Descending-Reascending changes

[Gaius]

Descended accounts can only re-ascend using 2000 GnR and will come back in the ascended realm at half the size they were when they got defeated.
Each time a previously ascended and re-ascending person tries to ascend, they must have 2000 GnR.
If a person is descended TWICE, they may never ascend again.

Just thought it might give a chance to those guys who didn't think ascended realm is worth playing, then got surprised and wished they'd played it.
Also has a stargate universe explanation: Oma Desala said that ascending another time after being descended is possible through a vote of the rule-makers, but a third one is impossible.

[Flavar]

I dont think that punishing people that dont play ascended as much as others is the way to go.
A small bonus for main or so, could be a way i go.

And even if the punishments you suggest are way to intensive.


Please can you all, when posting a suggestion, give the topic title a name that is relevant to the suggestion. 'Ideas' and/or 'Suggestions' is not good enough.
And take a look at https://talk.gatewa.rs/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=105347

[Gaius]

Off Topic: Yeah, I'm not a genius when it comes to titles.

I didn't say that people who don't play ascended as much as others should be punished. One can very well do so much as log in when he ascends and spend all points in max life force.

My suggestion is not to punish anyone at all, just to balance things out, as the admins must have had a reason to make descended players not able to ascend anymore.
Currently, descended players may no longer ascend. They become daimons. I'm trying to suggest that they be given a second chance, with increased requirements, if not 2000 gnr, then maybe 1250, 1500, something around that.

[Flavar]

ah ok. I think i should really read up the game changes for the last few years^^

if what you say is true

[renegadze]

Off Topic: Yeah, I'm not a genius when it comes to titles.

I didn't say that people who don't play ascended as much as others should be punished. One can very well do so much as log in when he ascends and spend all points in max life force.

My suggestion is not to punish anyone at all, just to balance things out, as the admins must have had a reason to make descended players not able to ascend anymore.
Currently, descended players may no longer ascend. They become daimons. I'm trying to suggest that they be given a second chance, with increased requirements, if not 2000 gnr, then maybe 1250, 1500, something around that.

Think someone might have been supplying you with some duff info.....a descended player does not become a daimon

They become descended, then 2 weeks later they automatically reascend....for free.

I think it might be a little harsh to suggest someone being descended twice can never ascended again though lol

The whole descension subject needs a complete review, it's now almost impossible to descend a decent target, it's far too much in the favour of the defence

[Flavar]

How would you do it then, renegadze?

[renegadze]

Well now people are actually starting to be active on ascended, I think admin needs to find a way that you cant automatically fill your entire reserve just by farming 1 person.

People should be able to defend themselves, but considering some targets take over 24 hours, and that's if you hit exactly on time every 3 hours, being able to "repair" is far too easy.

[Gaius]

A friend was descended.
His GnR on Base tab shows "not for daimon race".
His account doesn't exist on ascended realm.
It's been two months.

[Sarcasm] Hey, thanks for telling me! You solved it all, thanks so much! You're my hero![/Sarcasm]

Nov 2010
[spoiler]Re-Ascension: You cannot reascend if you are current descended in the Ascended Realm. (Your name tag will show 'of a descended...' in main as well).[/spoiler]

Undisclosed friend's stats[spoiler]Glory and Reputation Score (gained > rank 1,596) not for daimon race 166[/spoiler]

[renegadze]

A friend was descended.
His GnR on Base tab shows "not for daimon race".
His account doesn't exist on ascended realm.
It's been two months.

[Sarcasm] Hey, thanks for telling me! You solved it all, thanks so much! You're my hero![/Sarcasm]

Nov 2010
[spoiler]Re-Ascension: You cannot reascend if you are current descended in the Ascended Realm. (Your name tag will show 'of a descended...' in main as well).[/spoiler]

Undisclosed friend's stats[spoiler]Glory and Reputation Score (gained > rank 1,596) not for daimon race 166[/spoiler]

That means he descended himself, he chose to be daimon race.

