So what?

[GOLDEN WING]

but not in any profitable way

[caesar2]

I remember ppl thinking yoyo's def would take some doing, but it fell in the end.

They do not even compare to each other, at all.

Yoyo build his Def(s) when the game was attack oriented.
C2 has his def now when Jason turned the tables and made it a def oriented game, with alliance ppt's and repairs as well

Ahm, man you must be blinde. I built 20T defencein war with omega, kept it for week, than made it 25T. after war i started to boost it. intime updates came alive.

And few vendetas i started when i had 5T defence, those few brave guys let me built to 110T.

mags, well i saw your defo is more than half of mine nice one. And sure 1 player cant mass it, but thast the spirit of my vendetas, mod can marge it all and they can teamup

If many of you says I picked targets who cant mass me, how you would deal with this kind of players? To hit alliance, to mass some player, they have balls big enough. When I come, where are those balls? I dont understand it.

[Tek]

but not in any profitable way

Profits overrated

Sheer satisfaction is its own reward. I imagine The team that take it down eventually will share a cigar and an awkward how was it for you moment when they finish.

Anyway, at least C2 can't be called a sniper with a D that size

[Reschef]

I remember ppl thinking yoyo's def would take some doing, but it fell in the end.

They do not even compare to each other, at all.

Yoyo build his Def(s) when the game was attack oriented.
C2 has his def now when Jason turned the tables and made it a def oriented game, with alliance ppt's and repairs as well

Ahm, man you must be blinde. I built 20T defencein war with omega, kept it for week, than made it 25T. after war i started to boost it. intime updates came alive.

And few vendetas i started when i had 5T defence, those few brave guys let me built to 110T.

You totally failed to see my point.

Yoyo made and kept his def for a nice period of time BEFORE any of the defence orientated updates came out, i'm sure if he was here and built it again 1) it's be bigger due to the new calculations/ratios and 2) it'd of lasted a lot longer.

plus a big part of yoyo's deff came from his planets, I'm not sure but I strongly doubt that's the case with C2's deff as planets are less powerfull then before.

[Empy]

I liken it to the USA declaring war on Slovakia... not really a fair match is it? Slovakia can't do much to the USA considering their defense, but the USA can just take down Slovakia at their leisure and do whatever.

People are mad because what are they supposed to do? Nothing they can do. Despite what you say unless TPP went to war against DDE or OE or TL or maybe MaYHeM and not just random players from different alliances it's not going down. One person can do literally nothing to you but you're free to mass them at your leisure, would it not be a little frustrating to be the powerless one?

[~Coyle~]

Rock on Ceasar!

[Crosis]

I liken it to the USA declaring war on Slovakia... not really a fair match is it? Slovakia can't do much to the USA considering their defense, but the USA can just take down Slovakia at their leisure and do whatever.

People are mad because what are they supposed to do? Nothing they can do. Despite what you say unless TPP went to war against DDE or OE or TL or maybe MaYHeM and not just random players from different alliances it's not going down. One person can do literally nothing to you but you're free to mass them at your leisure, would it not be a little frustrating to be the powerless one?

+1

[Wepwaet]

I remember ppl thinking yoyo's def would take some doing, but it fell in the end.

They do not even compare to each other, at all.

Yoyo build his Def(s) when the game was attack oriented.
C2 has his def now when Jason turned the tables and made it a def oriented game, with alliance ppt's and repairs as well

Ahm, man you must be blinde. I built 20T defencein war with omega, kept it for week, than made it 25T. after war i started to boost it. intime updates came alive.

And few vendetas i started when i had 5T defence, those few brave guys let me built to 110T.

You totally failed to see my point.

Yoyo made and kept his def for a nice period of time BEFORE any of the defence orientated updates came out, i'm sure if he was here and built it again 1) it's be bigger due to the new calculations/ratios and 2) it'd of lasted a lot longer.

plus a big part of yoyo's deff came from his planets, I'm not sure but I strongly doubt that's the case with C2's deff as planets are less powerfull then before.

Something tells me you aren't quite getting the scales of the defenses that are being talked about When talking about defenses the size of yoyo's in the past and C2's in the present, 1t from planets is nothing. You know I just realized that with strikes and defenses having doubled, yoyo's defenses wouldn't have been much less than C2's is now...

[RedneckRebel]

Really i think everyone of them should leave their respected alliances temporarily join a private Screw c2 alliance and destroy your defense cause honestly nothing is impossible i respect that you built it i respect that we are not at war but if they were smart and joined forces they could do damage i mean ive seen like 20 vendettas with your name on it But they are thinking they gotta do it alone cause unlike me if the vendetta doesnt reffer to them they stay away Anyway gl just kill someone


just not me ok

[Reschef]

plus a big part of yoyo's deff came from his planets, I'm not sure but I strongly doubt that's the case with C2's deff as planets are less powerfull then before.

