Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

[BMMJ13]

TAF has no plans on dominating the server. My goal for TAF is to be left alone so I can enjoy a nice retirement on a beach somewhere. That's not to say bad things won't happen in the future, but we've kicked one member for bullying or random massing (almost another) in recent days and anyone that knows us knows we stand by our principles.

Some people don't deserve to be let off easily. We could have stooped to their level and called for their disbandment...declaring that they should never be allowed to reform an alliance with over x members. Or called for removal of Alpha so that they'd never again be an empire. We're not about making people quit the game or destroying pieces of game history. That said, when we're winning a war in the manner we are this one, we're not going to so easily let our opponent off the hook with a handshake and a pat on the back...not after this.

No, a player told you to remove him because you where trying to bully said player into paying into extortion. particularly paying said currencies to a player that no more than 3 days later admitted he could care less and thanked said player for the relations they'd had in recent days.

You were removed because you massed a friendly alliance's member on ascended to get a damn demi god, then when we told you to repay his losses you made up excuses like you were educating him on whats right to do or that he deserved it for being such an easy target. You were told to repay his losses or leave TAF, which you **Filtered** about extortion and then were kicked. Keep on making up **Filtered** about TAF and we will come for you, no matter where you try and hide. How's that for bullying.

[~RaZor~]

[doc holliday]

TAF has no plans on dominating the server. My goal for TAF is to be left alone so I can enjoy a nice retirement on a beach somewhere. That's not to say bad things won't happen in the future, but we've kicked one member for bullying or random massing (almost another) in recent days and anyone that knows us knows we stand by our principles.

Some people don't deserve to be let off easily. We could have stooped to their level and called for their disbandment...declaring that they should never be allowed to reform an alliance with over x members. Or called for removal of Alpha so that they'd never again be an empire. We're not about making people quit the game or destroying pieces of game history. That said, when we're winning a war in the manner we are this one, we're not going to so easily let our opponent off the hook with a handshake and a pat on the back...not after this.

No, a player told you to remove him because you where trying to bully said player into paying into extortion. particularly paying said currencies to a player that no more than 3 days later admitted he could care less and thanked said player for the relations they'd had in recent days.

You were removed because you massed a friendly alliance's member on ascended to get a damn demi god, then when we told you to repay his losses you made up excuses like you were educating him on whats right to do or that he deserved it for being such an easy target. You were told to repay his losses or leave TAF, which you **Filtered** about extortion and then were kicked. Keep on making up **Filtered** about TAF and we will come for you, no matter where you try and hide. How's that for bullying.

the last part was pretty good betty.

[~Tziki~]

TAF has no plans on dominating the server. My goal for TAF is to be left alone so I can enjoy a nice retirement on a beach somewhere. That's not to say bad things won't happen in the future, but we've kicked one member for bullying or random massing (almost another) in recent days and anyone that knows us knows we stand by our principles.

Some people don't deserve to be let off easily. We could have stooped to their level and called for their disbandment...declaring that they should never be allowed to reform an alliance with over x members. Or called for removal of Alpha so that they'd never again be an empire. We're not about making people quit the game or destroying pieces of game history. That said, when we're winning a war in the manner we are this one, we're not going to so easily let our opponent off the hook with a handshake and a pat on the back...not after this.

No, a player told you to remove him because you where trying to bully said player into paying into extortion. particularly paying said currencies to a player that no more than 3 days later admitted he could care less and thanked said player for the relations they'd had in recent days.

You were removed because you massed a friendly alliance's member on ascended to get a damn demi god, then when we told you to repay his losses you made up excuses like you were educating him on whats right to do or that he deserved it for being such an easy target. You were told to repay his losses or leave TAF, which you **Filtered** about extortion and then were kicked. Keep on making up **Filtered** about TAF and we will come for you, no matter where you try and hide. How's that for bullying.

there is no **Filtered** being made up betty, wow i almost called your rudy or huxley then...
The reason you have just given for my "massing" was one of many reasons i told you COULD be why i did it. NOT WHY i did do it. The player has since spoken to me and said it was fair game and has no ill regards towards me after i politely apologised for choosing him as my believed inactive target. So yea... taf where trying to force themselves on someone... sound like a certain alliance taf know and hate?

your not so different.
and threats to mass someone for stating the truth? id try harder to prove my point but i think you just did it for me.

enjoy your war on anti bullying...

