The market...

[KnightValor]

The market was probably the worst GateWars addition ever. Its the Gate Wars, not the Gate Traders, as wolf has said before.

My alliance has skyrocketed in ranks from the market and the market only. Leaving me behind. Why? Because I hardly use it.

The market is a whole new, cheap version of PPT. We tried to limit it, but it hardly works, all it does is sometimes makes a player delay their trade-ins a few days.

I think we should change this. Along with the limit of 3 trades per week, I think we should change the idea that multiples count as one trade. My alliance has stopped talking about who attacked who, who is good to attack, who has an unbeatable defense. Instead we talk about our unit production. When we're going to trade in. The market rates. What they bought last time with their naq.

Along with the above suggestion, we should add something else. What would the purpose of the Market be in the real world? Getting money! The market would try to get money! Thus, I think trading in units or turns for money give you half the "value" of trading units for turns (or vice versa), while trading money for units or turns gives you twice the "value" of trading in units for turns (or vice versa). Also, the market should be a player. Literally, a CPU player. It would bank as much money as possible, go on PPT as much as possible, and spend money on defense and spies (no need for offense) as much as possible. To prevent this player from being rank one forever, it would be unranked always. Maybe appearing at the top of each page. You can attack the Market, but then you lose your supporter status.

I know it is a totally out-there idea, but I am sick and tired of my alliance beating me with 100% cheap strategies. Alot of the time, my fellow members even save up turns as opposed to using them, EVEN IF THEY ARE OFFENSIVE TAURI!

We just plain NEED to change this! While I like my idea up there, it would be very, very hard to code, and thus I am open to suggestions from here.

[lord telchac]

My suggestion is stop complaining and get over it you can get strong without using the market so get out there and do it instead of complaining like so many other have. The admin has a great game

[Faithful Tokra]

omg... stupid n00b if the market was not there people would have just bought and sold UU to other players all the market changes it is easier to sell the stuff and you know your not going to be scammed

[lord telchac]

oh god help me i agree with that scum tok'ra

[Addict]

Aye, market was added to stop scams, but i admit KnightValor has a point, the market is abused by some and could do with a revamp for sure.

[thunder]

i really liked trading on the black market, i always got what i wanted right away and i usualy got it for cheap. now with the market in place the black market has become 2 things. selling market turns and selling account

[Londo Mollari]

Knightvalour :Along with the above suggestion, we should add something else. What would the purpose of the Market be in the real world? Getting money! The market would try to get money! Thus, I think trading in units or turns for money give you half the "value" of trading units for turns (or vice versa), while trading money for units or turns gives you twice the "value" of trading in units for turns (or vice versa). Also, the market should be a player. Literally, a CPU player. It would bank as much money as possible, go on PPT as much as possible, and spend money on defense and spies (no need for offense) as much as possible. To prevent this player from being rank one forever, it would be unranked always. Maybe appearing at the top of each page. You can attack the Market, but then you lose your supporter status.

Although i like the idea that Market should be a in-active & unattackable player, i don't think that if u were to attack it that u should lose SS, i mean REALLY lose $20 worth for attacking some 1, thats not fair!!!
And as to making the market make money, yes i think that is a gd idea 'cos frankly admin do desere $$$'s, BUT reducing the amount u get cos u have used is wrong. NOT everybody has loads of $$$'s to spend u know!!!

[Wolf359]

:shock: omg... stupid n00b if the market was not there people would have just bought and sold UU to other players all the market changes it is easier to sell the stuff and you know your not going to be scammed

*Speaking as Mod*

Whether you agree with the point or not, there is no reason to call KnighValor a 'stupid noob' - especially when you have a massive post count of 11! Less of the insults please, or you will ultimately find yourself being banned from the forum.

*Speaking as Player*

As for the issue - KnightValor is correct - in the fact that there is still a lot of abuse that occurs in the market - mainly, in my opinion, regarding PPTs - the answer would be simple - limit PPTs further (2-3 per month and non-consecutive) and therefore make people PLAY the game.

I'm not even convinced that the existing PPT limits are working.

[[SGC_ReplicÅtors]]

Take out PPT go back to paying for it.
Make the market only accesable if u paid for SS.
PPT can only be bought maybe at a reduced price like $5 after u paid the inital original amount of PPT.

[Londo Mollari]

or take it even further and totally remove SS, therefore ensure that even if a guy has multies he can't cheat at all, cos he (nor any1 else) could send themselves or others anything! Maybe u could exclude the mods and admin? I am guessing that you are not going to like it 1 bit but anyhoo.
Pro's: no more cheating through multies
no more scamming on Black Market, all players would HAVE to use the Market (which would be reduced)
keep the PPT limit as it is though!

[Amon]

I don't like the idea of limiting the market to $$ only but in general the idea has merit. Although I'm not entirely sure how to limit it. I certainly noticed a massive increase in the number of MSs when the market rates changed to be able to buy them in one go.

The current PPT system doesn't work that well because those players with gazillions of troops can just get others to donate them a PPT. I watched someone for 8 days straight, waiting and waiting and waiting for them to come off PPT.... god that was painful.

I like the idea KnightValor... Like you though I'm just not entirely sure how to impliment it.

[Faithful Tokra]

*Speaking as Mod*

Whether you agree with the point or not, there is no reason to call KnighValor a 'stupid noob' - especially when you have a massive post count of 11! Less of the insults please, or you will ultimately find yourself being banned from the forum.

your Judging me By my Post Count my knlowlage doesnt grow through my post count here on these fourms

[[SGC_ReplicÅtors]]

or take it even further and totally remove SS, therefore ensure that even if a guy has multies he can't cheat at all, cos he (nor any1 else) could send themselves or others anything! Maybe u could exclude the mods and admin? I am guessing that you are not going to like it 1 bit but anyhoo.
Pro's: no more cheating through multies
no more scamming on Black Market, all players would HAVE to use the Market (which would be reduced)
keep the PPT limit as it is though!

dont get rid of ppt how would forum make $$ i say make them pay if they going to have a multi make them pay for it. Most of the times cheaters wouldnt waste a dime on this game so the idea of multiing would be unapealing.

or increase the inital PPT to maybe $30 and make another other PPT after that $5 each time or something.

[Wolf359]

*Speaking as Mod*

Whether you agree with the point or not, there is no reason to call KnighValor a 'stupid noob' - especially when you have a massive post count of 11! Less of the insults please, or you will ultimately find yourself being banned from the forum.

your Judging me By my Post Count my knlowlage doesnt grow through my post count here on these fourms

*sigh*

Didn't like being called a noob? I guess KnightValor didn't like being called a stupid noob either. Judging by your posts, post count, and lack of understanding of the forum rules, you are exactly that - a forum newcomer.

You have already broken one rule, by needlessly insulting someone - for which I gave you fair warning.

How do you respond? With an apology? No. That's right - by disrespecting a moderator by trying to tell me how I am judging you. Guess what? That's another rule - no disrespecting the moderators! This is especially pertinent given that I specifically identified I was speaking as a Mod.

2 warnings in 14 posts - now that's got to be some kind of a record. Keep this up and you'll be banned by the time you hit 20!

The Forum Rules are there for a reason - Read Them!

Have a nice day.

[Huxley]

Well put Wolf, I find some kids on this anoying too lol