Something tells me you aren't quite getting the scales of the defenses that are being talked about When talking about defenses the size of yoyo's in the past and C2's in the present, 1t from planets is nothing. You know I just realized that with strikes and defenses having doubled, yoyo's defenses wouldn't have been much less than C2's is now...

my alliance was fighting yoyo's account (I believe he gave it to his brother or something) some time after the deff was down and he had some nice large defenses with just a few defenders, I believe it were at least 2-3 tril coming from planets, that would have only been like 5-10% or something of his original deff, but still more (%-wise) then C2 got from his planets right now. (at least that's what I'm guessing)

[BMMJ13]

I had thought, like C2 said, he was at war with Omega when he first started building it, and had a 20-25 tril defense while at war with Omega. With that it was shown that even a small defense like 20-25 tril was very hard to take down when the defender is active.

I believe the same thing happened with yoyo, at most he had 5 tril from planets (above a certain point and planets/motherships don't really matter as much), and his defense had to be like 40-45 tril in pre-update numbers (would be 80-90 now), yet because of how active he was (and his side's support) it was much harder to take down. Even though this was prior to the more defense oriented/friendly update, having so many people online at any one time across multiple alliances is a large help. In the end, the fact that the attacking side had a team behind them and the fact that yoyo did not set nox (at least one time)allowed the defense to be beaten.

Thanks to the new update, I don't believe c2 even needs a group backing him up, though I guess his alliance may help him, but I wouldn't know either way. With the new game mechanics, not only is it more expensive to mass someone, but it also takes longer, leading to someone with nox on and a defense that large being near impossible to take.

As for it being fair to declare a vendetta with a huge defense that you know no one could take easily and many couldn't at all, then no it's not fair. But a lot of this game could be described as that. C2 is also loosing quite a bit of income as well as flexibility by doing that, and as with most things, it's not of matter of if someone will take it down, it's just a matter of when...

[Wepwaet]

plus a big part of yoyo's deff came from his planets, I'm not sure but I strongly doubt that's the case with C2's deff as planets are less powerfull then before.

Something tells me you aren't quite getting the scales of the defenses that are being talked about When talking about defenses the size of yoyo's in the past and C2's in the present, 1t from planets is nothing. You know I just realized that with strikes and defenses having doubled, yoyo's defenses wouldn't have been much less than C2's is now...

my alliance was fighting yoyo's account (I believe he gave it to his brother or something) some time after the deff was down and he had some nice large defenses with just a few defenders, I believe it were at least 2-3 tril coming from planets, that would have only been like 5-10% or something of his original deff, but still more (%-wise) then C2 got from his planets right now. (at least that's what I'm guessing)

Yoyo had less than 2t, closer to 1t from planets. He was in Mayhem when he built them(defenses) remember, we know.

[caesar2]

Empy, you cant compare this game case with RL. USA will never declare war with Slovakia, cuse we dont have gas, petrol or diamonds. We have only lot of water, and US busines men here are very polite and mature. Also we are a part of the same coalition,, called NATO. Why should they declare war on allyes? Nvm, lets talk in bigger numbers. What would happen if USA decl;ares war on Germany? France? UK? The same case as with Slovakia, cuse those mentioned states dont have enough (or have 0) nuclear weapons or another tactical weapons. What would happen if China will declare war on Europe? Same scenario, cuse China have enough nuclear weapons and huge human potential. But many economics in world will fall, which will afect whole world. Please, dont compare RL situations with the game. You have maybe no idea what are you talking about. Buy Kisinger's book or Huntington's Clash of civilizations.

As for Yoyo, if i remember right, he would have around 85 - 90T defence these days.

Before updates massing was easy. Everyone was crying how easy it is. If I remmber right, huge part of forum comunity was whining on admin meets. So Jason made these updates.

I was alwys trying to prove some facts, now the fact is, massing is cripled if ONE player wants to teach the server.

Its time change tactics and work in teams, once again, like it was ages ago. Wasnt this the idea of updates?

Also, like i said, i know many cant mass me, but why are ppl writing posts in my vendeta topics and telling I have no honor? To not build stats before was dishonorable, to build stats now is dishonorable. So what is honorable?

[deni]

I love how the some of the most violent "$-spending sucks"-activists applaud c2 for buying spy 38 and building a 100 tril defense


The only question is - who will take ot down?

[caesar2]

Dont worry, I have a deal with one girl, she might mass it before christmass, if noone elese will do it