So what changed? I mean Icebreaker was reported well over a year ago and yet only now something is done.
When people first started talking about Ice some even decided to start scripting themselves e.g. nanobite. In his leaving thread he sed he even told admin that he was using scripts yet hes back now and actively playing again, the reason for this is as many have posted above is, oh admin didn't do anything to Ice he wont treat me any different god knows how many scripters are playing now and how many more will start to play...
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Couzens wrote:So what changed? I mean Icebreaker was reported well over a year ago and yet only now something is done.
When people first started talking about Ice some even decided to start scripting themselves e.g. nanobite. In his leaving thread he sed he even told admin that he was using scripts yet hes back now and actively playing again, the reason for this is as many have posted above is, oh admin didn't do anything to Ice he wont treat me any different god knows how many scripters are playing now and how many more will start to play...
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Not necessarily the case. People will risk losing things from their accounts like Ice did. Ok it's not much of a punishment, but don't act as if adminJ did nothing to Ice.Couzens wrote:So what changed? I mean Icebreaker was reported well over a year ago and yet only now something is done.
When people first started talking about Ice some even decided to start scripting themselves e.g. nanobite. In his leaving thread he sed he even told admin that he was using scripts yet hes back now and actively playing again, the reason for this is as many have posted above is, oh admin didn't do anything to Ice he wont treat me any different god knows how many scripters are playing now and how many more will start to play...
Plus, if this is the first instance that adminJ has seen someone doing exactly whatever Ice was doing, then adminJ should make a decision now to label it as cheating and anyone caught using this method from this point onwards will be dealt with as a cheater.
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If simple things like tamper data are not allowed neither should whatever icebreaker was doing.

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when you leave, you can't live without it


The forces of Loki™ rush in full force, and inflict 1,086,054,534,340,000 damage on Pooop's forces!
It was confirmed that 12,620,737 of Pooop's forces fell at the hands of Loki™'s assult.
The forces of Pooop fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 481,837,854,506,000 damage on Loki™'s forces!
They managed to eradicate 1,988,050 of Loki™'s troops.
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And i hope that adminJ will no longer allow it now that it has been recognised. You are all making it sound like it is ok to do it.Loki™ wrote:If simple things like tamper data are not allowed neither should whatever icebreaker was doing.
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Two separate but both hopefully illegal things.Eärendil wrote:Lols. Two separate thingsLoki™ wrote:If simple things like tamper data are not allowed neither should whatever icebreaker was doing.

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Of course they should. Mechanisation should never have been allowed to begin with. Point of the matter is proving people use things like that. From a cheater's point of view Ice slipped up, giving admin the evidence he needed to prosecute. Ah well.Eärendil wrote:If so, then every alliance that uses/used it to keep an eye on alliance attack logs should be banned.Cersei Lannister wrote:Two separate but both hopefully illegal things.Eärendil wrote:Lols. Two separate thingsLoki™ wrote:If simple things like tamper data are not allowed neither should whatever icebreaker was doing.
Yes, do erase alliances who use illegitimate means to compete.

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Re: IceBreaker Message to GW community - Read
Eärendil wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:Two separate but both hopefully illegal things.Eärendil wrote:Lols. Two separate thingsLoki™ wrote:If simple things like tamper data are not allowed neither should whatever icebreaker was doing.
If so, then every alliance that uses/used it to keep an eye on alliance attack logs should be banned.
What are you talking about? Alliances refreshing alliance logs to see if they get attacked? That is hardly the same, that actually requires an alliance command position online to go and repair the defence weps when they are getting massed


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hmmm....
Quite disappointed of course, but after an investigation within my own alliance forums, seems people who were once in our alliance(s) also used scripts. As much as I am against the use of scripts, they will always be used. Most people dont actually read the ToS when they filled out the registration, so some who play other games might think its ok, maybe though since they got away with it there, they might do the same here. You cannot stop it completely.
Also, the fact Ice, came out and apologized and putting up with all the crap in this thread shows you and that he acknowledged he did something wrong. It may have taken being reported a few times, it was still done. If he changes great, if he doesnt, we all know who he is.
Quite disappointed of course, but after an investigation within my own alliance forums, seems people who were once in our alliance(s) also used scripts. As much as I am against the use of scripts, they will always be used. Most people dont actually read the ToS when they filled out the registration, so some who play other games might think its ok, maybe though since they got away with it there, they might do the same here. You cannot stop it completely.
Also, the fact Ice, came out and apologized and putting up with all the crap in this thread shows you and that he acknowledged he did something wrong. It may have taken being reported a few times, it was still done. If he changes great, if he doesnt, we all know who he is.

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Re: IceBreaker Message to GW community - Read
Eärendil wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:Two separate but both hopefully illegal things.Eärendil wrote:Lols. Two separate thingsLoki™ wrote:If simple things like tamper data are not allowed neither should whatever icebreaker was doing.
If so, then every alliance that uses/used it to keep an eye on alliance attack logs should be banned.
Please do tell what makes you think icebreaker used auto refresh? How would that even benefit farming?

