MaYHeM/DDE vs FS

[deni]

@ Deni, please try just for once to READ a post, and NOT totally mis-represent it's meaning in your reply. You wonder why no one in FS wanted to discuss the 7-v-7 with you, it's because of BS posts like those.

Well Mezzanine, my desire to talk to you or your fellow leadership staff is almost non existant, yet I tried assuming that your offer for an online fight was serious.

Apparently I was wrong and your previous posts only confirm that.

It was a serious suggestion made as a way of deciding a winner to this war, the moment YOU said it would not end the war the idea became pointless. Like I said many times DDE only fight when the odds are in your favor, I never made the suggestion, and personally never believed for a second you would allow a war to be decided by a fair fight so it came as no surprise that YOU were not up for it.

Do I see JT offering you a 7 vs him?

Do I see you refusing it?

Did I contact FS about the original suggestion?

Did FS ignore me "cause they do not like me"?


Everyone who can basic reading skills will answer those questions with "yes" and make up their mind of who is afraid of an onliner.




That's what I call a perfect example of shooting into your own foot. Priceless.

[kojak]

@ Deni, please try just for once to READ a post, and NOT totally mis-represent it's meaning in your reply. You wonder why no one in FS wanted to discuss the 7-v-7 with you, it's because of BS posts like those.

Well Mezzanine, my desire to talk to you or your fellow leadership staff is almost non existant, yet I tried assuming that your offer for an online fight was serious.

Apparently I was wrong and your previous posts only confirm that.

It was a serious suggestion made as a way of deciding a winner to this war, the moment YOU said it would not end the war the idea became pointless. Like I said many times DDE only fight when the odds are in your favor, I never made the suggestion, and personally never believed for a second you would allow a war to be decided by a fair fight so it came as no surprise that YOU were not up for it.

Are they not always

[deni]

Of course they are.

FS just hates us cause they know they cannot be like us

[MEZZANINE]

@ Deni, please try just for once to READ a post, and NOT totally mis-represent it's meaning in your reply. You wonder why no one in FS wanted to discuss the 7-v-7 with you, it's because of BS posts like those.

Well Mezzanine, my desire to talk to you or your fellow leadership staff is almost non existant, yet I tried assuming that your offer for an online fight was serious.

Apparently I was wrong and your previous posts only confirm that.

It was a serious suggestion made as a way of deciding a winner to this war, the moment YOU said it would not end the war the idea became pointless. Like I said many times DDE only fight when the odds are in your favor, I never made the suggestion, and personally never believed for a second you would allow a war to be decided by a fair fight so it came as no surprise that YOU were not up for it.

Do I see JT offering you a 7 vs him?

Do I see you refusing it?

Did I contact FS about the original suggestion?

Did FS ignore me "cause they do not like me"?


Everyone who can basic reading skills will answer those questions with "yes" and make up their mind of who is afraid of an onliner.




That's what I call a perfect example of shooting into your own foot. Priceless.

Did I not already say a FAIR fight, several equally matching accounts or at least the same number of higher/lower matches ?

Did I not already say, this was a war deciding suggestion, which YOU said clearly YOU would not agree to deciding or ending the war

Did I not already say, most the people in FS dont want to speak with you because of your BS, and the one who did volunteer to discuss with you just got a new job in RL and would contact you when he was free.

Yes actually Im sure I already said all those things very cleary, but YOU either dont read or deliberately twist and distort everything said in your replies

And as always when kills on DDE are posted you bury them in pages of BS

[MEZZANINE]

Of course they are.

FS just hates us cause they know they cannot be like us

How quickly you forget, it was not so long ago you wanted to absorb FS into DDE. fact is you gave us the choice be just like you and we said HELL NO

[deni]

@ Deni, please try just for once to READ a post, and NOT totally mis-represent it's meaning in your reply. You wonder why no one in FS wanted to discuss the 7-v-7 with you, it's because of BS posts like those.

Well Mezzanine, my desire to talk to you or your fellow leadership staff is almost non existant, yet I tried assuming that your offer for an online fight was serious.

