renegadze wrote:Cole wrote:renegadze wrote:Cole wrote:Sure for people who have a 3+tril MS, 450mil army size, 800+tril bank size, 500k raw UP and level 38 covert, 20tril doesn't do much, but it's not always about running after the top dogs level, when you start. As I said:Cole wrote:I'm sure there are many people who have smaller than 20tril banks who have been there for a while, people who grow slowly or who weren't in an alliance and rarely spent in bank size growth.
20tril is TOO much. I would agree something within few trillions, but then again it would depend on the size.
Example given (random names and situations):
You should realize that John, who would have joined game let's say 2 weeks before such update -as I doubt it would be retroactive-, who would have raided a lot and farmed a lot, and who would have recently joined an alliance, would hear about another player, let's say Jeremiah, who would have joined afterwards update, and obtained the bank for newcomers. He wouldn't even have had to do bank upgrades and join an alliance, his bank would be bigger than John's who would have played much more, thus if he was to spend as much time as John to grow, his growth would have been easier due to bigger bank size. It's not only about 6 years ago, but with such updates, you screw every newbies who joined prior to this. As it's too difficult to do retroactive update. Not to mention existing players who have smaller than 20tril banks, and I'm sure there are many of them.
Not to mention that giving too much benefits to newcomers would convince some people to create multi accounts, and the more a new account gets bonuses, the more multis would be profitable. Especially for people who have been slow growing/out of alliances and have small banks, would notice having few new accounts would be good to store naq for them.
The biggest farmers ingame are farming more then 20tril a day - if more is not done to help the small players to try and emulate this then you'll simply be left with a game where the divide between top and bottom carries on growing exponentially.
Having a big bank doesn't mean much if you don't also put in the effort to farm and fill it, If I started 1 month before someone and their bank was the same size as mine, I wouldn't really care, their bank size does not effect my gameplay.
Lets not forget, when most of us started, merely PPT'ing increased your bank size, I believe this was long since removed?
I've been playing for six years, I did PPT twice a week almost every week I've been around, sure I have been away for 8 months in 2010/2011 and that is quite noticeable in my bank space, much smaller than it could have been, but I've also benefited from alliance bank upgrades, and 20tril, with my bank ratio, would mean the person would need about 22mil miners/lifers to have it! Sure it's good to help new players, but let's not give them too much, or else as I said, it would convince many people to multi, as not everyone has such ratio. Not everyone has been part of the big empires, not everyone has 800tril bank for 150mil miners, and not everyone has a 800$ worth account. There aren't only the top dogs in this game. Else they wouldn't be top dogs anymore! Heck, I often see people who sell their account, which seem good, but their bank space are smaller than mine, while they are sometimes beyond 350mil army size: they weren't in alliances and didn't benefit from alliance upgrades. I mean not everyone has had the luck to do bank upgrades within all alliances of the empire when update came out. 20tril at start would be same kind of ratio that people who were in big empires have.
lol your argument is counter intuitive....if a bank was small, that person would be more likely to multi not less...they'd then use the excuse "I needed to store the naq somewhere"
Not every new player would be lucky enough to join a large alliance for a bank upgrade - so your idea penalises the new and small. To top that off, with recent increase in costs for those upgrades, I think you'll struggle to find many alliances still doing this......I'm pretty sure TL won't be doing anymore bank upgrades for the forseeable future.
So.
1) you no longer increase bank with PPT
2) not many alliances will do bank upgrades now
3) small banks for new players with either force them to send their naq to a larger friend\multi\spend it unwisely as they "had" to use it.
I know if I just started, none of this would encourage me to stay.
You got it wrong. I didn't say newbies would multi, but people who are there already, who have small banks for some reason, and would hear about the benefits from a new account.
Also, I'm not really sure PPT doesn't add bank space anymore, I'll have to check. If it's the case, that's a really idiotic update, which disadvantages lone wolves greatly (and anyone who goes to PPT on a regular basis).
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