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when you leave, you can't live without it
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The forces of Loki™ rush in full force, and inflict 1,086,054,534,340,000 damage on Pooop's forces!
It was confirmed that 12,620,737 of Pooop's forces fell at the hands of Loki™'s assult.
The forces of Pooop fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 481,837,854,506,000 damage on Loki™'s forces!
They managed to eradicate 1,988,050 of Loki™'s troops.
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Because refreshing the page adds an extra unneeded instant.
These are basic things about farming Eare. Everytime you refresh a page you risk lag. Now, a little common sense would tell anyone that if a guy is emptying out farms in a second, he's not going to risk lag.

These are basic things about farming Eare. Everytime you refresh a page you risk lag. Now, a little common sense would tell anyone that if a guy is emptying out farms in a second, he's not going to risk lag.



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Now picture your worst nightmare, the grass turned into trenches of mud, rain drenching you, ice winds, down to rations, surrounded by death and destruction
Turning your dreams into nightmares is what we do, heed this warning and pass it on, else you will forget your serenity forever
Blood in 2012 - Updated 1st Sep, 2012:
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Attack Soldiers killed: 32,934,122
Defence Soldiers killed: 17,810,494
Attack Supers killed: 777,708,800
Defence Supers killed: 1,004,092,379
Spy Killers killed: 301,726,911
Spies Killed: 1,223,520,310
Total: 3,357,793,016
Raiders lost: 5,324,560
Guards lost: 14,223,773
Super Soldiers lost: 907,918,161
Super Guards lost: 654,870,558
Undercover Agents lost: 411,831,764
Assassin lost: 269,766,078
Total: 2,263,934,894
Defence Soldiers killed: 17,810,494
Attack Supers killed: 777,708,800
Defence Supers killed: 1,004,092,379
Spy Killers killed: 301,726,911
Spies Killed: 1,223,520,310
Total: 3,357,793,016
Raiders lost: 5,324,560
Guards lost: 14,223,773
Super Soldiers lost: 907,918,161
Super Guards lost: 654,870,558
Undercover Agents lost: 411,831,764
Assassin lost: 269,766,078
Total: 2,263,934,894
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Eärendil wrote:Loki™ wrote:Eärendil wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:Two separate but both hopefully illegal things.Eärendil wrote:Lols. Two separate thingsLoki™ wrote:If simple things like tamper data are not allowed neither should whatever icebreaker was doing.
If so, then every alliance that uses/used it to keep an eye on alliance attack logs should be banned.
Please do tell what makes you think icebreaker used auto refresh? How would that even benefit farming?
Who said he doesn't?
I did because it doesn't help. You don't want to refresh that page when farming 'cept about 1 minute into the turn because at about that time you risk getting 0 hits if you don't refresh.

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George Hazard says:
thats what happens, HVE takes your soul and gives you an awesome high
when you leave, you can't live without it
thats what happens, HVE takes your soul and gives you an awesome high
when you leave, you can't live without it


The forces of Loki™ rush in full force, and inflict 1,086,054,534,340,000 damage on Pooop's forces!
It was confirmed that 12,620,737 of Pooop's forces fell at the hands of Loki™'s assult.
The forces of Pooop fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 481,837,854,506,000 damage on Loki™'s forces!
They managed to eradicate 1,988,050 of Loki™'s troops.
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Either way it is all speculation.
None of you know what Icebreaker was using. adminJ says it's in a "grey" zone, yet all you know-it alls claim it is cheating, yet you don't know what it actually is.
None of you know what Icebreaker was using. adminJ says it's in a "grey" zone, yet all you know-it alls claim it is cheating, yet you don't know what it actually is.
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Clarkey wrote:Either way it is all speculation.
None of you know what Icebreaker was using. adminJ says it's in a "grey" zone, yet all you know-it alls claim it is cheating, yet you don't know what it actually is.
It's called using common sense.
Whatever he used was an unfair advantage outside of the game's framework.
A.K.A - Cheating.