[BMMJ13]

You massed a random player we were not at war with, doesn't matter if they were active or innactive. You were told to repay his losses and called it extortion, after which you were kicked. If you are in TAF you have to live up to higher standards, you chose to call it extortion and refused to repay what you had killed, so you were kicked. Keep trying to act like it wasn't your fault , I could care less, however you continue to suggest we were extorting you rather than trying to keep you to a higher standard, and well, we can't be held accountable for what happens after that.

[~Tziki~]

You massed a random player we were not at war with, doesn't matter if they were active or innactive. You were told to repay his losses and called it extortion, after which you were kicked. If you are in TAF you have to live up to higher standards, you chose to call it extortion and refused to repay what you had killed, so you were kicked. Keep trying to act like it wasn't your fault , I could care less, however you suggest we were extorting you rather than trying to keep you to a higher standard, and well, we can't be held accountable for what happens after that.

I believe it was "you have to pay what ever rate of conversion they decide" and since there is no rate of conversion for planets that hold no value to the owner... then it would be extortion.

You will also find betty, that i was removed through my personal choice not through yours or taf hc. If you recall correctly i told you all what YOUR options where regarding it, and what i would and would not do, and if that is unsuitable for you then you may remove me.

now as i said, enjoy your war. if you wish to have this discussion i suggest you do it via PM's to avoid further admission or insinuation of bullying cases or statements about future bullying.

[BMMJ13]

Just because an item has no inherent value, doesn't mean it's worthless. The two groups involved would of decided on what a reasonable rate was, and even then you could of left if you had wanted to, but instead you refused to even try to fix your mistake from massing randomly and your ego caused you to leave/be kicked from TAF.

[Richard B Riddick]

Betty, tziki, i got something for you guys :p

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[~Tziki~]

Just because an item has no inherent value, doesn't mean it's worthless. The two groups involved would of decided on what a reasonable rate was, and even then you could of left if you had wanted to, but instead you refused to even try to fix your mistake from massing randomly and your ego caused you to leave/be kicked from TAF.

i already said what i did and what i would have been willing to do to fix the issue. and the player accepted that. so no i didnt refuse to fix it. betty your memory of this event is either very bad or your taking a leaf out of huxley's book. Either way, please drop this. The issue and point itself is not related to my personal feelings or ego, but to TAF's behaviour and new found attitude over the last few weeks.

with that said i politely request that you refrain from discussing it further. I have no objections to your oppinion or defending of your alliance reputation but do not twist the truth of what i said or did, if you wish to address that issue then PM/msn is the place for it. I would prefer to take my leave from this thread now, so can you please keep any replies to this post in manner of which that does not require me to comment any further.

@guererro: I agree always lightening the mood

[Mathlord]

You told us you provided him with an invaluable service of learning how not to build his account. You said you educated him and that's all the payment he needed. That is unacceptable behavior by any TAF member.

Not every player fits with how we play the game and that's okay. You found a more suitable home for your game play. We are not, nor have ever been, the educators and we want nothing to do with that sort of gaming.

[Dexter Morgan™]

You massed a random player we were not at war with, doesn't matter if they were active or innactive. You were told to repay his losses and called it extortion, after which you were kicked. If you are in TAF you have to live up to higher standards, you chose to call it extortion and refused to repay what you had killed, so you were kicked. Keep trying to act like it wasn't your fault , I could care less, however you continue to suggest we were extorting you rather than trying to keep you to a higher standard, and well, we can't be held accountable for what happens after that.

talk to strike force bmmj, you got quite the charectors atm massing FS people still........

[Mathlord]

And how much naq did you have out?

[harchester]

did someone mention the Educators

but i agree everyoone stop posting crappp

[Richard B Riddick]

harch telling people to stop posting crap oO

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[~RaZor~]

lol gurrero do you have a pic for everything