Galactic Council

[Jim]

Gets its own secret forum section? Since when does that happen? Since when have people limited suggestions on improving the game to only the leaders and 2ics of alliances?

Do i dare say that forbidden word? Bias?

Dont particularly care but thought I would just stir the pot a little

Much love

[deni]

We have had the Tok'ra section for years now. And that's hidden too yet no one screamed bias yet.

[Rocky]

thats because no one cares about the tokra section whereas this section actually has some importance

[deni]

I see.

When it is an important section and it is hidden, it is "bias".

If it is of no importance, who cares?

[[BoT] Jason]

Make it a group only post, but anyone can view

[Rocky]

yes, people generally only care if it has some relevance or importance, otherwise you would have seen people complaining about the "tokra" section

[deni]

If the section is visible or not is for the Galactic Council to decide.

Before a decision is reached, it will stay hidden.

The other option is to move it away from this forums which will make the chances slim of anyone not in the Council to access it.

You would not want that, wouldn't you?


And btw, there are several other hidden sections that affect all - the admin section, the GM and mod forums, the ombudsman section, the brain trust, the awards comitee and others.

All of them are of importance, but it does not mean they will be public anytime soon if a serious discussion is to be held there.

[Rocky]

Gets its own secret forum section? Since when does that happen? Since when have people limited suggestions on improving the game to only the leaders and 2ics of alliances?

Do i dare say that forbidden word? Bias?

Dont particularly care but thought I would just stir the pot a little

Much love

i think you will find deni that, just the leaders and 2iC are not the only members of this game,

What is our purpose?
To be the GW think tank and collect ideas in an organized manner and in regards to a higher quality game experience and put them forth in the forum to be discussed by all users.
The Council will not form new alliances, nor will it to empower a specific group with absolute power..no it is to bring the players of this community to a table where we can all participate in the caretaking and improvements of this game we love so much in an organized and efficient manner.

The council is built on these words, how can you then say,
"we are going to make a private group of only alliance leaders and discuss things privately, because we know best"???

[Zeratul]

that is very true deni... there are countless hidden sections... we cant remember if we've set all sections to visible for ourselves, but right now we can see no less than 200 section on this forums...

How many can you see? (question directed at some regular user)

[deni]

The Council is meant to be a small group of players who carry some influence in the game.

That way a more constructive discussion can be held and maybe some ideas worked out that might bring the game forward.

If you think the Galactic Council is to be made up of EVERY player, then a separate section is not needed and we can continue to discuss things to death in the Suggestion section.

[Zeratul]

Also, (we think) part of the idea is that if you are not the representative, and have some idea you want them people on the council to discuss, you can get yer alliance representatives to present it for ya...

or if you merely want to come with your idea, there's still the game suggestions section... it wont be removed...

we believe this council thingy is a supplement, not a replacement...

[Empy]

Do you think Robe or R8 or whoever represents TL does not have your best interests at heart...?

[Rocky]

The Council is meant to be a small group of players who carry some influence in the game.

That way a more constructive discussion can be held and maybe some ideas worked out that might bring the game forward.

If you think the Galactic Council is to be made up of EVERY player, then a separate section is not needed and we can continue to discuss things to death in the Suggestion section.

The point is that, if we are going to discuss options for the future of the game, how does it help if we have 30 or so of the better players discussing how it will help?, considering any solutions for smaller players will not benefit any of the bigger players as a direct result, that much is clear.

Also when did i ever mention we make the council include everyone???
I think you'll find i actually agreed with you on the part where i said its a good idea to make it visible to everyone, that is all. I think the idea of a council is to have only a select few, but making it visible at least gives everyone a chance to see what is happening and so that at least everyone can form an opinion on what is happening.

I presume this council will have a large influence on what Jason does, therefore everyone has
a right to see what plans are made to better the game for "everyone" and not a select few.

The Government for example, if they want to implement something new, do not sit in a private room and discuss it amongst themselves and then implement it.
They have to give their ideas in the house of commons(In the UK anyway) and then a vote is taken. Every time this is done, everyone in the whole of the UK can watch on TV what happens.

@empy i know they have the best intent, I'm just saying its best to make it public for all to see

[Empy]

Alright, well if and how much will be public is still being discussed..... I'm sure it's not going to be just the Galactic Council working behind closed doors then having private meetings with Jason and BOOM, updates.

[Jim]

For the most part im playing devils advocate here, but i think the main issue is Game Vs Forum.
This council only has select alliances in it, and these select alliances are allowed on the forums to a secret section. The forum therefore is supporting these alliances more than any other.