Cap everything

[jedi~tank]

Yet you spend more $$ then most Do you not see yourself as a walking contradiction? Maybe try setting an example for others by cutting back on what you spend

No I dont, not nearly what you think, and this is not about me personally rene, stay on the topic, your narrow mindedness is foolish looking. Now lets try it again.

$$ is always going to be apart of this and every other game online, its the way it is. What if I decided to spend...say 10k on naq all in 1 go and jack my account even more sick than it already is?

Even the tops couldnt compete and I wouldnt HAVE to be apart of any alliance to dominate...any alliance, I could do and destroy whatever I wanted until there was (has been) enough of an outcry to allow the tops (the few...catered too) to catch up to me via some game changing rule..thus increasing the gap between the tops (us) and the nooblets (new players and smaller accounts) and the cycle continues...regardless if its my alliance m8's, yours, The syndicate, haven, OE or any other..the playing field has got to be leveled to a degree where these members have a chance to compete..regardless of the current alignements and wars the fact is before us ALL, this game is out of balance and it is not feasable to bring new people in and HIGHLY unlikely anyone will stay once they learn what the real deal is. Thats the facts guys you cannot disguise it or get away from it.

The lack of new blood to an alliance is the eventual death of that alliance, and its GAMEWIDE. You dont see alliances expanding due to new members save a few here and there, no, they are expanding due to merges of already existing players and the disbandment of longstanding alliances due to this very thing...lack of new players. Bottom line. Capping this **Filtered** will help very much, its basic management, you cap growth until your company catches up to itself then you raise the cap based on necessarry demand.

[noone]

People want TOC's to be less effective, want PPT on ascended when you PPT on main.....these would basically close the ascended server - I know that seems to be your goal, because collectively you guys haven't bothered that much with your ascended accounts - but this would not be an update for everyone. Ironically when I was in DDE, we were pushed to work our ascended accounts.

More bullpoop, DAMN, TL has been getting a nack for this lately, and you are living up to the expectations

And calling it "our goal" hahaha, goddamnit, the TL propaganda balony machine in full effect here ladies and gentlemen.
Quite a few in DDE have very good ascended accounts, all TL wants to be able to it seems, is quickly descend all the trainees, hopefully deterring them from wanting to be in DDE cos they gget sat on first by our enemies.

You say it will basically "shut down" the ascended server, well bud, thats your opinion, because some of you wont be able to descend people so activel as much, as you all have been pushing to get done more lately.
So basically, when you people in TL cant descend as much, in your eyes, the ascended server will stop being appealing for everyone ??? Thats **Filtered** and you know it.

It would be an update for the greater majority, and not just benefit those few at the top.
You seem to forget convienently that TL is not the only one with high ascended accounts.

Stop the crap .... or I'll add more too.

[renegadze]

People want TOC's to be less effective, want PPT on ascended when you PPT on main.....these would basically close the ascended server - I know that seems to be your goal, because collectively you guys haven't bothered that much with your ascended accounts - but this would not be an update for everyone. Ironically when I was in DDE, we were pushed to work our ascended accounts.

More bullpoop, DAMN, TL has been getting a nack for this lately, and you are living up to the expectations

And calling it "our goal" hahaha, goddamnit, the TL propaganda balony machine in full effect here ladies and gentlemen.
Quite a few in DDE have very good ascended accounts, all TL wants to be able to it seems, is quickly descend all the trainees, hopefully deterring them from wanting to be in DDE cos they gget sat on first by our enemies.

You say it will basically "shut down" the ascended server, well bud, thats your opinion, because some of you wont be able to descend people so activel as much, as you all have been pushing to get done more lately.
So basically, when you people in TL cant descend as much, in your eyes, the ascended server will stop being appealing for everyone ??? Thats **Filtered** and you know it.

It would be an update for the greater majority, and not just benefit those few at the top.
You seem to forget convienently that TL is not the only one with high ascended accounts.

