, what the hell is with all of this?

What the hell are you babbling about?

you say you can't use a Rainbow because you don't want to be tied in with that, rofl, why why the hell do you care? if your not gay, you have nothing to worry about rofl... if you are gay... Be proud of what you are lol... Just my two cents...

I don't care about it in France, because I know we aren't obsessed with homosexuals relating everything to them.


Since you are all going crazy ways into misunderstanding my thread, I'll tell you why I made it.
Recently, I had to make a sig in a sig contest in sgaw. I was thinking about my earliest sigs, and remembered that once, I made a sig with a rainbow on the borders, I liked this sig, and showed it to someone who told me "It has a rainbow - meaning I should change it - " Probably because some people would use their translator and think it was homo related. Also, I saw the linkage on this forum quite often that rainbow=homo. It's not the fact rainbow is used by homos that is a problem, but the focus that you north americans do with rainbows. It's like totally related to homos. Like if it was a synonym. That, is my problem.

[RoKeT]

Depending on how it looks I suppose now if you put a Naked man wrapped in a Rainbow Flag I think gay, and I'm American, if you put a Leperchaun with a rainbow next to him I think of LUCKY CHARMS BABY WOOHOO

Does that mean i'm gay because I like Lucky Charms OMG Nah i'm jk

Anyways I agree some of the obsession is a bit much I personally believe

That the obsession with Blacks happened before there break through in our system

The obession with Women happened before there break through in our system

Now I think it's the Homosexuals turn... THat is all I think, here in America we have rally's alot, Personally I can go down within 3 miles and find a gay flag no matter where I go (Rainbow)

Thats probably where some get the obsession with...

[Legendary Apophis]

That's what I meant, the obsession. Whatever symbols they want to use it's ok...but as long as said symbols don't become solely linked to them and considered as a synonym to their movement among the people, it's ok for me.

[RoKeT]

well in the 60s think about if someone saw a Black Panther wat do you think it would have linked? it's just the way people precieve, like umm The French Flag

The American flag... wat do you think

The Homosexual Flag is a rainbow... now when you see Red White and Blue Stars wat do you think?

or you see red white and blue with that little weird cross thing

it's just htere symbol... its wat your going to think of seeing the color...

[Legendary Apophis]

well in the 60s think about if someone saw a Black Panther wat do you think it would have linked? it's just the way people precieve, like umm The French Flag

The American flag... wat do you think

The Homosexual Flag is a rainbow... now when you see Red White and Blue Stars wat do you think?

or you see red white and blue with that little weird cross thing

it's just htere symbol... its wat your going to think of seeing the color...

If I see blue red white I will wonder who could that be linked with..could be USA, France, Russia, Luxembourg, Serbia, Netherlands (even though it's mostly orange which relates to them), Paraguay...
See that's a good example, because different people interpret this color differently, for you it will be USA colors, for me it will be France, for a Russian it will be his/her colors...
Obviously if there's red white and blue stars it will be USA...that reduces the "candidates" because there's particularity more than just colors.

Cross thing...you mean Slovakian flag?

But if one of those interpretations was to spread worldwide and tends to dominate the others, then it would be wrong. (when there's different cases available, obviously the Bhutan flag is unique and thus it's all related to itself)
As afterall, the rainbow is linked with south america indians, peace movement in Italy (if not wrong) etc...however one use took over the others and that's where is my problem.

PS: oh this thread got moved in debate section..

[Mister Sandman]

I'm curious why people focus all the time on the derogative use of what rainbow represents.
It's meant to be something beautiful representing unity and peace, and also something to admire on the sky when you see it, not something negative.
It's been so for hundred of years, and I don't see why it should change. But nowadays, rainbow and its symbols are used for negative meanings and positive ones are constantly avoided.

Same with the swastika, gone with the good old days where it symbolised the sun..

[Brdavs]

Ironically, same with the cross.

