Are Oms considered as staff? Don't the Oms have their own feedback thread in their own section? Sorry but I don't see the point in these two threads when they have their own section. And Oms I don't feel are staff, they aren't told what to do by forum management as they are here to help the users and staff.Haz wrote:Unlocked as they have resumed forum staff roles.
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Re: Psyko - Feedback
Clarkey wrote:Are Oms considered as staff? Don't the Oms have their own feedback thread in their own section? Sorry but I don't see the point in these two threads when they have their own section. And Oms I don't feel are staff, they aren't told what to do by forum management as they are here to help the users and staff.Haz wrote:Unlocked as they have resumed forum staff roles.
I agree with Clarkey, In the Oms section. They have there own feedback thread or can make one.
These 2 ladies are elected by the people of this forum, they are not appointed to there position by the forum admins.
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Re: Psyko - Feedback
Rudy Pena wrote:Clarkey wrote:Are Oms considered as staff? Don't the Oms have their own feedback thread in their own section? Sorry but I don't see the point in these two threads when they have their own section. And Oms I don't feel are staff, they aren't told what to do by forum management as they are here to help the users and staff.Haz wrote:Unlocked as they have resumed forum staff roles.
I agree with Clarkey, In the Oms section. They have there own feedback thread or can make one.
These 2 ladies are elected by the people of this forum, they are not appointed to there position by the forum admins.
They have a job on forums, so I see them as forum staff. And any ombudsman feedback thread would be for the current ombudsman, not Juliette or Psyko specifically.
On a side note, I just checked and couldn't find a feedback thread apart from one in the case archives.
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Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
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SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind
Zeratul wrote:Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".
that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...
Forced labor on the other hand........
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo
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*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Psyko - Feedback
Clarkey wrote:Are Oms considered as staff? Don't the Oms have their own feedback thread in their own section? Sorry but I don't see the point in these two threads when they have their own section. And Oms I don't feel are staff, they aren't told what to do by forum management as they are here to help the users and staff.Haz wrote:Unlocked as they have resumed forum staff roles.
They are staff.
But I was wondering the same thing.
Haz wrote:And any ombudsman feedback thread would be for the current ombudsman, not Juliette or Psyko specifically.
Doesn't matter, since they are the current ombudsmen.
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Re: Psyko - Feedback
Then the Oms feedback thread should be moved back or a new one started. Haz you say it's for the current Oms and not the individual specifically, well they are the current Oms and therefore should be using that. Then when they are no longer Oms you should be unlocking these threads if they return to duty as Mods.Haz wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Clarkey wrote:Are Oms considered as staff? Don't the Oms have their own feedback thread in their own section? Sorry but I don't see the point in these two threads when they have their own section. And Oms I don't feel are staff, they aren't told what to do by forum management as they are here to help the users and staff.Haz wrote:Unlocked as they have resumed forum staff roles.
I agree with Clarkey, In the Oms section. They have there own feedback thread or can make one.
These 2 ladies are elected by the people of this forum, they are not appointed to there position by the forum admins.
They have a job on forums, so I see them as forum staff. And any ombudsman feedback thread would be for the current ombudsman, not Juliette or Psyko specifically.
On a side note, I just checked and couldn't find a feedback thread apart from one in the case archives.
@Jack, i disagree on using the term forum staff for Oms, but that's just me.
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Re: Psyko - Feedback
Clarkey wrote:Then the Oms feedback thread should be moved back or a new one started. Haz you say it's for the current Oms and not the individual specifically, well they are the current Oms and therefore should be using that. Then when they are no longer Oms you should be unlocking these threads if they return to duty as Mods.Haz wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Clarkey wrote:Are Oms considered as staff? Don't the Oms have their own feedback thread in their own section? Sorry but I don't see the point in these two threads when they have their own section. And Oms I don't feel are staff, they aren't told what to do by forum management as they are here to help the users and staff.Haz wrote:Unlocked as they have resumed forum staff roles.
I agree with Clarkey, In the Oms section. They have there own feedback thread or can make one.
These 2 ladies are elected by the people of this forum, they are not appointed to there position by the forum admins.
They have a job on forums, so I see them as forum staff. And any ombudsman feedback thread would be for the current ombudsman, not Juliette or Psyko specifically.
On a side note, I just checked and couldn't find a feedback thread apart from one in the case archives.
@Jack, i disagree on using the term forum staff for Oms, but that's just me.
Why not just use the existing threads?
I see the ombudsman as part of the staff, they have a job here right? Handling disputes between users and mods, discussing with the admins and proposing solutions. They may not have a practical job (actually modding threads or anything like that) but they do help to resolve user/mod issues.
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CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind
Zeratul wrote:Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".
that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...
Forced labor on the other hand........
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo
SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Psyko - Feedback
The difference of them being part of the staff, is that they were elected by the people of this forum. They were not appointed to this position by applying for it to the 3 forum admins who decide to have them in at position.Haz wrote:Clarkey wrote:Then the Oms feedback thread should be moved back or a new one started. Haz you say it's for the current Oms and not the individual specifically, well they are the current Oms and therefore should be using that. Then when they are no longer Oms you should be unlocking these threads if they return to duty as Mods.Haz wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Clarkey wrote:Are Oms considered as staff? Don't the Oms have their own feedback thread in their own section? Sorry but I don't see the point in these two threads when they have their own section. And Oms I don't feel are staff, they aren't told what to do by forum management as they are here to help the users and staff.Haz wrote:Unlocked as they have resumed forum staff roles.