Stop the crap .... or I'll add more too.

lmao your post is funny....

If DDE has some good accounts...maybe they should go make use of them instead of posting here

and no those update would not slow down descending, it would pretty much prevent it completely - this just shows your lack of knowledge of how to play ascended

FYI some of the people we've descended took in excess of 20 hours, and it made little difference who in TL hit them, as our mid range TOC's were already doing "max dmg" You all seem to thing having a large TOC means every target is easier to descend, this is not the case in the slightest.

Also what have we been pushing to "get more done"? The irony is TL haven't actually asked for any ascended updates lol we posted suggestions like everyone else, some were implemented...some not.

[noone]

lmao your post is funny....

If DDE has some good accounts...maybe they should go make use of them instead of posting here

and no those update would not slow down descending, it would pretty much prevent it completely - this just shows your lack of knowledge of how to play ascended

FYI some of the people we've descended took in excess of 20 hours, and it made little difference who in TL hit them, as our mid range TOC's were already doing "max dmg" You all seem to thing having a large TOC means every target is easier to descend, this is not the case in the slightest.

Also what have we been pushing to "get more done"? The irony is TL haven't actually asked for any ascended updates lol we posted suggestions like everyone else, some were implemented...some not.

Awww ... you are so good at just posting stupid retarded dumb ass propagande in favor of your alliance .. its getting pathetic ...

Here we go ... your a moron.

[Iƒrit]

funny you mention TL so much. Apparently you only have to be in an alliance to loose an opinion how daft a argument.
Try using logic, reasoning and sound points. Perhaps instead of clutching at straws, name calling and making speculative accusations you could well... provide something constructive.

I for one have fought for having descending exist, and before I was ever in TL. Actually even during a time I was in DDE Interesting enough I also have argued in some threads against fellow TL mates with logic, reasoning and sound points. So kindly debate and quit trying to clutch at straws, name call, and making accusations that just don't exist, except in your own world.

Funny enough the thread is titled cap everything. Soon as the $$ debate is brought up people rush to hide from that debate, but much like you have you opinions about ascending needing to be capped (which it doesn't), I for one know and think money market needs to be capped. And why one of the biggest money spenders in game wouldn't add it to the list to be capped is indeed suspicious, no?

[noone]

blah blah blah .... but much like you have you opinions about ascending needing to be capped (which it doesn't),... blah blah blah

It does

[stuff of legends]

Here we go ... your a moron.

haha and i thought I was a hypocrite

[noone]

Here we go ... your a moron.

haha and i thought I was a hypocrite

You are and an idiot

[Noobert]

You have been warned once, twice, and this is the third and final time. Quit spamming, insulting, taking jabs at each other, and make constructive posts or I will see you all warned for every single post that is off-topic, abuse, or insulting.

This is your final warning.

[jedi~tank]

$$ is always going to be apart of this and every other game online, its the way it is. What if I decided to spend...say 10k on naq all in 1 go and jack my account even more sick than it already is?

Even the tops couldnt compete and I wouldnt HAVE to be apart of any alliance to dominate...any alliance, I could do and destroy whatever I wanted until there was (has been) enough of an outcry to allow the tops (the few...catered too) to catch up to me via some game changing rule..thus increasing the gap between the tops (us) and the nooblets (new players and smaller accounts) and the cycle continues...regardless if its my alliance m8's, yours, The syndicate, haven, OE or any other..the playing field has got to be leveled to a degree where these members have a chance to compete..regardless of the current alignements and wars the fact is before us ALL, this game is out of balance and it is not feasable to bring new people in and HIGHLY unlikely anyone will stay once they learn what the real deal is. Thats the facts guys you cannot disguise it or get away from it.