[Z E R O]

Gah, pops, I like you, but you are very ignorant.

Use a rainbow, if anyone asks if it's gay related, simply tell them it's not. End of scenario.

The way you imply That gay is a derogatory thing, to me suggests you are promoting homophobia. Because gay is NOT derogatory, because being gay is NOT a bad thing. Maybe you would understand if you had been BORN gay like the rest of the people that are gay, and had been tormented and abused by people like you throughout your life. Simply because of who you are. Being gay is a part of a person's identity, and to claim that something being related to homosexuality is derogatory, then you are as Thriller said, a bigot, and very ignorant.

[Legendary Apophis]

Gah, pops, I like you, but you are very ignorant.

Use a rainbow, if anyone asks if it's gay related, simply tell them it's not. End of scenario.

The way you imply That gay is a derogatory thing, to me suggests you are promoting homophobia. Because gay is NOT derogatory, because being gay is NOT a bad thing. Maybe you would understand if you had been BORN gay like the rest of the people that are gay, and had been tormented and abused by people like you throughout your life. Simply because of who you are. Being gay is a part of a person's identity, and to claim that something being related to homosexuality is derogatory, then you are as Thriller said, a bigot, and very ignorant.

Since you are all going crazy ways into misunderstanding my thread, I'll tell you why I made it.
Recently, I had to make a sig in a sig contest in sgaw. I was thinking about my earliest sigs, and remembered that once, I made a sig with a rainbow on the borders, I liked this sig, and showed it to someone who told me "It has a rainbow - meaning I should change it - " Probably because some people would use their translator and think it was homo related. Also, I saw the linkage on this forum quite often that rainbow=homo. It's not the fact rainbow is used by homos that is a problem, but the focus that you north americans do with rainbows. It's like totally related to homos. Like if it was a synonym. That, is my problem.

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Ironically, same with the cross.

Iron Cross?

[Z E R O]

Gah, pops, I like you, but you are very ignorant.

Use a rainbow, if anyone asks if it's gay related, simply tell them it's not. End of scenario.

The way you imply That gay is a derogatory thing, to me suggests you are promoting homophobia. Because gay is NOT derogatory, because being gay is NOT a bad thing. Maybe you would understand if you had been BORN gay like the rest of the people that are gay, and had been tormented and abused by people like you throughout your life. Simply because of who you are. Being gay is a part of a person's identity, and to claim that something being related to homosexuality is derogatory, then you are as Thriller said, a bigot, and very ignorant.

Since you are all going crazy ways into misunderstanding my thread, I'll tell you why I made it.
Recently, I had to make a sig in a sig contest in sgaw. I was thinking about my earliest sigs, and remembered that once, I made a sig with a rainbow on the borders, I liked this sig, and showed it to someone who told me "It has a rainbow - meaning I should change it - " Probably because some people would use their translator and think it was homo related. Also, I saw the linkage on this forum quite often that rainbow=homo. It's not the fact rainbow is used by homos that is a problem, but the focus that you north americans do with rainbows. It's like totally related to homos. Like if it was a synonym. That, is my problem.

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Ironically, same with the cross.

Iron Cross?

Tell me jim, what exactly did your quote prove. As I read it you have some sort of problem with a rainbow being used for a gay thing, why should that be a probablem if homosexuality does not offend you. It's a gay thing, yes, but it doesn't have to be, it can still simply mean the spectrum of colours gotten from a ray of light. Take whatever context you will. It's your own problem if you find it offensive that rainbows are gay. Something else could symbolize homosexuality, would that offend you too?

[Legendary Apophis]

I give up..
I'm not in the mood of arguing today.

[Z E R O]

I give up..
I'm not in the mood of arguing today.

WOah....

I did not expect this.

[Juliette]

Ironically, same with the cross.

When did the cross ever have a positive connotation? It never changed from being a symbol of torture and murder and/or the appreciation of those, as far as I know.