'Multiiing'

[Bromas]

Andy - Reinhardt GW name says:
*I might vac this acc and start a new one
Thomas Magnum - SS says:
*can you even do that
Andy - Reinhardt GW name says:
*aslong as one is on vac I can
allan says:
*yes voc one then the other
Thomas Magnum - SS says:
*are you sure


If I vacced one acc I could make a new one and not be a multi, correct?

And swap back and forth, e.g.
acc 1 - non vac
acc 2 - vac

Swap

Acc 1 - Vac
Acc 2 - Non vac

[SSG EnterTheLion]

no..I believe the principle is if you buy an account..and haven't got sale for your old account, you cannot take the account you vacated out of vacation mode until it's sold or given away to someone else. So basically once it's in vacation mode, effectively it is no longer yours to use.

[Bromas]

Just realised its friday and I can get someone to ask J

[Kjarkur]

no..I believe the principle is if you buy an account..and haven't got sale for your old account, you cannot take the account you vacated out of vacation mode until it's sold or given away to someone else. So basically once it's in vacation mode, effectively it is no longer yours to use.

Exactly.

You're not using one account to benefit the other, or both accounts to benefit you - as one of them is not in use.

-KJ

[Massacre]

Ya i think its as long as theres only 1 active account then ur ok. Regardless of if its new or a bought one or anything. Thats just my understanding, however...to go on your old account you would first have to vac ur new account, if your plan is to build an account from 0 to TUK, you would have to remain on that account as long as u wanted to gain the GnR. I do not think this is against rules, I am not sure though. Just as long as there is only 1 active -non vacced account at a time. Any more than that, to my knowledge would be considered multi. There may be some exceptions, such as if you just purchased your account, and are in the process of selling your old one that same day, the admin may not judge too harshly on that account...but just ask, I have in fact had 2 accounts at one time though only for a couple hours, when purchasing my new account and then changing my passwords / emails on my old one to sell. They were both active, but one was out of my control shortly after.

[MEZZANINE]

Many people dont even bother vacationing as potential buyers like to see the account actually exists and spy it to check levels etc, Ive had accounts in the past when I traded and just left them floating dead & inactive in space, having the logins doesnt break any rules, only logging in to them does, and admin has many times given people a 'grace' period of a few hours to transfer their resources from old accounts to new ones when they switch.

Only real reasons to vacation the old account is

1) If it has nice planets/stats you dont want it to lose as they will add to the sale price

2) To prevent descension by vacationing the ascended account

[GeneralChaos]

You could have 5 accounts, aslong as 4 of them are on Vac mode at anyone time, thus you are not gaining an advantage from the ones on vac mode, so your only playing 1 account per server, but make sure its on VAC mode before you take the other one off vac mode, although why would you want to do that, takes alot of investment into an account to make it decent, let alone 2 accounts.

[Norbe]

Wasn't it caprica/epic god that got banned for having lots of accounts on vac mode and switching between them too often?

If I vacced one acc I could make a new one and not be a multi, correct?

And swap back and forth, e.g.

It's the back AND forth that's a problem. AFAIK Admin defines multi'ing as "two or more accounts that exist purely to benefit one account or player over another".

In this case, if what you are suggesting was completely legal then you could have two accounts, be switching back and forth each week in order to get 2 sets of MTs, hense lots of personal ATs to use for farming/raiding. That would be to gain an advantage over others, and be multi'ing.

Another possibility is you attack someone using one account, vac it, and are except from retaliation. A month or so later you switch back after they have forgotten all about it. Thus gaining advantage. Thus multi'ing.

Having said all of that. Vac'ing a main account, starting fresh and playing that for a while isn't a problem. I think someone might even get away with vac'ing the new and switching back after a few months. Not sure if resources are legally allowed to be transfered with the switch back, but if you are working with a lesser account for that period of time you are actually at a disadvantage.

~Norbe~

[Clarkey]

I know for a fact that a few years back someone put their main account on vac, created a new account under a different identity to cause trouble to someone, then after deleted that account and brought their main account off vac, and no-one (well besides me at least) was the wiser as to who it was therefore not putting their main account at risk. I know for a fact that the person in question was sent a message from admin warning them not to do it again or they'd get banned.

[jedi~tank]

I know for a fact that a few years back someone put their main account on vac, created a new account under a different identity to cause trouble to someone, then after deleted that account and brought their main account off vac, and no-one (well besides me at least) was the wiser as to who it was therefore not putting their main account at risk. I know for a fact that the person in question was sent a message from admin warning them not to do it again or they'd get banned.

A similar tactic has been used in recent wars as well..without an ip match is there no other way to eliminate this kind of cheating?

[GeneralChaos]

I know for a fact that a few years back someone put their main account on vac, created a new account under a different identity to cause trouble to someone, then after deleted that account and brought their main account off vac, and no-one (well besides me at least) was the wiser as to who it was therefore not putting their main account at risk. I know for a fact that the person in question was sent a message from admin warning them not to do it again or they'd get banned.

A similar tactic has been used in recent wars as well..without an ip match is there no other way to eliminate this kind of cheating?

Ok out right harrassing someone is different, or to use it to get a gain, but if someone ( which i believe the OP was talking about ) put there main account on vac mode, and started a new account to maybe try something different, and didnt transfer resources, or harrass someone in particular, then i see no problems as your only playing 1 account.

[ƒëmmë]

there should be some tightening of this,

I could be in a war/vendy declare I am leaving and put acc on vac mode and be in one alliance, start anew as someone else with a new acc in another alliance.. and find myself in a war with the alliance my other acc is in..

theoretically I could change acc and alliances mid war

though "legit" not within the spirit of game.

Even without the above scenerio I don't think switching back and forth is within the spirit of game either.. and where does the switching end.. can u have a main of one acc on vac and the ascended of another and play the better of both when the mood suits you?

[Bromas]

I was thinking of vaccing main and asc, starting a new acc and only switching back in times of war or if I where to go on holiday or vac for another reason I would switch accounts

[Massacre]

I know for a fact that a few years back someone put their main account on vac, created a new account under a different identity to cause trouble to someone, then after deleted that account and brought their main account off vac, and no-one (well besides me at least) was the wiser as to who it was therefore not putting their main account at risk. I know for a fact that the person in question was sent a message from admin warning them not to do it again or they'd get banned.

A similar tactic has been used in recent wars as well..without an ip match is there no other way to eliminate this kind of cheating?

I am assuming yes, there are much longer routes to combat this cheating, however it would require looking in the log files over long periods of time and trying to basically triangulate without a doubt that the person is a cheater, IP is no problem however multi's are most likely getting smarter nowadays. To put it simply, if there is any transfer of resources from 1 account to another per say, its in the logs...even if u give the naq to a friend, and the naq then is transferred to you. The naq any resources etc are all logged. It would take digging, and not sure the admin would typically be in favor of that, but every "multi" serves a purpose, let it be for resource gains, warring, or anything else. Cheaters will always be present in every game, however with a little bit of know-how, and a bit of going over the evidence I think that the cheaters can be eliminated, the only problem would be to keep them off, as that can be difficult too.