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Warned for an part of my post... ??!

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» This is a warning regarding the following post made by you: viewtopic.php?f=135&p=2192158#p2192158

"Mh cried to Jason for an idiot update (granted, unlimited repairs was too much, but just 1x turn?)"

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However, my whole post was the following:

't was fun for me, till the moment my bank started running empty, Mh cried to Jason for an idiot update (granted, unlimited repairs was too much, but just 1x turn?) and Feri bought his entire account again for the 3-4x time in a week or so


So... something isn't right here :-k
More funny part is also that in said topic ONLY TL-members got warned. Bias much?
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[TL] Renegadze zegt:
yeah definately makes more sense you hitting
and I have no DMU as you keep robbing it
MERC 1 zegt:
shuld not leave it out
any way you cant prove nothing
[TL] Michael/BenjaminMS zegt:
meh Rene, just find a few 0-def farms with 300+ tril DMU out...
MERC 1 zegt:
cool you two take it then i will hit you
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

Interesting to see a mod complaining to the ombudsman instead of going the proper way and ask the section GM or the administrators about a clarification.

More interesting to see a mod accusing his fellow mods of bias.
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

That's since I've got proof (but that is reserved for Jason) that half of the admin team and part of the GMs are actively modding when they aren't allowed (admins) or are actively biased modding (GMs). So...
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BenjaminMS - 'A thief of roses'
[TL] Renegadze zegt:
yeah definately makes more sense you hitting
and I have no DMU as you keep robbing it
MERC 1 zegt:
shuld not leave it out
any way you cant prove nothing
[TL] Michael/BenjaminMS zegt:
meh Rene, just find a few 0-def farms with 300+ tril DMU out...
MERC 1 zegt:
cool you two take it then i will hit you
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

BenjaminMS wrote:That's since I've got proof (but that is reserved for Jason) that half of the admin team and part of the GMs are actively modding when they aren't allowed (admins) or are actively biased modding (GMs). So...




The only admin who is not modding is Bazsy and that is because he choose not to mod. That's one of the perks that comes with the job - we can mod, but we do not have to ;)

Further, I still miss the pm or a post where you have come to us trying to talk about the supposed biased Global Mods. But I guess all of this is not because you want to help the team better itself but because of the 5 mins of fame you will get.


I will talk to the other admins, but as far as I go - consider your fired.

I do not care if a mod makes mistakes. We all have been wrong and we have tried to better us. What I cannot stand is a supposed team member badmouthing the team.

PS: About the warning - get someone who is not biased against you to deal with it. Cause I know I am now, so I will refrain from a comment and leave it in the hands of the other admins.
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

Yawn, so much off topic bickering. [-X

I don't see a problem with the post. It was on topic as far as I am concerned. Maybe Mordack will disagree or someone will convince me otherwise.
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

deni wrote:
BenjaminMS wrote:That's since I've got proof (but that is reserved for Jason) that half of the admin team and part of the GMs are actively modding when they aren't allowed (admins) or are actively biased modding (GMs). So...




The only admin who is not modding is Bazsy and that is because he choose not to mod. That's one of the perks that comes with the job - we can mod, but we do not have to ;)


You're so wrong there. Read the rules. Admins are ONLY allowed to mod if the post or activity immidiately threathens the integrity of the forums - aka, attempts to hack etc. Not simple posts.

deni wrote:Further, I still miss the pm or a post where you have come to us trying to talk about the supposed biased Global Mods. But I guess all of this is not because you want to help the team better itself but because of the 5 mins of fame you will get.


I will talk to the other admins, but as far as I go - consider your fired.

I do not care if a mod makes mistakes. We all have been wrong and we have tried to better us. What I cannot stand is a supposed team member badmouthing the team.

PS: About the warning - get someone who is not biased against you to deal with it. Cause I know I am now, so I will refrain from a comment and leave it in the hands of the other admins.


Whatever. I knew you were biased (one of the admins I saw actively modding both a certain Bug-topic and the TL vs Mh-wartopic was you), and **Filtered** happens. A part of the mod teams was showing their true colours anyway, and glad I am no longer part of it.

