what is the position on family members eg husband and wife switching between each others accounts?
one plays perg, while the other is on main?
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Re: sharing accounts
I'm confused, do they each have seperate accounts? Or are they both sharing the same one.
The latter would be against rules. The former is perfectly acceptable.
The latter would be against rules. The former is perfectly acceptable.

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Re: sharing accounts
Z E R O wrote:I'm confused, do they each have seperate accounts? Or are they both sharing the same one.
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ƒëmmë ƒatalë wrote:eg husband and wife switching between each others accounts?
Nonetheless its against the rules.


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umm... thanks for asking, Femme.
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Re: sharing accounts
an account each that I think they may exchange with each other ... so in effect act like feeder accounts for each other...
say you and I switched accounts so I could be in Perg for a while, when I had built up in there I come out and we switch again..
I'm not 100% sure this is what they are doing, but would it be within game rules to keep doing that?
say you and I switched accounts so I could be in Perg for a while, when I had built up in there I come out and we switch again..
I'm not 100% sure this is what they are doing, but would it be within game rules to keep doing that?

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Re: sharing accounts
ƒëmmë ƒatalë wrote:an account each that I think they may exchange with each other ... so in effect act like feeder accounts for each other...
say you and I switched accounts so I could be in Perg for a while, when I had built up in there I come out and we switch again..
I'm not 100% sure this is what they are doing, but would it be within game rules to keep doing that?
It's in a grey area..
I've heard of players swapping accounts, and then swapping back. So i'm not positive if it's against the rules, but i'd think not. The example i'm thinking of is of players that don't live in the same house... So i'm not sure how it would work in their situation.
If they have an IP exception they should be allowed to trade with one another. I'm not sure if that covers handing out free resources to one another or what.. I think as long as neither of them is logging into more than one account at any given time, it should technically be legal? although skirting around multiing..

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Re: sharing accounts
I doubt it,
but I have been of the opinion that one account per person included a vacationed account,
and I was **supposedly** mistaken on that...
Funny thing is that I have a lot of friends in this game if someone had told me years ago that all I had to do was put my one account on vacation mode,
buy another one, mass whomever I want,
play long enough so that I don't appear to be thumbing my nose directly in everyone's face,
and then switch my vacationed account with my non-vacationed account.
Now, that's not exactly what has been allowed in recent years...
but the practical & ethical difference, to this autistic SGW noob, is, ehm... negligible at best.
Nonetheless, we did counsel an ally with some major gripes against a lot of people
that this scenario that I just described, was one of those things that could not be done...
that his former alliance commander and I would both be reporting his ass if he went ahead with his own idea to do the same thing...
funny how loopholes big enough to drive a semi through seem to get noticed by both the honest and not-so honest...
and yet, never fixed...
but I have been of the opinion that one account per person included a vacationed account,
and I was **supposedly** mistaken on that...
Funny thing is that I have a lot of friends in this game if someone had told me years ago that all I had to do was put my one account on vacation mode,
buy another one, mass whomever I want,
play long enough so that I don't appear to be thumbing my nose directly in everyone's face,
and then switch my vacationed account with my non-vacationed account.
Now, that's not exactly what has been allowed in recent years...
but the practical & ethical difference, to this autistic SGW noob, is, ehm... negligible at best.
Nonetheless, we did counsel an ally with some major gripes against a lot of people
that this scenario that I just described, was one of those things that could not be done...
that his former alliance commander and I would both be reporting his ass if he went ahead with his own idea to do the same thing...
funny how loopholes big enough to drive a semi through seem to get noticed by both the honest and not-so honest...
and yet, never fixed...
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Re: sharing accounts
I think its an area that needs looking into, a limit on times (hard to police with same isp) accounts can switch.
I guess a game admin could check that indeed logs in also changed.
I guess a game admin could check that indeed logs in also changed.

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Re: sharing accounts
If a husband and wife have their own account, but they log in to each others account it is against the rules. However, it has been an age old problem to prove and therefore goes untouched, because how could a Game Admin prove it?
For example, I know Winter Soldier (the original one) and Tribal Heart shared their accounts. But who can prove it?
For example, I know Winter Soldier (the original one) and Tribal Heart shared their accounts. But who can prove it?
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if they exchange accounts, shouldn't thier logins (email addies, change too) otherwise that is sharing logins isnt it.

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Think of it--always Mahatma Gandhi
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ƒëmmë ƒatalë wrote:if they exchange accounts, shouldn't thier logins (email addies, change too) otherwise that is sharing logins isnt it.
Well, at least Femme brought her thinking cap...
too bad I didn't think of it first...
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if two house members logs to each other account or to the same account cant be proved, suspicion cant have one account deleted anyway. i can only mention u one precedent , JT team, there have been others before , no action were taken.

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If they let admin know its legal as there is no way to prove anything once IP sharing is accepted, which is common when multiple players live in the same house and have wirelss net, just as is the number of proxy useage and remote access useage, if you cannot prove it then there is nothing that can be done.



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Your log entry will show:
IP, UserID, Time
10.10.10.10, ID-HUSBAND, Time1
10.10.10.10, ID-Wife, Time2
IP the same: living in the same house.
ID different: but still the same 2 accs.
Time different; see 'circumstantial' below.
After they 'exchange logins' nothing changes. The whole point of this issue is that they have the same IP; now, you could theoretically inspect the 'trends', i.e. the times they log in from other IPs than their home IP (e.g. Husband logs in from 'work-IP' usually around 0800, and suddenly the Wife does that; that *could* be an indicator). Still only circumstantial.
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IP, UserID, Time
10.10.10.10, ID-HUSBAND, Time1
10.10.10.10, ID-Wife, Time2
IP the same: living in the same house.
ID different: but still the same 2 accs.
Time different; see 'circumstantial' below.
After they 'exchange logins' nothing changes. The whole point of this issue is that they have the same IP; now, you could theoretically inspect the 'trends', i.e. the times they log in from other IPs than their home IP (e.g. Husband logs in from 'work-IP' usually around 0800, and suddenly the Wife does that; that *could* be an indicator). Still only circumstantial.
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Juliette wrote:Your log entry will show:
IP, UserID, Time
10.10.10.10, ID-HUSBAND, Time1
10.10.10.10, ID-Wife, Time2
IP the same: living in the same house.
ID different: but still the same 2 accs.
Time different; see 'circumstantial' below.
After they 'exchange logins' nothing changes. The whole point of this issue is that they have the same IP; now, you could theoretically inspect the 'trends', i.e. the times they log in from other IPs than their home IP (e.g. Husband logs in from 'work-IP' usually around 0800, and suddenly the Wife does that; that *could* be an indicator). Still only circumstantial.
Have fun!
But if husband and wife father and daughter play at the same time, or even whenever they want at different times, nothing you can do and each has the right to play whenver they want.



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