And is it any wonder new players give up?

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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

Ghoul wrote:A new player by the name of requiem949 has been playing for all of about two weeks. He has been trying really hard to grow and become active by doing lots of Raiding and the like.

Last night he hit a player in Dominium Ex Malus who has no defence etc and got some good raids on him. Requiem949 wouldn't know about the whole 'hit a player in the wrong alliance and you'll be sorry' jazz.

Now this morning Wrath of Achilles [ Dominium ex Malus - Descendz0r] has completely massed out his hard work of his entire playing time. A simple look at his ID would have revealed that he is very new, his small army size and being in 'Torchwood' an alliance for new players to learn the game and build should have reinforced that.

A simple message to a new player would have corrected the whole thing. He would know then to avoid this alliance and could possibly arrange reparations when he gets market status from his 1001 GnR which he was working so hard to get. Instead he will next log into his account and may very well leave the game.

I expect to be massed by this Wrath of Achilles [ Dominium ex Malus - Descendz0r] as well as I have dared to send a message to them pointing this out but then again, is it any wonder new players give up when this happens?



Instead of posting long topics on the forums you could have used your time better in telling the guy who he should or shouldn't hit.

I remember when I started, my long time mentor gave me a break up of the ingame politics and let me decide for myself who I can hit and which hits are to be avoided no matter how tasty they look at first. It served me well, as I had a time of relative peace in that I could built up, get SS and my first ascensions done.
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

It's just a game and we are all victims of 1 hit love ;)
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

Wrath of Achilles is just a maniac and a bully lol :P

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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

DDE are evil and must be punished. [-(
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

GrizzZzzly wrote:DDE are evil and must be punished. [-(


Evil does not die ... it multiplies 8)
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

deni wrote:
GrizzZzzly wrote:DDE are evil and must be punished. [-(


Evil does not die ... it multiplies 8)

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[TL]Brdavs says:
I reckon his mum gonna get him socks and stuff
time for me to step up :P
keep the childhood rolling
you know its over when you start getting underwear for christmas
I still tear up when I remember when my childhood ended like that
poof
one year legos
next year "brdavs, you`re 23 dont you think youre a bit old for legos now"
brutal I tell you
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Mordack wrote:Personally, I am not a huge fan of life. I am of the general opinion that, from start to finish, it's painful and miserable; and that anybody that tells you differently is either trying to have sex with you or sell or you something.

Similarly, I believe that people in general are inherently flawed. Deep down, we are programmed to hurt one another; either physically or emotionally. People are naturally selfish and greedy; governed more by bestial urges than common sense or ethics. Society is a terrible thing, too. The more supposedly civilized we become, the more immorality and decadence become the main staple of our daily diet.

Before Lost concluded, my main flippant excuse for not killing myself was that I wanted to know how it ended. I will get back to you with a new one when I find it.
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EPA BMMJ13 says:
:(
you should go eat
like 30 of them 32 oz steaks
Stanley says:
im stuffed right now
EPA BMMJ13 says:
store them in your cheeks for later
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

it doesnt take you long in this game to realise the people you can and cannot hit, if you have been playing for two weeks and dont know then you havent been paying enough attention !! i quickly found out and just got on with it, no point going on about it, pick yourself up, learn form it and move on !!!!
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

Doesn't work that way for everybody...everybody is different.

Dude tell your mate he can broker me for some UU if he wants.
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

Well since ur buddy doesnt have "Supporter Status" -

have him add me to msn - ibac224@hotmail.com

If anything i can send him direct some resources to get back to where he was - and continue on -

granted in this game communication is key,

you might want to inform him of proper targets to farm - as to me most farms have little or no defense and also have no alliance ties - so things like this dont happen - lol.
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

Talk to the DxM guys...Not all are bad, and generally most are friendly and are willing to talk it out..Just dont come with a stupid approach...
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

bebita wrote:
Psi Kiya Trist wrote:
bebita wrote:he knows more then "5 years players"?
definitly ;)


hey, just cause i've never actually successfully massed anyone...

i mean... *goes all shifty eyed*

move along now, move along.

when u actually will play then post ;)


or i could keep just randomly sending people both my UU and Turns :-p
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

Ghoul wrote:A new player by the name of requiem949 has been playing for all of about two weeks. He has been trying really hard to grow and become active by doing lots of Raiding and the like.

Last night he hit a player in Dominium Ex Malus who has no defence etc and got some good raids on him. Requiem949 wouldn't know about the whole 'hit a player in the wrong alliance and you'll be sorry' jazz.

Now this morning Wrath of Achilles [ Dominium ex Malus - Descendz0r] has completely massed out his hard work of his entire playing time. A simple look at his ID would have revealed that he is very new, his small army size and being in 'Torchwood' an alliance for new players to learn the game and build should have reinforced that.

A simple message to a new player would have corrected the whole thing. He would know then to avoid this alliance and could possibly arrange reparations when he gets market status from his 1001 GnR which he was working so hard to get. Instead he will next log into his account and may very well leave the game.

I expect to be massed by this Wrath of Achilles [ Dominium ex Malus - Descendz0r] as well as I have dared to send a message to them pointing this out but then again, is it any wonder new players give up when this happens?

Ghoul, next time contact me. :D
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

Much as Id like to go on 'bullying empire' rant, truth is most of us have massed a noob at some point cause they hit us, or hit our allies, or just having a bad day. It happens, it's bad and maybe disheartening for the noob in question, but frankly there are far worse things wrong with the game likely to drive out new players. And if this guy is in Torchwood a new player training alliance, then the training & guidance is seriously lacking if it dont cover which alliances are likely to retaliate over minor things like raiding or naq hits.
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

the earliest some gets introduced to the massing game the better it makes or breaks players i got massed like the first month i played iam still here so it will show who is good enough to play this game
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Re: And is it any wonder new players give up?

I used to get massed when I first started everytime I reached 1 mill or 3 mil size. This was over 3 years ago.
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