G&R points for not ascended accounts

[Radium]

Having taken the time to read every post on this subject, and not having ascended myself something appears quite obvious to me.

The people who want to use the GR points for something else are no different then if I bought offensive weapons and troops and then complained when they did not help my defense.

It can be said the game has evolved. That is true. But trying to get your accounts padded without having to pay the price just does not seem right to me. That is what this arguement always seems to come back to.

[Bahamut]

.......... But trying to get your accounts padded without having to pay the price just does not seem right to me. .........

read all in future please

50 bil should be good starting point for customized account tech upgrades, and those should raise for each tech upgrade by 10 -25 bil !

and that price was only as example not final

[Tyrant]

yeah i think this idea is great, because if players don't want to assend then the G&R point's just go to waste. this is a great idea Baha and i support it.

[Spoon]

Ive had an idea for something G&R could be used for if not for ascending, maybe you could use it to purchase name and race changes, that would be fair to all involved.

[Reaperman]

I think this is a great Idea. I had to stop playing quantum because I have not got enough time to play more than one of these games.

as much as I like the games I will never be able to play on other server.

[Wolf359]

I don't want to sound like a grumpy old mod, but if all you are going to say is 'I like this' or 'I don't like this', can you please not bother? There are plenty of those already.

What is needed now is a way to come to some sort of final compromise/idea that can be presented as a suggestion. So unless you actually have real arguments for or against, or an idea of how any of the proposals can be enhanced, please try and refrain from the 'I like/don't like it posts'.

Many thanks (in advance) for your co-operation!

[Bahamut]

Ive had an idea for something G&R could be used for if not for ascending, maybe you could use it to purchase name and race changes, that would be fair to all involved.

lol comeon spoon ability to buy change race and name change is this serious

oh and yes wolf i sgree with u more constructive posts would be of greater help instead using i like this or i don't like this etc

but as it seems the bigest problems is to agree is it right to demand this or not, as ascended players really took some time to do 2 or 3 ascensions and most of them payed hell of a price because they didn't had so much support.

so questions are

what should be fair price for unlocking tech or addon to weapon values or partial ascension (50, 75 or 100 bil) ?

should that be partial ascension or upgrading new technologies ( getting benefits of other non ascended races) ?

[Spoon]

Right, Im not going to post in this thread again until I have something particularly constructive or something has to be said as something seems unbalenced but first.

That post was serious bahamut about the name and race changes, they are only currently available through buying ss and it could be quite a usefull little addition, I wasnt suggesting it take the place of your ideas, just as something that could be added on for those people who never seem to be able to decide which race they want to be (see treebeards thread above). It wouldnt do any harm and would be something that would be helpfull to some people.

[Sleipnir]

I kinda like the idea of paying G&R for a race change. You could make it so you can have 1 stored at most. Everytime you change race, you need to make it back into the G&R range to be able to change again. This takes care of people changing to Goa'uld for PPT, then rep for the cheap spylevel, then whatever they were before, which is one of the main reasons race-change was limited.

[daivahataka]

Hmm... one thought I've had is:
If G&R is given a value further to ascention on main why should'nt the same be true in Quantum and Chaos, and if that is the case then will it not just be a case of the strong get stronger while everyone else just gets sore necks from looking up at what they have to catch up to? E.g. 1st person to 1000G&R on QW trades them for X, claims/strangthens placement as rank 1, gains G&R faster than others allowing them to buy another upgrade before anyone else, strangthening their position, etc...

Trading them in for name/race changes does sound reasonable since it would have little impact upon the game as long as some restrictions upon race changes remain.

[Bahamut]

maybe we could get something likr it is in Chaos wars to unlock

Attack Skill
Defence Skill
Covert Skill
Worker Training Capacity

it allready exist and i guess it wouldn't be hard to do that

so u get abillity to 5 % via upgrades heh ain't that good solution?

so G&R points unlock levels of upgrade u are allowed and increasments can go as "Worker Daily Training Rate" is calculated !!

ain't that good comprpomise

wolf comeon! your opinion please

[GAT-X207]

thats a horrible idea. do u really want to change the main server that much? we already got good upgrades recently. we already hav a daily training capacity, its called unit production, same goes for covert levels. and why bother with atk abd def capabilities, we have those already. so heres my idea for u bahmut, if u really want those 4 tech upgrades play chaos and forget about the main server.

[Bahamut]

thats a horrible idea. do u really want to change the main server that much? we already got good upgrades recently. we already hav a daily training capacity, its called unit production, same goes for covert levels. and why bother with atk abd def capabilities, we have those already. so heres my idea for u bahmut, if u really want those 4 tech upgrades play chaos and forget about the main server.

did u read topic from begining if not please do so!
thank u!

[Tenkari]

last i checked, GR was created ONLY for ascending, to have it being used for anything else would be unfair to those who want to ascend.

[GAT-X207]

i did, the half ascension sounds and the x% upgrades to the stats are fine. i personally dont plan to ascend, so i support that part. its just your suggestion of the tech ugrades in chaos being suggested. whats the point of putting those 4 tech upgrades into the main server if its similar enough?