Apparently I was wrong and your previous posts only confirm that.

It was a serious suggestion made as a way of deciding a winner to this war, the moment YOU said it would not end the war the idea became pointless. Like I said many times DDE only fight when the odds are in your favor, I never made the suggestion, and personally never believed for a second you would allow a war to be decided by a fair fight so it came as no surprise that YOU were not up for it.

Do I see JT offering you a 7 vs him?

Do I see you refusing it?

Did I contact FS about the original suggestion?

Did FS ignore me "cause they do not like me"?


Everyone who can basic reading skills will answer those questions with "yes" and make up their mind of who is afraid of an onliner.




That's what I call a perfect example of shooting into your own foot. Priceless.

Did I not already say a FAIR fight, several equally matching accounts or at least the same number of higher/lower matches ?

Did I not already say, this was a war deciding suggestion, which YOU said clearly YOU would not agree to deciding or ending the war

Did I not already say, most the people in FS dont want to speak with you because of your BS, and the one who did volunteer to discuss with you just got a new job in RL and would contact you when he was free.

Yes actually Im sure I already said all those things very cleary, but YOU either dont read or deliberately twist and distort everything said in your replies

And as always when kills on DDE are posted you bury them in pages of BS

I do not have anything to "distort" nor "twist" as you do all the twisting yourself - by twisting yourself out of your own suggestion.


Weak.

Of course they are.

FS just hates us cause they know they cannot be like us

How quickly you forget, it was not so long ago you wanted to absorb FS into DDE. fact is you gave us the choice be just like you and we said HELL NO

Now that is funny.

That you for conforming my words - you wanted to be like us, you got denied now you wallow in self pity.


Please refresh my memory, but do you refer to Easy & MLH approaching me about joining under DDE's banner as a separate alliance? About 3 years ago? So FS gets protection and falls under the FUALL NAP?

If you do want to join DDE, you do so under my terms. Not yours. How hard is that swallow?

[MEZZANINE]

Now that is funny.

That you for conforming my words - you wanted to be like us, you got denied now you wallow in self pity.


Please refresh my memory, but do you refer to Easy & MLH approaching me about joining under DDE's banner as a separate alliance? About 3 years ago?

If you do want to join DDE, you do so under my terms. Not yours. How hard is that swallow?

We were invited by a few members of FUALL to contact a FUALL HC member about server war options ( We were also contacted by several players on the other side ), upon contacting a FUALL HC member we were offered an wholly unacceptable and frankly insulting offer to be absorbed into DDE which we immediately turned down. We NEVER at any point desired to join under the DDE banner, we were simply exploring FUALL banner option the same as we were exploring TTF banner options when the server war was approaching.

I know you would like to re-write history, but history is written by the winners and you couldnt win a teddy bear in a fairground

[deni]

Now that is funny.

That you for conforming my words - you wanted to be like us, you got denied now you wallow in self pity.


Please refresh my memory, but do you refer to Easy & MLH approaching me about joining under DDE's banner as a separate alliance? About 3 years ago?

If you do want to join DDE, you do so under my terms. Not yours. How hard is that swallow?

We were invited by a few members of FUALL to contact a FUALL HC member about server war options ( We were also contacted by several players on the other side ), upon contacting a FUALL HC member we were offered an wholly unacceptable and frankly insulting offer to be absorbed into DDE which we immediately turned down. We NEVER at any point desired to join under the DDE banner, we were simply exploring FUALL banner option the same as we were exploring TTF banner options when the server war was approaching.

I know you would like to re-write history, but history is written by the winners and you couldnt win a teddy bear in a fairground

You sure about your statement? Because I do not remember you being in any of the convos I had with FS representatives.

I do not remember DDE HC approaching anyone from FS - on the contrary, I remember being approached by FS' leader and diplomat about a possible merger/absorption.

I know it hurts to be rejected, but it has been over 3 years now Mezzanine. Time to get over it finally, don't you think?

[jedi~tank]

FS= ....... Ya'll figure it out You got rejected by DDE and by TTF lol

[MEZZANINE]

Now that is funny.

