G&R points for not ascended accounts

[Bahamut]

do you know how expensive it si to get a ,libing god?
I dont think so. It shoudl have been far more than half a million UU . And lets dotn talk about the naq.
Now you want a bonus for those who didnot pay all this... Thats just wrong eihter use them for what they were thought or let it be. It simple woudlnot be fair for all those that did it and make the game way to unbalanced..

If you stay the same race you dotn need any bonuy because you safe all the costs of ascending. IF i still had all that i spen d on it. well lets say a 25 % increase to all stats woudl bbe nothing.

well i know how much ascension costs i'm co working on one ascension so i get full info on ascension

but this is simply idea for those that don't wont to ascend, not for those who are on path of enlightment.

it is sugestion for making crossroad for each to choose after that point!

and as for increasment of all status for 25% and with ascended blessing i think it is to much sorry but that is my opinion, and yes multiple ascension is to cheap with all benefits that come, that is also my opinion.

but hey guys who wants to folow path of enlightment fell free,
but give others a chance to choose!

[JIX]

how about using G&R to buy big ass super weapons that could be sabbed away but would be hard to sabb

[WhiteyDude]

G&R is there for ascension. You don't wanna ascend, that's your loss. If you really want those bonuses, ascend anyway and forget about the ascended account. You can still ascend as often as you want and get your prior bonuses. You really don't need another way to get those bonuses. And if you mean getting the bonuses without the costs involved in ascension, then seriously, forget about it.

Exactly. Ascend 6 times and get 30% on everything. .



/Whitey

[[SGC_ReplicÅtors]]

G&R is there for ascension. You don't wanna ascend, that's your loss. If you really want those bonuses, ascend anyway and forget about the ascended account. You can still ascend as often as you want and get your prior bonuses. You really don't need another way to get those bonuses. And if you mean getting the bonuses without the costs involved in ascension, then seriously, forget about it.

Exactly. Ascend 6 times and get 30% on everything. .



/Whitey

thats not fair is it? why not make the gain me diverse? add multi routes tot he game

[Spoon]

<removed regarding ascension discussion outside of ascended forum>

[Bahamut]

thank u spoon for such generous info for firs 5 levels of ascension

but maybe u used wrong tactics for ascending?

did u ask yourself that?

my mate and i, are working as team i'm holding his uu until he do his multiple ascension those are tactics that most of current living gods used.

u say that 50 bilion is to cheap for for first level of this idea

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so that brings us to 9 bilion of naq u lose for first level

and u need 18 bilion to get stuff for next ascension plus covert level and weapons........

to shorten up

but at the end the benefit of fullascension is great! i mean u get your ascended blessing and that is something wow man, doubles def cool stuff,
really great award for succes

Exactly. Ascend 6 times and get 30% on everything. Smile.

/Whitey

i mean aren't u the guy who is always talking how smart u are ?
is that best u can do?

do u all forget how this game looked at the begining?

no banking
no alliances screen
no MS
no technology
unlimited covert action etc

bla bla bla G&R points are for ascension bla bla bla

we heard that allready but since when there is no place for ideas and discusion?

so if u are limited to qouting allready posted and multi repeated posts do not post whitey, u are not alone in this game, there are players that will come and are here and don't have resources for ascension and i my self know a dozen of ppl that quit playing just becaus they find out what are requirements for multiple ascension and in their eyes it looks impossible.

someone will say: F*** them we don't need them !
but i think all should have option to choose!

to follow path of enlightment or to stay on ground

[SGC_Sam Fisher]

My long term plan was to ascend one day, but I would rather go with this idea.

[GhostyGoo]

Big up the Dragon - He knows his stuff

heh

i wasn't when i started this one lol

but back to topic does any1 has some idea about tech upgrade names?

i could use some help with that i still have my own battle with english

How about calling them

"cop out bonuses"?
"cry about something enough and you'll get it bonuses"?
"jealousy bonuses"?
"ha ha look at all you ascended! I won't lose anything because I can't be descended, I bet you feel stupid now bonuses"?
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This whole idea sickens me and I stick by what Wolf has already said (among others) wholeheartedly. GnR points are for ascension, if you do not want to play ascension tough luck, it's your choice. Quit going on about how you want something special just because you have something you don't want to use for it's original purpose. You have a choice Bahamut (and others) if you choose not to ascend, you should not even be watching your ascension points build up.

The only thing i would suggest implementing is a button on your account which says "Flush my GnR down the swanny because I don't want to play ascension" once you hit that button your GnR disappears and ceases to accumulate, that way I don't have to read this rubbish.



GnR is for a s c e n d i n g. End of chat.

but give others a chance to choose!

