UNJUST MODERATOR!!!

[Drought]

what about it happening in war threads in the past.. why is it just getting addressed now? and why wast harch warned or was he?

jack made initiative to post/start a thread with main ids matching ascended ids
harch helped and posted a long old list with quite a few id's ...
list got removed cos of possible 'stats posting'
jack posted a link to another forum where the list will/would be maintained

after that, lotsa crapholio about posting rules

[Almost38]

yeah i saw the thread and i also saw harch post in it with alot more the the 20 ids jack posted and still shouldnt he only got a warning for the stat posting since clearly the rule was not clear on that fact that linking teh ids would be stat posting

[Drought]

perhaps, perhaps not

didnt he receive a verbal warning first, and a normal warning after he posted a link to the other forum ?
that would have been just

[Almost38]

but linking to another forum isnt breaking teh rules here is it? he never posted the stats here just to another forum.. f he was warned for that shouldnt selling an id list be illegal then? also was the post deleted with the link to another forum

[Almost38]

perhaps, perhaps not

didnt he receive a verbal warning first, and a normal warning after he posted a link to the other forum ?
that would have been just

Mhm. They both received verbals, at first.

then he deserves a warning he should of took this up before posting it again to get the rule changed

[Drought]

indeed, the link posting was intended to circumvent possible applicable rules

and tbh, his comments further down the line about possible getting banned and simply creating another account, is not realy aiding his cause

[Almost38]

so is this going to be enforced all the time now say if play a and b have a vendetta and player a or another player post players b ascened id or name is that breaking the rules?

[Drought]

so is this going to be enforced all the time now say if play a and b have a vendetta and player a or another player post players b ascened id or name is that breaking the rules?

I think that is a whole different situation, those a and b being the ones involved, and able to voice their concerns about what their opposition posted.

In this matter, it concerned a couple of thousand people unaware of their details being spread out on the forum.

[Juliette]

It was more of, to me anyways, the scale of which it was done, it was not 1 or 2 people nor was it just an alliance.

And there we have it. That is a clear reason why not to allow this. Thanks.

[Mordack]

I have no wish to take sides in this debate, but I have some information which might be relevant.

When ascension first came out however many years ago, linking main IDs to ascended IDs was most definitely against the rules. I know this because I, and one other person, were verbally warned for making such a thread in the (then) secret ascension section of the forum. I brought it up with the moderator who spoke to me, and he explained that the orders had come directly from Jason himself as he wanted (a) the ascension server to remain as secret and mysterious as possible and (b) he wanted the two servers to remain entirely separate. At that time, the idea for ascension was that it would be a 'solo' realm and ungoverned by the same alliances as main.

Obviously, this was some time ago, and the ascension server didn't turn out as planned. Nor is it considered secretive or mysterious; the section has been declassified, and information for newbies regarding ascension is as readily available as information regarding the main server. It may be that the moderators who locked that thread, and warned you, were acting on an old precedent. If that was the case, then perhaps we need a full and frank discussion, including staff, users and the ombudsman, about overhauling that precedent to keep it in line with the modern state of the game. I fear this thread itself has gone in an unproductive direction, though.

[Rudy Peña]

I have no wish to take sides in this debate, but I have some information which might be relevant.

When ascension first came out however many years ago, linking main IDs to ascended IDs was most definitely against the rules. I know this because I, and one other person, were verbally warned for making such a thread in the (then) secret ascension section of the forum. I brought it up with the moderator who spoke to me, and he explained that the orders had come directly from Jason himself as he wanted (a) the ascension server to remain as secret and mysterious as possible and (b) he wanted the two servers to remain entirely separate. At that time, the idea for ascension was that it would be a 'solo' realm and ungoverned by the same alliances as main.

Obviously, this was some time ago, and the ascension server didn't turn out as planned. Nor is it considered secretive or mysterious; the section has been declassified, and information for newbies regarding ascension is as readily available as information regarding the main server. It may be that the moderators who locked that thread, and warned you, were acting on an old precedent. If that was the case, then perhaps we need a full and frank discussion, including staff, users and the ombudsman, about overhauling that precedent to keep it in line with the modern state of the game. I fear this thread itself has gone in an unproductive direction, though.

+1

[Almost38]

FYI: I'm not new to the game, and this is my alias forum account. I created it so I couldn't be punished for being honest. (although I suspect 1 or 2 people know who I really am)

Yes some of us do know Sebastian. But who told me? Funny thing is it wasn't even a staff member that told me. Oh well.

and how did u find out check his ip?

[xDaku]

Looks like the votes aren't going your way

Should have spent your time on something more worth it...

[Empy]

FYI: I'm not new to the game, and this is my alias forum account. I created it so I couldn't be punished for being honest. (although I suspect 1 or 2 people know who I really am)

Yes some of us do know Sebastian. But who told me? Funny thing is it wasn't even a staff member that told me. Oh well.

and how did u find out check his ip?

Fairly sure Section Mods can't check IPs. Could be wrong though..

[Almost38]

if they post in his section i think he can