That you for conforming my words - you wanted to be like us, you got denied now you wallow in self pity.


Please refresh my memory, but do you refer to Easy & MLH approaching me about joining under DDE's banner as a separate alliance? About 3 years ago?

If you do want to join DDE, you do so under my terms. Not yours. How hard is that swallow?

We were invited by a few members of FUALL to contact a FUALL HC member about server war options ( We were also contacted by several players on the other side ), upon contacting a FUALL HC member we were offered an wholly unacceptable and frankly insulting offer to be absorbed into DDE which we immediately turned down. We NEVER at any point desired to join under the DDE banner, we were simply exploring FUALL banner option the same as we were exploring TTF banner options when the server war was approaching.

I know you would like to re-write history, but history is written by the winners and you couldnt win a teddy bear in a fairground

You sure about your statement? Because I do not remember you being in any of the convos I had with FS representatives.

I do not remember DDE HC approaching anyone from FS - on the contrary, I remember being approached by FS' leader and diplomat about a possible merger/absorption.

I know it hurts to be rejected, but it has been over 3 years now Mezzanine. Time to get over it finally, don't you think?

OMG, sometimes when arguing with you if I dont know if I should bang my head against the wall or just burst out laughing.

It was FUALL HC we were invited to contact, somehow we ended up with you and you were meant to be representing FUALL not DDE. We never wanted to join DDE, we were simply exploring options as to which side we should take in the server war, nothing more. And you tried to turn it into a recruitment drive asking us to be absorbed into DDE.

Do you really believe what your saying ? You can reply in PM if you want to secret, Im just curious if this is propaganda or if you really believe it ???

You have no idea who insulted the FS membership were by your offer, it was put the vote as all major decisions are in FS are and it was unanimously rejected with some even wanting war or an apology over the insult.

[jedi~tank]

Why..if you want to be DDE you do so on DDE terms not yours..I do not think DDE was actually trying to recruit you then MEZZ..it was more a mandate or the only way you can be on our side is to become DDE...in other words it was a "get lost" type of thing LOL......anyways you got war and BTW...I spy with my Little eye..8 accounts in FS that could give me a winner take all right here and now..what ya say boys, lets partaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!

[deni]

Now that is funny.

That you for conforming my words - you wanted to be like us, you got denied now you wallow in self pity.


Please refresh my memory, but do you refer to Easy & MLH approaching me about joining under DDE's banner as a separate alliance? About 3 years ago?

If you do want to join DDE, you do so under my terms. Not yours. How hard is that swallow?

We were invited by a few members of FUALL to contact a FUALL HC member about server war options ( We were also contacted by several players on the other side ), upon contacting a FUALL HC member we were offered an wholly unacceptable and frankly insulting offer to be absorbed into DDE which we immediately turned down. We NEVER at any point desired to join under the DDE banner, we were simply exploring FUALL banner option the same as we were exploring TTF banner options when the server war was approaching.

I know you would like to re-write history, but history is written by the winners and you couldnt win a teddy bear in a fairground

You sure about your statement? Because I do not remember you being in any of the convos I had with FS representatives.

I do not remember DDE HC approaching anyone from FS - on the contrary, I remember being approached by FS' leader and diplomat about a possible merger/absorption.

I know it hurts to be rejected, but it has been over 3 years now Mezzanine. Time to get over it finally, don't you think?

OMG, sometimes when arguing with you if I dont know if I should bang my head against the wall or just burst out laughing.

It was FUALL HC we were invited to contact, somehow we ended up with you and you were meant to be representing FUALL not DDE. We never wanted to join DDE, we were simply exploring options as to which side we should take in the server war, nothing more. And you tried to turn it into a recruitment drive asking us to be absorbed into DDE.

Do you really believe what your saying ? You can reply in PM if you want to secret, Im just curious if this is propaganda or if you really believe it ???

You have no idea who insulted the FS membership were by your offer, it was put the vote as all major decisions are in FS are and it was unanimously rejected with some even wanting war or an apology over the insult.

