Tekki wrote:Kikaz, I understand plenty. We are more than happy for someone to be substituted. But apparently no one wants to bother. Orpheus was one of the leaders of Mayhem and offered me a vendetta in the week he was back, that's why his name is included here, for symmetry - leaders to leaders. But since he's not around then so be it, someone else can be substituted instead. If mH won't substitute someone, I conclude that they are scared and want OE to look like bullies. It's okay to be scared, but don't say we haven't given the opportunity to make this fair.
Noobert, what is this about a Pact with TL? For crying out loud, look at who has a pact with whom. You guys waited a whole day or so after FUALL was disbanded to strike at an enemy and then you announced your Mutual Defence Pact with DDE. I'm sure you expected OE to jump in within 2 days of your attack on TL but guess what, no matter what you heard or what mh and DDE believed, OE does not have any pact with TL beyond a NAP. But of course, that little piece of information has no bearing, because you believe that we have a pact. What point or good is facts when you can just run on belief.
But then, we all know that mH only look out for themselves and that the word of their leaders to anyone outside of mH is not worth jack. And before you complain about that, it was a MH leader who said that to me.
But Noobert or Kikaz, if you want to see the plan for massing a 220-230t defence, let me know when you build it, and we'll get the crew together for a party.
Hmm where to start with this...
Orph was last the leader of mH when we departed from OE not long after that he retired and vacation moded until recently when he came off for about 10 days when this war started. Other than that he hasn't been around which is why I thought it was funny you said he was the leader of mH at the time...
As for the were too scared to substitute anyone, it's exactly the opposite if RW wants both of you to himself we will respect that completely.. If he asked any of us if we wanted to jump in a vendetta on the other hand we would without hesitation.. However I admit I wouldn't be of much help only being able to play 1 day a week due to work.. If you would personally like a vendetta with me your welcome to one anytime after November before that im sorry to say I simply wont have the time nor proper resources to put up any fight at all. As for the OE are bullies part, I completely disagree with that statement you guys are a close family and protect your own no matter what the consequences are.
Honestly I would sure as hell hope OE and TL didnt have a pact after being at war with each other (under different names but the same people nonetheless) for pretty much 5 years (OA vs. CF, OE vs TF, CoP vs. CiA, FUALL vs. TJP, etc..) I would at the very least find it hard to believe.
As one of the leaders of mH the same could be said for OE or any alliance, every good leader spreads propaganda to anyone outside of their empire or alliance to meet their goals you yourself and ETL for that matter know that as you've done it successfully for years.

And as for the defense deal I didn't mean to belittle the massing it was still an amazing feat... I just wanted to point out that when you said 'we massed his def and took most of his spies' that wasnt the entire truth you had help whether it was planned or simply a coincidence you massed him immediatly after FM lowered his defense by 60tril and RW lost 1/3rd of his army. Really all I was saying was you can't say you and ETL did all the work and completely ignore what FM accomplished.
As for the vendetta and passing info to AG I honestly have no idea about any of that for all I know it could just be hearsay tossed at you from Field Marshall, as it's apparent and you've already admitted to being in contact with him.. But the reasons for the vendetta don't matter as it's already begun, just try to enjoy it in a respectful manner with less mH/TL/AG/DDE/OE bashing from everyone..
Good Luck in your vendetta and I hope this posts helps you to understand my motives better.. I'll try to stay out of this topic from here on out, unless your reply requires a direct response.
Have fun lady and gentlemen.