If you are actually descended in battle, after 2 weeks you do return to your previous ascended state. This is both automatic and free. You do not press any buttons for this to happen, it does it all by itself

[Clarkey]

A friend was descended.
His GnR on Base tab shows "not for daimon race".
His account doesn't exist on ascended realm.
It's been two months.

Are you confusing descended and unascending yourself with each other?

Daimon is only achieved if you chose to no longer be ascended.

Even when someone descends you your account is still on the ascended realm. When you unascend yourself and become a daimon then the account no longer exists on the ascended realm.

I think you are confusing the two things.

[Heisenberg]

A friend was descended.
His GnR on Base tab shows "not for daimon race".
His account doesn't exist on ascended realm.
It's been two months.

Are you confusing descended and unascending yourself with each other?

Daimon is only achieved if you chose to no longer be ascended.

Even when someone descends you your account is still on the ascended realm. When you unascend yourself and become a daimon then the account no longer exists on the ascended realm.

I think you are confusing the two things.

Well, you know the problem i had with my ascended title not showing in main?
Admin said i was cause i was decended, which in turn made me a Daimon, i had to change to unascended race to gain G & R again. However my ascended account still remained...

[MEZZANINE]

I like the idea of reascending at a G&R cost, but rather than a fixed fee, maybe it should be based on how early you reascend. Something like

Same day as you get descended = 10K G&R to reascend

Incremental decrease in cost daily down to the current 2 week limit

Two weeks after being descended = 1K G&R to reascend



The idea of never being able to reascend if descended a set number of times is pants and will kill accounts.

As for Daimons, I thought they could reascend but they had to start at Prior all over again as old ascended data was lost when they chose to be Daimons.

[Heisenberg]

As for Daimons, I thought they could reascend but they had to start at Prior all over again as old ascended data was lost when they chose to be Daimons.

Nah, Daimons have to change to unascended race to gand G & R, however if they have 1000 already that doesnt matter. Then once they ascended they just continue their ascension path. i.e Being decended at Ancient God, once they ascend they will be Elder Ancient God, etc, etc.

Happened to me

[Duderanch]

Being descended in battle and descending yourself are very different, I'll try and explain.

Descended in battle - when another player descends you, your main account loses all it's ascended bonuses (stat bonus and ascended blessing) for 2 weeks, you also get DESCENDED in your ascended title. This automatically changes after 14 days.

Daimon - Becoming a Daimon is a choice you make as a player by clicking some buttons on your ascended account. When you become a Daimon, you lose your ascended blessing but you keep your ascended stat bonus. You also get double UU losses when attacking and defending and don't collect G&R. The 'bonus' is you cannot be descended by another player and lose your stat bonus.

If you want to ascend again you have to change to an unascended race, collect 1001 G&R and press the ascend button. I THINK this ascends you up to the level you was when you first became a Daimon but I am not sure.

[Heisenberg]

Being descended in battle and descending yourself are very different, I'll try and explain.

Descended in battle - when another player descends you, your main account loses all it's ascended bonuses (stat bonus and ascended blessing) for 2 weeks, you also get DESCENDED in your ascended title. This automatically changes after 14 days.

Daimon - Becoming a Daimon is a choice you make as a player by clicking some buttons on your ascended account. When you become a Daimon, you lose your ascended blessing but you keep your ascended stat bonus. You also get double UU losses when attacking and defending and don't collect G&R. The 'bonus' is you cannot be descended by another player and lose your stat bonus.

If you want to ascend again you have to change to an unascended race, collect 1001 G&R and press the ascend button. I THINK this ascends you up to the level you was when you first became a Daimon but I am not sure.

Yeah but with my account, Admin said i was decended which is why i was Daimon.
I know what you mean, maybe Admin meant i deleted my Ascended. Which i never remember doing haha.

Yeah you do go one up from when you last ascended. I was Elder Ancient God, i ascended last week, now i am Ancient God of Lengend (One up from Elder Ancient God) haha.