I ask you again Mezzanine. Were you personally involved in any of the two conversations I had with representatives of FS' HC?

I do not remember you being there.

So I will spell it out for you: I was approached by FS' HC (namely Easy and MLH) about FS becoming an alliance of the Dark Dominium Empire. I was open to talks and laid out the conditions I deemed necessary for that to happen. In the process of the talks FS made it clear that they seek only the protection of the DDE name but were not willing to become a part of the DDE family. This was unacceptable so the talks ended.

I do not know how the convo was presented to you, but it would make you look less foolish if you actually read the logs of the conversation. I might even dig them up for you.

Further, you seem to be confused about the timeline too. FS did approach me about joining DDE (and thus FUALL) months if not a whole year before the server war started as it was even before DoO was founded.

So please Mezzanine, spare me your wishful thinking. I know believing to be "recruited" by DDE has a better ring than asking to be recruited. But that does not make it true.

[MEZZANINE]

@ Deni, You're are the one confused, I wasnt in that specific convo but I was HC, I saw the copy PMs inviting us to approach FUALL & TTF, and all the invites were in the month or so running up to the start of the server war when both sides were trying to get as many alliances/members as possible in preparation. I was also in the HC discussions as to what would be offered, and the feedback after each meeting. FS HC agreed that we should speak with both sides before deciding if we were going to be in the server war, and if so what side to take. As it happened your insulting offer put us off the FUALL side, and being under the old TLE ( which we had recently been at war with in the Zion fiasco ) put us off the TTF side, so we stayed out of the server war. We never wanted to join DDE, and the allegiances we did discuss/consider were only ever going to be short term for the duration of the server war.

@ JT, Im sure someone in DDE has an account equal to my own, same cover/AC/lifers etc. So why dont you swap with them for a day and face me on equal terms, see how tough you are without your $uper$ized account.

[jedi~tank]

@ Deni, You're are the one confused, I wasnt in that specific convo but I was HC, I saw the copy PMs inviting us to approach FUALL & TTF, and all the invites were in the month or so running up to the start of the server war when both sides were trying to get as many alliances/members as possible in preparation. I was also in the HC discussions as to what would be offered, and the feedback after each meeting. FS HC agreed that we should speak with both sides before deciding if we were going to be in the server war, and if so what side to take. As it happened your insulting offer put us off the FUALL side, and being under the old TLE ( which we had recently been at war with in the Zion fiasco ) put us off the TTF side, so we stayed out of the server war. We never wanted to join DDE, and the allegiances we did discuss/consider were only ever going to be short term for the duration of the server war.

@ JT, Im sure someone in DDE has an account equal to my own, same cover/AC/lifers etc. So why dont you swap with them for a day and face me on equal terms, see how tough you are without your $uper$ized account.

I have no problem with that..I have a better idea..why dont you get your c level up a notch, your 36 Im 37 and we will see how tough you are..and again with the $$ talk..you simply have no idea what you blab about If your guns aint as big as my guns dont cry get bigger ones..you couldnt beat me anyways before when I was up and coming what makes you think you can now? you skills have not improved old man you still play the same, you are slow.

[deni]

@ Deni, You're are the one confused, I wasnt in that specific convo but I was HC, I saw the copy PMs inviting us to approach FUALL & TTF, and all the invites were in the month or so running up to the start of the server war when both sides were trying to get as many alliances/members as possible in preparation. I was also in the HC discussions as to what would be offered, and the feedback after each meeting. FS HC agreed that we should speak with both sides before deciding if we were going to be in the server war, and if so what side to take. As it happened your insulting offer put us off the FUALL side, and being under the old TLE ( which we had recently been at war with in the Zion fiasco ) put us off the TTF side, so we stayed out of the server war. We never wanted to join DDE, and the allegiances we did discuss/consider were only ever going to be short term for the duration of the server war.

I do not remember having any conversations via PM with your representatives. Please remind me what I did say in those private messaged and who I did send them to?

I do remember the msn conversations though and they speak of a very different situation from the one you are describing above.

Have you seen those?