I agree with Clarkey, In the Oms section. They have there own feedback thread or can make one.
These 2 ladies are elected by the people of this forum, they are not appointed to there position by the forum admins.
They have a job on forums, so I see them as forum staff. And any ombudsman feedback thread would be for the current ombudsman, not Juliette or Psyko specifically.
On a side note, I just checked and couldn't find a feedback thread apart from one in the case archives.
@Jack, i disagree on using the term forum staff for Oms, but that's just me.
Why not just use the existing threads?
I see the ombudsman as part of the staff, they have a job here right? Handling disputes between users and mods, discussing with the admins and proposing solutions. They may not have a practical job (actually modding threads or anything like that) but they do help to resolve user/mod issues.
They have there own part of the forum where they can make there own feedback thread for there time in service in that position. Just like the people before them have done, if after there term is up and they become mods again. Then sure they can have there threads here opened again.
This part of the forum is forum and mod feedback. They are not part of the Mod team at this time. If you read what it says before you click the link to here,
they are not part of the current forum mods.want to publicly say something about the current Forum Mods? The Mod setup? The Rules of the Forum? here you go...
Which means that they dont need there threads open here for they are no longer mods at this time.
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Geez, if it is such a bother, lock them. They are right, Ombudsman feedback takes place in Ombudsman Feedback thread.
If you want the matter of "Ombudsman: staff vs. not staff" resolved, have an admin answer it.
As far as I am concerned, we are staff, albeit the only elected kind. *grin* Of course, it does not matter either way.
If you want the matter of "Ombudsman: staff vs. not staff" resolved, have an admin answer it.
As far as I am concerned, we are staff, albeit the only elected kind. *grin* Of course, it does not matter either way.
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Whether you are considered staff or not is neither here nor there really, but I just can't understand how an Ombudsman who is meant to be neutral and on neither side of the users or the forum staff can label themselves as forum staff, kinda defeats the purpose.
Anyway it makes sense to keep the old Ombudsman feedback thread or create a fresh one for the new term. I don't understand why it was archived in the first place over a month ago, did you girls not want feedback on the new Oms office?
Anyway it makes sense to keep the old Ombudsman feedback thread or create a fresh one for the new term. I don't understand why it was archived in the first place over a month ago, did you girls not want feedback on the new Oms office?
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Re: Feedback thread discussion
The ombudsman mediates. Lawyers are part of the judicial system, are they not? Is the judicial system not part of the government as per Montesquieu?Clarkey wrote:Whether you are considered staff or not is neither here nor there really, but I just can't understand how an Ombudsman who is meant to be neutral and on neither side of the users or the forum staff can label themselves as forum staff, kinda defeats the purpose.
We do not mediate between staff and users. We mediate between forum members. For instance, Bobby, who has an issue with Bill, can come to us and ask for our Solomon's verdict. Of course, that hardly ever happens, since most people can resolve their own issues.
As per the earlier definition, we are 'supported' by the Administration (i.e. we exist by their grace) to mediate issues that arise. We do not have 'authority', but as far as I am aware, we are part of the staff.
Now I am curious and would like an answer.
It was archived since we both read it, and we are a different team from the previous ombudsman. There has not been much to give feedback on, we wanted to wait a month or some cases, before making a feedback thread. I agree that we could set one up now, but of the three PMs about our functioning that we received it would not be necessary to have them listed in public. I'll have a chat with Psyko.Clarkey wrote:Anyway it makes sense to keep the old Ombudsman feedback thread or create a fresh one for the new term. I don't understand why it was archived in the first place over a month ago, did you girls not want feedback on the new Oms office?
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Re: Feedback thread discussion
They work for the forum, that makes them staff, just not mods.
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Re: Feedback thread discussion
ربهالنوع wrote:The ombudsman mediates. Lawyers are part of the judicial system, are they not? Is the judicial system not part of the government as per Montesquieu?Clarkey wrote:Whether you are considered staff or not is neither here nor there really, but I just can't understand how an Ombudsman who is meant to be neutral and on neither side of the users or the forum staff can label themselves as forum staff, kinda defeats the purpose.
We do not mediate between staff and users. We mediate between forum members. For instance, Bobby, who has an issue with Bill, can come to us and ask for our Solomon's verdict. Of course, that hardly ever happens, since most people can resolve their own issues.
As per the earlier definition, we are 'supported' by the Administration (i.e. we exist by their grace) to mediate issues that arise. We do not have 'authority', but as far as I am aware, we are part of the staff.
Now I am curious and would like an answer.It was archived since we both read it, and we are a different team from the previous ombudsman. There has not been much to give feedback on, we wanted to wait a month or some cases, before making a feedback thread. I agree that we could set one up now, but of the three PMs about our functioning that we received it would not be necessary to have them listed in public. I'll have a chat with Psyko.Clarkey wrote:Anyway it makes sense to keep the old Ombudsman feedback thread or create a fresh one for the new term. I don't understand why it was archived in the first place over a month ago, did you girls not want feedback on the new Oms office?
What she said, so eloquently.
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Re: Feedback thread discussion
I honestly don't see why there's such a big fuss over whether to keep their threads open. If it gets spammed up, I clean it out and warn those involved. Simple
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CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind
Zeratul wrote:Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".
that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...
Forced labor on the other hand........
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo
SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Feedback thread discussion
Haz wrote:I honestly don't see why there's such a big fuss over whether to keep their threads open. If it gets spammed up, I clean it out and warn those involved. Simple
Yeah, my thread is all of what...? 1 comment?!?!?! OH NOES! Close it down!!! QUICK!!
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