You make me laugh out loud sometimes Bahamut. Did you see that button you are complaining about, below those "useless" points you are complaining about? Did you press it Bahamut? Choice made then.

*sigh*

If you had no choice in the matter your account would have auto ascended the moment you reached 1000 GnR



Gò.Óº°°

[Spoon]

<removed regarding ascension discussion outside of ascended forum>

I understand why it was removed (a lot of ascension details there) but that took about 15mins to write up. *wanders off muttering about the wasted effort, while looking for a form to fill out about claiming naq back for the time lost that could have been spent farming *

Oh I would like to point out that the post removed was posted to prove to bahamut that ascending isnt cheap just so as the thread doesnt lose its continuity.

[Wolf359]

While I did not remove the post I did agree that it (and others) should be removed.

The route to Ascension should be discovered on your own - not with the foresight of what is required.

For now, everyone should take it as read that details on Ascension, including the requirements to ascend, should be a taboo subject.

I will enquire as to whether your post was saved.

[Bahamut]

i think that all that taboo thing about ascension brought all that confusion

instead to be taboo it should be read only available for thos not ascended

as most things are shared amongst alliances


To GOO
as for crying about something we can't achive

well u can call it that way i really don't mind as for G&R points only for ascended accounts i allready stated my opinion on that more then twice (read this topic)

by the way goo nice to sse u back

please do not spam this topic with some like this

"cop out bonuses"?
"cry about something enough and you'll get it bonuses"?
"jealousy bonuses"?
"ha ha look at all you ascended! I won't lose anything because I can't be descended, I bet you feel stupid now bonuses"?

we heard that to many time in different shapes

In that case - this could be worth looking at further!

was something wrong with that Goo?

this is not about not being able to do that this is a proposal for those that don't wont to do that

jealousy bonuses?

no not really just idea about something that could make game more interesting?

guys don't get me wrong, u that choosed to go with ascension

maybe there could be some free exchange for those that wish to continue as customized main accounts!?

something like if u ascended twice u will geet chance to chooes aditional 2 perks for free on race u choose!?

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<removed regarding ascension discussion outside of ascended forum>

I understand why it was removed (a lot of ascension details there) but that took about 15mins to write up. *wanders off muttering about the wasted effort, while looking for a form to fill out about claiming naq back for the time lost that could have been spent farming *

Oh I would like to point out that the post removed was posted to prove to bahamut that ascending isnt cheap just so as the thread doesnt lose its continuity.

well basicly there wasn't to much info regarding ascension i can see them in details for first one

and basiclly those are things that are known to almost anyone

as for prooving me it isn't cheap well u didn't succed because u alone sugested that this aditional perks for main account should cost arround 250 bilion of naq

well i thing ascension should involve more uu especially if u wiona become living god


this is what i got on mail

Think about,

Just as the ascended accounts have full access to the ancient technologies of their races, unascended accounts should have partial access to the ancient technology. They already have special non-ascended technologies, such as Asgard weaponry.

well basicly more and more info is distributed that way and we can exchange that on alliances fourms so reall there isn't purpose for hiding that info about ascending

[Spoon]

While I did not remove the post I did agree that it (and others) should be removed.

I will enquire as to whether your post was saved.

It doesnt really bother me to much, as I tend to agree that there was far to much chat about ascension going on. As to if my post was saved I very much doubt it, it would take a lot of effort to save all the posts that were deleted and I can work out those values again if I needed to see them.

as for proving me it isn't cheap well u didn't succed because u alone sugested that this aditional perks for main account should cost arround 250 bilion of naq

well i thing ascension should involve more uu especially if u wiona become living god

As I said with that post those were the bare minimums, you really should have doubled them for an accurate picture as it is an expensive process, otherwise you wouldn't be here complaining about it and trying to get something for those who do not wish to ascend.

[Bahamut]

spoon don't get me wrong i didn't wnat to sound rude toward u

i simply think that ascension is to cheap but we van go with that in other topic

can we stay on subject please

onother prpose of G&R points

we all know how much level 23, 24, 25, etc costs

we all know there is +25% an all after fimr time ascending we know there is ascended blesing

we don't know if there are benefits after +25% added even better if they are!

but spoon do u think this is realistic proposal or something else

look at this like u just started playing 1 month ago!

[Spoon]

Im not taking offence by anything that is said here (for that matter I hope Im not coming across as rude), but to go back to being more or less on topic it is a good idea, but it would have to be implemented carefully if it were to be made so as not to penalise those who have already ascended and not been able to reascend as fast.

[Bahamut]

well i didn't suggested penalising ascended ones that aren't living god yet

but i think we need few more constructive posts