The lack of new blood to an alliance is the eventual death of that alliance, and its GAMEWIDE. You dont see alliances expanding due to new members save a few here and there, no, they are expanding due to merges of already existing players and the disbandment of longstanding alliances due to this very thing...lack of new players. Bottom line. Capping this **Filtered** will help very much, its basic management, you cap growth until your company catches up to itself then you raise the cap based on necessarry demand.

[RoKeT]

I just don't see how this won't be taken advantadge of by money spenders and it shoudl be looked at, if the over powering thing is such a bother why not remove buying of resources all together and JT answering with the same answer over and over again obviously means the answer is not a good one we've all over looked it and it's time to start a new argument because yours is obviously not cutting it all i'm saying is you want it fair for noobs then why not cut out the money spending and stop the void eventually the void would slow and even out if the money is gone so... if your trying to help noobs why not do that? why cap everything that won't help anyone that is a noob as there will be just as much massing of them because once massed down once you've used your uu's or your naq you'll just buy it back so again that helps no one... just saying if your really trying to help the others why suggest something that completely helps money spenders and no one else? selfish?

[jedi~tank]

I just don't see how this won't be taken advantadge of by money spenders and it shoudl be looked at, if the over powering thing is such a bother why not remove buying of resources all together and JT answering with the same answer over and over again obviously means the answer is not a good one we've all over looked it and it's time to start a new argument because yours is obviously not cutting it all i'm saying is you want it fair for noobs then why not cut out the money spending and stop the void eventually the void would slow and even out if the money is gone so... if your trying to help noobs why not do that? why cap everything that won't help anyone that is a noob as there will be just as much massing of them because once massed down once you've used your uu's or your naq you'll just buy it back so again that helps no one... just saying if your really trying to help the others why suggest something that completely helps money spenders and no one else? selfish?

Explain logically how cap helps $$ spenders.

[noone]

RoKeT, the fact you can outpower someone greatly with money heavily outweighs the comparisson to someone who needs to refill his or her resources with money.

Once stronger ... well .. then your stronger ... and you wont have to spent as much as you would typically win.
When just as strong, its a whole different ball game.
Money can still be spent, but battles would be fought on equal footing.
Yes the money spender would still have an advantage, refilling, but that would just be it.
He or she could still loose.
Skill, could even win the none money spender the battle against a money spender.

[RoKeT]

JT think about it for a money spender this would be the best thing and here is why i'll try and explain i know i'm bad at it

okay if we all can only get so far... then say you mass the same size guy that doesn't spend money... now you can go rebuild your account completely in 2 minutes and can do it again, now if he has to go raid and farm it will take forever to get his account back up to top notch what will only take you 10 minutes do you understand? basically IMO anywyas they would become unstoppable because they wouldn't have anyone bigger to compete with it would be all about who could spend the most and rebuild, I hope that kinda helped again I know i'm not the best with explaining

[jedi~tank]

JT think about it for a money spender this would be the best thing and here is why i'll try and explain i know i'm bad at it

okay if we all can only get so far... then say you mass the same size guy that doesn't spend money... now you can go rebuild your account completely in 2 minutes and can do it again, now if he has to go raid and farm it will take forever to get his account back up to top notch what will only take you 10 minutes do you understand? basically IMO anywyas they would become unstoppable because they wouldn't have anyone bigger to compete with it would be all about who could spend the most and rebuild, I hope that kinda helped again I know i'm not the best with explaining

In light of that you need to read what I said before because obviously you missed it completely.

$$ is always going to be apart of this and every other game online, its the way it is. What if I decided to spend...say 10k on naq all in 1 go and jack my account even more sick than it already is?

Even the tops couldnt compete and I wouldnt HAVE to be apart of any alliance to dominate...any alliance, I could do and destroy whatever I wanted until there was (has been) enough of an outcry to allow the tops (the few...catered too) to catch up to me via some game changing rule..thus increasing the gap between the tops (us) and the nooblets (new players and smaller accounts) and the cycle continues

So honestly I do not see how your point is a point although thanks for the effort.