Open ascension or not?

[Cole]

Who wouldn't be screwed up:
-people close or who reached TUK and didn't build too much their resetable stats (covert, anticovert, UP) expecting more levels would come.

People who are currently screwed: People that don't build up too much because Admin said there will be more ascensions.

Sometimes in SGW you have to make decisions, some people decided to build up hugely and now try to block admin his plans because either they are 2 ascensions behind or lose all their investments at the current ascension.

40 ascensions is just silly tho.

I am not against adding one or two ascensions, that's why I didn't vote in the poll either, as my position isn't stated there. I am against adding more than few ascensions. I don't mind of admin does it to 25. As long as the top 2 aren't hugely advantaged compared to TUKs and below. I'm against adding 7+ ascensions as there would be too much of a gap AND it would be more than the promised 25 ascensions (not to mention case of newcomers facing over a year to complete ascensions).

1. We aren't getting many new people but loosing MANY members

Roket...we both know there aren't many people coming & staying with the current 46 weeks setup...if it increases to 60-80 weeks, there will be:
-even less joining
-many people living as I mentioned earlier

Also, completing the game isn't only about reaching TUK, back then many people reached LGs it didn't mean all the LGs were equal. Same as now there are people mid ascension who are better than TUKs. It's not only about ascensions, but it's a factor not to forget of course.

Not to mention this let's add more more ascension along with your suggestions to cut ascensions below LG will devaluate even more the ingame accounts in the market.

[[BoT] Jason]

Decrease ascending times of 1-10 and then have an exponential increase every 5 ascensions and then we can look at opening more ascensions?

EG 1-10 take 200GnR and a 2 Day waiting period
10-15 take 500 GnR and a 8 Day waiting period
15-20 take 1250 GnR and a 16 Day waiting period
20-25 take 3125 GnR and a 32 Day waiting period

Or something like that

[RoKeT]

Decrease ascending times of 1-10 and then have an exponential increase every 5 ascensions and then we can look at opening more ascensions?

EG 1-10 take 200GnR and a 2 Day waiting period
10-15 take 500 GnR and a 8 Day waiting period
15-20 take 1250 GnR and a 16 Day waiting period
20-25 take 3125 GnR and a 32 Day waiting period

Or something like that

that makes sense, I mean in RL wouldn't it be more difficult to get to a higher level in anything? so why is it all the same GnR that is kinda silly xD Good point bro never thought of it

[renegadze]

Ascending beyond TUK would be fine, not sure what the fuss is about, I actually was at my most active on my ascended run - was nice to have something to do.

If admin ever wanted to encourage the people with covert 38+ to bother though, then the reward would have to be significant, unless as was suggested earlier where they get back a portion of their outlay.

I always thought he could have played it a bit smarter with the ascended server - descension = lose and ascended level. I realise a rule such as this now would cause uproar. But had he set this up when he decided to let people go past 10, then people may have been more encouraged to play ascended.

This could have then culminated in the 25th and final ascension being called "The One". As the title suggests, only one person can reach this rank, even if others have the requirements. "The One" would then have to be descended for anybody else to take this accolade.

[RepliMagni]

Trouble with ascending is that you aren't an effective military force. To add in more ascensions will just put newcomers further behind in the log run (ie: all those Unknowns with less than c.36 will likely continue ascending), whereas the benefits would have to be massive for c.39s to continue (in which case newbies would be further back).

I know a few people restarting again, and the best advice I can give them is get an LG+1 asap, or better yet trade up for an Unknown. Cos otherwise its six months of only having a half account. If we want newcomers involved we should be starting accounts as LG+1s...

I'm not necessarily against more ascensions, but I don't really see the point either....

[Cole]

I would say Jason isn't wrong with the idea of different G&R/timelines to ascend. I would for my case say the two ascensions (hopefully not more) should be something like this:

23=>24
100k G&R
1.3x TUK's requirements
4 weeks delay after reaching TUK

24=>25
250k G&R
1.3x 24's requirements
8 weeks delay after reaching 24th.

That's imo a good thing just so if people who built a lot at TUK (big amount of supers and raw UP) decide to ascend, they won't be disadvantaged compared to those who didn't build as much (big requirements for those last two ascensions). Without excessive bonuses, just same additional as you get before these ascensions for AB/stats. Just so these aren't big advantages compared to lower levels. As that would devaluate accounts in market and do many more bad effects than good.

I also agree having same amount of G&R from Prior to UnKnown is bit of nonsense. And same goes for time delay...

[[BoT] Jason]

It would take 2 years of being rank 1 to get the GnR for both of those ascensions

So if you could hold rank 1 for two years you wont be giving it up for a small % more

[Cole]

It would take 2 years of being rank 1 to get the GnR for both of those ascensions

So if you could hold rank 1 for two years you wont be giving it up for a small % more

I admit I went a bit too far witht he G&R.

Let's say 20k for 24th and 40k for 25th.

[Juliette]

I always thought he could have played it a bit smarter with the ascended server - descension = lose and ascended level. I realise a rule such as this now would cause uproar. But had he set this up when he decided to let people go past 10, then people may have been more encouraged to play ascended.

Loved that idea when it was first posed. Shame it didn't work that way.

This could have then culminated in the 25th and final ascension being called "The One". As the title suggests, only one person can reach this rank, even if others have the requirements. "The One" would then have to be descended for anybody else to take this accolade.

Agreed. That too, is both brilliant and fitting to the title. Never liked the idea of multiple Origins, but I can see how that'd work. The One would have to receive insane ascended bonuses though, to be a position worth assailing.

[Cole]

Good ideas there Renegadze. Indeed would have been interesting if descension= drop by one level. But it should have been implemented when 13 additional ascensions were added. Maybe game would have taken a different path...

[Juliette]

Good ideas there Renegadze. Indeed would have been interesting if descension= drop by one level. But it should have been implemented when 13 additional ascensions were added. Maybe game would have taken a different path...

Implement it now, what's the fuss. Naysayers be damned to Hades.

[Cole]

Good ideas there Renegadze. Indeed would have been interesting if descension= drop by one level. But it should have been implemented when 13 additional ascensions were added. Maybe game would have taken a different path...

Implement it now, what's the fuss. Naysayers be damned to Hades.

I'm personally not against the idea, but you can guess the amount of complaints/criticism/whining/yelling it would create if it wasn't discussed beforehand and all, considering the important effects on game play such update would have.

[Duderanch]

I think if an update like that was to be implemented now then it would have to come with atleast a months advanced notice so people have the chance to work on their ascended accounts. Also if you still were kicked out of ascended for 2 weeks then I think a gap of another 2weeks (after you have regained access to ascended) should be in place before you can be descended again. So in short 4 weeks between a successful descension and the next descension attempt.

[Kjarkur]

I think if an update like that was to be implemented now then it would have to come with atleast a months advanced notice so people have the chance to work on their ascended accounts. Also if you still were kicked out of ascended for 2 weeks then I think a gap of another 2weeks (after you have regained access to ascended) should be in place before you can be descended again. So in short 4 weeks between a successful descension and the next descension attempt.

Agreed !

[Juliette]

I think if an update like that was to be implemented now then it would have to come with atleast a months advanced notice so people have the chance to work on their ascended accounts. Also if you still were kicked out of ascended for 2 weeks then I think a gap of another 2weeks (after you have regained access to ascended) should be in place before you can be descended again. So in short 4 weeks between a successful descension and the next descension attempt.

Agreed !

Seems only fair, indeed. A grace period in which to adapt to the new reality. Works for me.