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Easy^ wrote: I am sorry if my shadow is too awesome for you to stand in.
E
MEZZANINE wrote:
Oooo I like higher math
E=Mc2*SGW = ( ( U = A*S*S ) + ( JT + $$$ + E*G*O ) ) + ( FS = AWESOME + Infinity ). Therefor FS -> DDE![]()
Yyith wrote:Yyith says:
thats why women have small feet
get closer to the sink
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Mezzanine wrote:Picture a hot summers day, sitting on the grass ( maybe smoking it too lol ), sun shining, cool breeze, cold beer, beautiful lady, perfect Serenity
Now picture your worst nightmare, the grass turned into trenches of mud, rain drenching you, ice winds, down to rations, surrounded by death and destruction
Turning your dreams into nightmares is what we do, heed this warning and pass it on, else you will forget your serenity forever
Blood in 2012 - Updated 1st Sep, 2012:
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Attack Soldiers killed: 32,934,122
Defence Soldiers killed: 17,810,494
Attack Supers killed: 777,708,800
Defence Supers killed: 1,004,092,379
Spy Killers killed: 301,726,911
Spies Killed: 1,223,520,310
Total: 3,357,793,016
Raiders lost: 5,324,560
Guards lost: 14,223,773
Super Soldiers lost: 907,918,161
Super Guards lost: 654,870,558
Undercover Agents lost: 411,831,764
Assassin lost: 269,766,078
Total: 2,263,934,894
Defence Soldiers killed: 17,810,494
Attack Supers killed: 777,708,800
Defence Supers killed: 1,004,092,379
Spy Killers killed: 301,726,911
Spies Killed: 1,223,520,310
Total: 3,357,793,016
Raiders lost: 5,324,560
Guards lost: 14,223,773
Super Soldiers lost: 907,918,161
Super Guards lost: 654,870,558
Undercover Agents lost: 411,831,764
Assassin lost: 269,766,078
Total: 2,263,934,894
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Attacking me won't get your point across, especially when you have no point.
A few people quit because, and if you knew anything about farming well rudy, it was practically impossible to farm and keep up with the $$ spenders.
The few days Icebreaker was banned, I was farming 6-9T per TC. I know someone who was doing a bit higher.
When Icebreaker was using his "tool", I was farming 2-4T per TC. I happen to have one of the best low strike high income farm lists in the game atm. Other people were getting 500b-1T. To farm when Icebreaker wasn't around, was a time that most people were asleep during.
Don't talk about something you have no clue about. Build a proper farm list, go farming, let me know how it goes. Then take away 75% of what you farm on average per TC, and you get over a year of farming when Ice was around. The farms were being wiped within 1 second of a TC.
It's not that people didn't try to farm, it's that it was virtually impossible to do so and stay even remotely in range of the spenders.
A few people quit because, and if you knew anything about farming well rudy, it was practically impossible to farm and keep up with the $$ spenders.
The few days Icebreaker was banned, I was farming 6-9T per TC. I know someone who was doing a bit higher.
When Icebreaker was using his "tool", I was farming 2-4T per TC. I happen to have one of the best low strike high income farm lists in the game atm. Other people were getting 500b-1T. To farm when Icebreaker wasn't around, was a time that most people were asleep during.
Don't talk about something you have no clue about. Build a proper farm list, go farming, let me know how it goes. Then take away 75% of what you farm on average per TC, and you get over a year of farming when Ice was around. The farms were being wiped within 1 second of a TC.
It's not that people didn't try to farm, it's that it was virtually impossible to do so and stay even remotely in range of the spenders.


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Easy^ wrote: I am sorry if my shadow is too awesome for you to stand in.
E
MEZZANINE wrote:
Oooo I like higher math
E=Mc2*SGW = ( ( U = A*S*S ) + ( JT + $$$ + E*G*O ) ) + ( FS = AWESOME + Infinity ). Therefor FS -> DDE![]()
Yyith wrote:Yyith says:
thats why women have small feet
get closer to the sink
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Mezzanine wrote:Picture a hot summers day, sitting on the grass ( maybe smoking it too lol ), sun shining, cool breeze, cold beer, beautiful lady, perfect Serenity
Now picture your worst nightmare, the grass turned into trenches of mud, rain drenching you, ice winds, down to rations, surrounded by death and destruction
Turning your dreams into nightmares is what we do, heed this warning and pass it on, else you will forget your serenity forever
Blood in 2012 - Updated 1st Sep, 2012:
Spoiler
Attack Soldiers killed: 32,934,122
Defence Soldiers killed: 17,810,494
Attack Supers killed: 777,708,800
Defence Supers killed: 1,004,092,379
Spy Killers killed: 301,726,911
Spies Killed: 1,223,520,310
Total: 3,357,793,016
Raiders lost: 5,324,560
Guards lost: 14,223,773
Super Soldiers lost: 907,918,161
Super Guards lost: 654,870,558
Undercover Agents lost: 411,831,764
Assassin lost: 269,766,078
Total: 2,263,934,894
Defence Soldiers killed: 17,810,494
Attack Supers killed: 777,708,800
Defence Supers killed: 1,004,092,379
Spy Killers killed: 301,726,911
Spies Killed: 1,223,520,310
Total: 3,357,793,016
Raiders lost: 5,324,560
Guards lost: 14,223,773
Super Soldiers lost: 907,918,161
Super Guards lost: 654,870,558
Undercover Agents lost: 411,831,764
Assassin lost: 269,766,078
Total: 2,263,934,894