@ Jack, thanks. This will likely be my last post in this topic...
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smile at the roses,
before they're gone/


BenjaminMS - 'A thief of roses'
[TL] Renegadze zegt:
yeah definately makes more sense you hitting
and I have no DMU as you keep robbing it
MERC 1 zegt:
shuld not leave it out
any way you cant prove nothing
[TL] Michael/BenjaminMS zegt:
meh Rene, just find a few 0-def farms with 300+ tril DMU out...
MERC 1 zegt:
cool you two take it then i will hit you
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

Edweirdo wrote:
Andariel wrote:orly? lols. have fun all.


OMG!!! J...is that really you?

GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE MISTER! :-D


page 34. Did he get a warning?

Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:Attacking Mercenaries -286,367

You guys broke the Market :sad:


page 34 again. Did empy get a warning?
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

BenjaminMS wrote:
deni wrote:
BenjaminMS wrote:That's since I've got proof (but that is reserved for Jason) that half of the admin team and part of the GMs are actively modding when they aren't allowed (admins) or are actively biased modding (GMs). So...




The only admin who is not modding is Bazsy and that is because he choose not to mod. That's one of the perks that comes with the job - we can mod, but we do not have to ;)


You're so wrong there. Read the rules. Admins are ONLY allowed to mod if the post or activity immidiately threathens the integrity of the forums - aka, attempts to hack etc. Not simple posts.


deni wrote:Further, I still miss the pm or a post where you have come to us trying to talk about the supposed biased Global Mods. But I guess all of this is not because you want to help the team better itself but because of the 5 mins of fame you will get.


I will talk to the other admins, but as far as I go - consider your fired.

I do not care if a mod makes mistakes. We all have been wrong and we have tried to better us. What I cannot stand is a supposed team member badmouthing the team.

PS: About the warning - get someone who is not biased against you to deal with it. Cause I know I am now, so I will refrain from a comment and leave it in the hands of the other admins.


Whatever. I knew you were biased (one of the admins I saw actively modding both a certain Bug-topic and the TL vs Mh-wartopic was you), and **Filtered** happens. A part of the mod teams was showing their true colours anyway, and glad I am no longer part of it.


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@ Jack, thanks. This will likely be my last post in this topic...


Please point me to that rules. Because in my active time in this forum I have not see them.


[irony]
And OMG! An admin closed a report! They split an off topic post! Insolence!

Where is this forum going now!!!!1111
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I suggest you take a better look at the mod logs while you still have access to them. It will prevent you to look foolish ;)
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

Just to butt in...

Empy's post was actually completely relevant to the topic, the negative mercs were a direct cause of our war.

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Edweirdo wrote:
Andariel wrote:orly? lols. have fun all.


OMG!!! J...is that really you?

GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE MISTER! :-D


page 34. Did he get a warning?

Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:Attacking Mercenaries -286,367

You guys broke the Market :sad:


page 34 again. Did empy get a warning?
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

There you go Deni, as you requested (quoted Forum here):

FORUM ADMINS (currently 3 of them):
overall job role: to manage the forums (catagories, rules, etc), and the mods.

They can set the rules they deem best, although with any large decision, group discussion and agreement is key to success.

They can elect/select/hire/designate any mods they wish, in any capacity, any section. They can also give them responsibility for sub-mods, if they so choose. Likewise, they can un-elect, un-select or fire/undesignate -or change- the role, responsibility, section, status, etc of any mod at any time.

What I do not see as their role, is modding users/topics. The mods should be doing this, and if they are not, see above The only exception I forsee is 'very bad' content that must be removed immediately. They can do so, then hand over the punish/ban/cleanup to the mod(s) responsible....

They can elect a new forum admin.

The actions above, where it comes to: mod hire/discipline/fire; forum catagory level change or greater; new forum admin; rule changes --- it requires 2 of the 3 mods to agree. Again, any large change a previous discussion and/or 3 admins agreeing is going to work a lot more smoothly, but is not a requirement....


