[ α Allegiance ] new year new start

[dazman]

Hes a big boy now.

The start of a new year, means start of a new era, a meaner one. Recently we have been slacking in the massing department, but no longer. If I see you in our logs I will mass you

[doc holliday]

you could've given me a warning first

i take 1.8 trill on a 1.4 trill defense, then i come back to 50-60 mil weps sabbed and you starting in on my spies

[Norbe]

Hes a big boy now.

The start of a new year, means start of a new era, a meaner one. Recently we have been slacking in the massing department, but no longer. If I see you in our logs I will mass you

dazman dazman dazman... you need to listen to your new boss before you go starting wars. He was telling me earlier how there shouldn't be problems between Alpha and TÅ members, yet here you sab out weapons from one of us for a VERY fair naq hit. That to me IS a problem.

~Norbe~

[dazman]

Hes a big boy now.

The start of a new year, means start of a new era, a meaner one. Recently we have been slacking in the massing department, but no longer. If I see you in our logs I will mass you

dazman dazman dazman... you need to listen to your new boss before you go starting wars. He was telling me earlier how there shouldn't be problems between Alpha and TÅ members, yet here you sab out weapons from one of us for a VERY fair naq hit. That to me IS a problem.

~Norbe~

Doc has been in Alpha's logs more times then anyone. He seems to be in there whenever hes off ppt.

My boss told me nothing of this. I'm not about to start letting people in our logs continuously even if it is profitable.

[Mathlord]

Hes a big boy now.

The start of a new year, means start of a new era, a meaner one. Recently we have been slacking in the massing department, but no longer. If I see you in our logs I will mass you

dazman dazman dazman... you need to listen to your new boss before you go starting wars. He was telling me earlier how there shouldn't be problems between Alpha and TÅ members, yet here you sab out weapons from one of us for a VERY fair naq hit. That to me IS a problem.

~Norbe~

Doc has been in Alpha's logs more times then anyone. He seems to be in there whenever hes off ppt.

My boss told me nothing of this. I'm not about to start letting people in our logs continuously even if it is profitable.

Well go tell your boss to clarify Alpha's position on this matter. I'm getting a little annoyed with seeing kind words from alliance leaders only for their members to do whatever they want anyway. Actions speak louder than words. If you don't want TA in your logs, don't show up in ours. If you attack us, we will attack you. It's a simple concept that your leadership has been fine with apparently up through this afternoon all the way until to your comments and actions right now.

Here I thought OE was trying to turn over a new leaf...

[dazman]

if you want to build good relations with myself and Alpha don't farm us period.

[Mathlord]

if you want to build good relations with myself and Alpha don't farm us period.

There can't be good relations if there isn't equal respect paid to both parties. I treat you the way you treat us. Anything else and you strain the good will people are willing to offer.

[dazman]

Who in Alpha farms TA as much as you farm us?

[doc holliday]

4 times in the last 11 days (atleast 11) that isn't very continuous (btw today's hit was the first time in 2011)
this isn't me complaining or crying "oh i got sabbed boo hoo" i'm a big boy, i can handle that. This is me saying man, new leadership, new year, coulda started with a warning instead of a leader saying one thing and a few hours later a 2ic doing something that goes completely against his word to us.

[dazman]

4 times in the last 11 days (atleast 11) that isn't very continuous (btw today's hit was the first time in 2011)
this isn't me complaining or crying "oh i got sabbed boo hoo" i'm a big boy, i can handle that. This is me saying man, new leadership, new year, coulda started with a warning instead of a leader saying one thing and a few hours later a 2ic doing something that goes completely against his word to us.

I know you can Doc. Your a good sport, as are most of TA. Leadership change or not, this is Alpha we are talking about you know....

And 4 hits out of 11 is alot when your on ppt for the other 7 days.

Anyway this is not the place to bicker. I shall talk to Ogre, and we can discuss something and we shall get back to you on the matter.

[Mathlord]

Since December 29th, I count 26 attacks on TA members from Alpha alone (this is the last page of our logs). In the same time period, I count 4 attacks by TA members on Alpha. There might be gaps in our logs, and if this trend becomes greatly different, let me know. That said, I count a few Alpha members who are in our logs more frequently than Doc is in yours...deathshotshooter and adonis almighty the most frequent farmers.

[R8]

ah the old you farm me i farm you routine. but be careful i dont like it when you farm me so i will mass you.

and the you farmed us more than we farmed you.

sgw shenanigans never get old and they never change

why get upset over farming, its the best part of the game

[dazman]

Who says I'm upset. it gives me a reason for Doc the be the special #1, first person Ive massed this year.

I'm more upset with my members not building big enough defenses then with Doc or TA. But still got to stick up for your guys.

[Mathlord]

Who says I'm upset. it gives me a reason for Doc the be the special #1, first person Ive massed this year.

I'm more upset with my members not building big enough defenses then with Doc or TA. But still got to stick up for your guys.

Sticking up for your guys is admirable, though you understand we have to do the same. We won't lie around watching you guys take our naq We most certainly won't lie around watching you mass our members for doing to you a tiny fraction of what you do to us.

[Norbe]

I think this discussion can be continued by the diplomats behind closed doors. Can this thread be locked?

~Norbe~