where is the consistancy?

[Clarkey]

Remember that on most forums on the internet, you would loose signatures permanently if you were to break signature rules, if not get banned. Here the most you will (under normal circumstances) get is a warning and loose signature for a short time period.

On most forums? You realise how many forums there are? Are you members of most of them or have you made that idea up?

Oh, and most of those suggestions of yours are already usually used. It depends on the case and the time available to the administrators how much they are used...

Oh, and about how bad we are? The forum staff is Evil. We do not deny it. We do not hide it. We make it obvious to all. Live with it, or die of it.

So what proof is there that Femme read the verbal notice in those 90 minutes? What proof is there that Femme was (or was going to be) non-compliant? What was the urgency of the situation? These are questions that you and Ear either purposely ignore or just refuse to answer.

[Empy]

My recommendation is to implement the 24 hr notice to the rule and make it so that the user committing the sig violation is PM'd stating they have 24hrs to correct their sig or they receive the appropriate punishment.

IF the user logs in, reads the PM and does not reply, which the Mod in question can tell if the PM has been read or not, then 24hrs later is still the same situation then punishment is issued.

IF the user logs in, reads the PM and discusses it with the Mod in question like I did with you and the Mod or Admin sticks to their ground and the sig is still not changed after 24hrs from the point the PM was sent, then punishment should be issued.

IF the user does not log in to see the PM and it has been 24hrs since the PM was sent then the Mod (or should I say Admin) should remove the rule violating sig, however, not issue the sig o' shame and not take away sig rights. If that user returns and puts their sig back then punishment is handled.

I'll just respond to this part even though I though all of what you said was good. I personally agree with an amendment along these lines to the rule and will bring it up for discussion. I wasn't involved with and cannot change what happened in the past in regards to this though..

[Thriller]

Yes, I was biased against you, for well known reasons. Yes, I fought the Admin staff at everyturn and in the end, my opinions on the matter came out to be true.

On the other hand Clakery, I did do my fair share of constructive posts, I spent time proposing new ways to change the system that you continue to call flawed. In the end, you will only get the same answer, if its not broken, dont fix it.

I wish to god I had the power to ban you Clarkey, the fact that we have to see you utter the tiresome words about mods are being biased. Mods are not doing there job. Im sorry Clarkey, are you feeling as though you can do a better job? Oh wait, you had your shot, and your lucky to even still have the right to post on here. BTW, I have every right in the world to call you out and bash you till the end of time. Why? Do you see me mistreating you as a mod? Hell, I dont even bother with you.

I gave you the best advice one can give to someone in your position, just stop posting.

This right here is what i hate to see from people you are supposed to maintain the forum.

It's antagonising, childish and uncontructive to the topic.

if you had your way the forum would be a terrible place, since all your ideas are way to authoritative and ultimately self defeating,

The forum would be far better off if you were fired in my opinion. It does not need self satisfying people like you; who are unable to deal with critisism and exault themselves as an expert on moral authority.

[Psi Kiya Trist]

deleting posts for fun.

That's up to Solus (or the Admins) since it only happens in the Temple (and they're moved/edited, to be precise).

there is currently a project underway in the temple to make it possible for a reverse nuke to be deployed again, unfortuantely, most of the misc section mods(including me previously) used the temple dump to remove rule violations as well as the spam nukes. we have to filter out all the rule violations before we can consider a reverse nuke.

now: femme's sig issue.
from my position as an ex-admin, i think both parties are in the wrong.
sig violated rules, yes. argument for differant forum skins is straw man.
warning was posted, yes. validity of user reading said warning is flawed.

the only time you can PROVE that a user has had a chance to read something, is via PM. when it moves from outbox, to sent box.

in the case of a public post warning, i would wait far longer than 90 minutes, as most forums i've been to don't expect replies before a day. sure, most get ones before then, but it's not shocking if you don't get one before then.

based on this opinion, i believe it's only fair that both sides apologize to each other, and part, if not all, of the restriction on femme's sig be removed. However, as only an "ex-admin", i acknowledge that my advice may, or may not be accepted, and carried out.

[Thriller]

As I have said it time and time again, I can speak how I wish to anyone on these forums, and not care the least how it makes you feel. I mod unbiased, I do my job with care and dedication. Its done 110% effort every time.

Anyways, I must agree that warning a user after only 90 minutes of time, is well, being an ass. It has not been set for a given time, perhaps it should be, just to eliminate the need for Clarkey to post further, then again, we can always ban him.

Thriller, judge me, hate me, idc, it makes no difference to me. If im fired, then it just means I didn't work hard enough the first time and must learn and move on. Unlike you, I treat my modship for what it is, just a job. I wont make a scene like you, nor Clarkey if I lose it. Perhaps you should spend more time in exile contemplating the time you had as a mod and how it was just wasted time instead of time spent bettering the forum or trying to institute change then.

yah, your petty remarks obviously show you don't care.

and i kinda like the term exile

You know the other moderators laugh at you behind your back right?

[RoKeT]

Boys Boys Boys

I am here to save the day!!!


Mods try there best, Sometimes I like to believe they don't as it would make life so much easier, but they hate us all equally, with the exception of Clarkey I think they hate him the most, pure jealousy that is I think but not quite sure

anyways

EVERYONE Lets unite and save this damn forum, DOES NO ONE SEE EVERYONE LEAVING!!!

how bout instead of attacking everyone we work together and save this damn forum!

[Thriller]

Good for them. Im sure we all talk **Filtered** about each other behind each others backs, or have a good laugh at each others mistakes or just plain well yea.

Your petty insults to me are a very sad attempt at getting me worked up. I laugh at you and your poor excuse for a life to argue with me.

you still continue your abhorrent attitude.

It is beyond me why you are still a moderator.

You have never demonstrated anything other than an uncaring, petty and self aggrandizing attitude in everything you've done around here.

[Thriller]

Ah, judging me souly on what I say as a user?

Tisk tisk.

Someday you will understand that we as mods still have the freedom to act as we please. Guess you didnt get that memo when you were a mod?

Don't worry. You'll grow up one day and the responsibility coming with that will crush you into a pile of filth.

[Empy]

C'mon now.. you both know better. Stop you're little argument please.

~Empy

[Thriller]

I was speaking to a moderator in the Talk to the Mods Direct section.

You would think if i was doing something wrong he would have informed me.

But i understand empy, i'll stop.

[Clarkey]

Anyways, I must agree that warning a user after only 90 minutes of time, is well, being an ass. It has not been set for a given time, perhaps it should be, just to eliminate the need for Clarkey to post further, then again, we can always ban him.

Let's get something straight, Femme was not warned. her sig was given the sig o' shame. let's not confuse the situation with warnings.

My recommendation for 24hrs notice in all sig violations is a good idea and you know it Tetris. You know how i know you know it? Because you yourself use the 24hr time frame already when it isn't even in the rules, as many others do too. So please don't make such remarks about eliminating my need to post further.

As I have said it time and time again, I can speak how I wish to anyone on these forums, and not care the least how it makes you feel. I mod unbiased, I do my job with care and dedication. Its done 110% effort every time.

We all know that isn't true. I guess you blotted that episode from your memory.

Ah, judging me souly on what I say as a user?

I've noticed on many occasions that sometimes Mods mod without colour, therefore the argument you are talking as a user can sometimes be flawed.

@Empy thank you for your constructive response. I'll leave the 24hr thing in the hands of those that can take the idea forward.