And most funny is, I've been keeping tabs the past days, and you were mostly involved in the GC and Bug-topic.
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[TL] Renegadze zegt:
yeah definately makes more sense you hitting
and I have no DMU as you keep robbing it
MERC 1 zegt:
shuld not leave it out
any way you cant prove nothing
[TL] Michael/BenjaminMS zegt:
meh Rene, just find a few 0-def farms with 300+ tril DMU out...
MERC 1 zegt:
cool you two take it then i will hit you
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

Question to the group and or helpful place for the oms to start, was that warning given before or after the mods said to stop talking about the update? Notices were put in several threads about it and spam...
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

BenjaminMS wrote:You're so wrong there. Read the rules. Admins are ONLY allowed to mod if the post or activity immidiately threathens the integrity of the forums - aka, attempts to hack etc. Not simple posts.

Admins can do as they wish. Get this, it's going to completely blow your mind, but they are admins. Amazing isn't it?
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

BenjaminMS wrote:There you go Deni, as you requested (quoted Forum here):

FORUM ADMINS (currently 3 of them):
overall job role: to manage the forums (catagories, rules, etc), and the mods.

They can set the rules they deem best, although with any large decision, group discussion and agreement is key to success.

They can elect/select/hire/designate any mods they wish, in any capacity, any section. They can also give them responsibility for sub-mods, if they so choose. Likewise, they can un-elect, un-select or fire/undesignate -or change- the role, responsibility, section, status, etc of any mod at any time.

What I do not see as their role, is modding users/topics. The mods should be doing this, and if they are not, see above The only exception I forsee is 'very bad' content that must be removed immediately. They can do so, then hand over the punish/ban/cleanup to the mod(s) responsible....

They can elect a new forum admin.

The actions above, where it comes to: mod hire/discipline/fire; forum catagory level change or greater; new forum admin; rule changes --- it requires 2 of the 3 mods to agree. Again, any large change a previous discussion and/or 3 admins agreeing is going to work a lot more smoothly, but is not a requirement....


And most funny is, I've been keeping tabs the past days, and you were mostly involved in the GC and Bug-topic.



You were keeping tabs on me? :smt082


Interesting that you did manage to read a post Jason made a few years go (and failed to understand it as you do lack the background), but you did not read all the posts about the team behaviour or about posting content from the closed mod forums in public.


But I will say it again: Admins DOmod when they see fit. It is entirely up to them. If there is a lack of mods available to deal with issues for example, admins deal with that. Considering that the current head of the General Section is away, the General team is undermanned, the admins deal with issues so the work load of the blue mods is still manageable.

About the mh/TLE -topic. Do you really want me to post the logs of my actions and risk you look even more foolish?

Do you?

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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

@dr. House

Admin gary disagrees....

Also isnt this topic about a warning that shouldnt be?
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Re: Warned for an part of my post... ??!

Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:I will quote another post of mine here, so that you all can see it.
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:It's quite simple to understand, MAYHEM AND THE LEGION, the entire forum is not your own personal Galactic Colosseum. The sooner you can understand that, the less warnings you will get.

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BenjaminMS wrote:'t was fun for me, till the moment my bank started running empty, Mh cried to Jason for an idiot update (granted, unlimited repairs was too much, but just 1x turn?) and Feri bought his entire account again for the 3-4x time in a week or so [-(


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Noobert wrote:Kikaz scares me at times, and he's in my own alliance.
Dr. House wrote:I HAVE THE POWER! The power to warn, and I will **Filtered** use it too.
Kateaclysmic wrote: I thought you loved me, Kikaz. I'm getting an abortion.
Sarevok wrote:
Kikaz wrote:Ridiculous.
Congrats on the most constructive post ever...
Affirmation wrote: And Speaking of bad boys (the baddest)... Kikaz is right, Q is a family, and Affy is the love child of Kikaz and Kateaclysmic!! That is right... I am NOT AN ABORTION... but she never nursed me and Kikaz stopped being a terrible father figure to Affy years ago... Family - HA... Affy's old arse...[-X

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I rise up at night
I live just inside you
And give you a terrible fright
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I creep up in the shed.
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I follow you anywhere
I rip your braveness apart
And never ever care
I am fear so don't come near..
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