FS vs TA

[Mathlord]

Your funny, so now your saying because we dont have money spenders that you since you spend money on the game and dont lie i know quite a bit of people who sell to you, we try to keep it clean and you still come back with childish BS.. Let me ask you this Why exactly did you lose the server war?? I can say it was definitely because of your mouth.. Seriously from all of FS (not FP or CS) But, on behalf of FS Go **Filtered** yourself... I was right after all, you targeted us more after FM MASSED your account practically to nothing, and you still say we approved it.. Field Marshall stated he was leaving to do some deeds and he didn't want to drag FS into any BS.. He dropped TAGS and massed you after that is when the logs were filled. Don't try to save face value we arnt, and as for you slander no-one care... As for now we are accomplishing one thing, and that is to make you look like more a jerk then you already to to most of the server.. The massing's will come soon my friend.. But, not by angry men with rage, but with the most organized **Filtered** you can thinking of. Put your diaper nack on this will be a long war...

Aww how adorable, Les is angry

I'm saying we both have dollar spenders...like every other alliance in this game...notice the "just like the rest of us"? Yeah I know reading is hard...

You know why we didn't win the server war? We didn't have the resources to do what was necessary to keep down our opponent while maintaining defenses of our own. Do you know what changed in wars that actually happened in the last three years? We started being able to do that on a larger and larger scale. Now here we sit all built up and you guys couldn't even mass one of our smallest defenses last night...I mean, you tried and in the ensuing countermass your noble leader once again sold off his strike and turtled his account hiding behind his phasing.

The funny thing is you think we stopped targeting you while FM and I were tangoing. I personally was busy fighting a skilled opponent who could actually mass things, and he did zero me quite a few times I might add (it's not that hard if you know what you're doing), but we were still farming and farming. We warned your leadership quite a few times that if you think massing over farming is okay well then you better get ready for a taste of your own medicine. You didn't listen. You kept farming. Surprise Surprise, you done got massed.

This didn't need to be a war. Hell, this isn't a war. This is swatting a fly and a waste of our time which could be used for more entertaining things...like basket weaving...or learning what bocce ball really is. I think it involves kicking?

You want a world where you can farm whoever you please with no consequences. You also want a world where your members are allowed to mass whoever they feel like over farming them profitably without trying to make amends with an alliance you had previously deemed "friendly". When I walk into a negotiation and a member of my alliance does something unsanctioned, I'll reimburse the other alliance out of my own pocket if my alliance member won't...there will also be a conversation with my alliance member, but that's neither here nor there. A good alliance leadership takes responsibility for the actions of their members and understands there are consequences when you piss off another alliance who quite frankly could wipe the floor with you.

And now...a poem...

So here you sit broken hearted. You tried to fight, but have fallen to depths uncharted.

Tauri Alliance Mathlord Disciples of Aker (Alertness) 2,900,220,194 3 3,482,805,522,177,712 34 (36,001)

Forgotten Serenity™ Drahazar Disciples of Khunsu (Light) 97,358,719 78 19,795,086,997,226 11 (1)

Your fate is sealed Forgotten Serenity. You want to farm us, expect to remain sat upon. You want a nice friendly solution where you don't get hit by us and we don't get hit by you? Then we can talk and live happily ever after in the land of stargatewars. You don't like these terms? They go against everything you believe in? Well maybe it's time you realized you have a stupid set of beliefs.

[thorsworld1]

Well if FS want out then simply say so, just say to us WAR OVER

Return to normal play and accept 1 farm hit equal your def gone, no farm hit you keep your stats

let that be the end of it issue

(this does not come with HC authorisation, just me thinking of a way out for FS)

[xDaku]

Alright, your fairy tales are boring as hell Math.

Let's get facts straight. FM massed a member of yours for farming. Do I agree with that? No. Was it sanctioned by FS? Hell no. But it happened.

You know what happened after? Probably not because you turned a blind eye, FM declared a vendetta and - here's the important part - your member accepted! I know right, a TAF member actually fighting for himself for once? You don't believe in your members math, but it's alright, it happened. Your member massed FM back.

After all this, I posted telling you to let it go and let the two fight it out. You know why? **Filtered** happened, wasn't cool, but the two dealt with it between themselves. You don't need to involve your big ass head into every little issue when your own members are more than capable of dealing with it themselves.

You came on shouting about wanting it all repaid. Well tough luck, because guess what jack, massings had been done both ways. But, you kept pressing the issue, we talked to FM, he decided it was better to leave and he did. We didn't come on in public, or ANYWHERE, insulting or reprimanding our member because that's not how FS works. Fact is, we deal with things internally, it's all hush hush, you can ask any person who's been in FS and they'll tell you that.

FM left, you two had your fight, and as you claim you two came to an understanding. Fine. Yet, the aggressive farming continued, from both sides. You decided to sanction a 1 hit mass policy on FS and within the span of 24 hours had 3 members massed...for being in your logs. Guess what? Our problem, the issue with taf, that was gone. That member left. You held on to your little grudge and decided to stay aggressive. Fine. You chose that, and here we are.

You wanna talk about hypocritical? You might call our beliefs stupid, but atleast we fight for our beliefs. You fight to try to force your way of play on others, we fight to defend ours. None of us agree with the massing of Cali, but you said yourself, that issue was dealt with and gone. Your answer to mass 3 FS members, that was either a grudge, or your ego finally getting the better of you.

Mouthlord, so true.


Edit: Oh, and you can go on about how FS and TAF have been having issues for months, but this issue was with a completely new member with a hammer he was itching to use past what we like. It wasn't the continuation of an ongoing issue. All the members from the older issues have been very nice towards you guys, and in some cases likewise. It's not a continuity issue, though you'd hope it is.

[Mathlord]

Oh we did have issues for months. Just because we didn't have massings ongoing for months doesn't mean people weren't doing things they shouldn't.

Yes Cali asked to keep it to just him and he and FM fought eachother. Then FM left and he and I fought for a week. Our issues with FM were resolved at that point. You are still missing the concept of why we have a problem with your leadership.

Yes we demanded repayment of Cali who was massed over the smallest of thing. FM didn't want to, but your leadership could have. This was before any return massing, this was before anything. Besides, if you recall, FM didn't exactly have the equivalent in massable army to the 200 tril worth of stuff Cali had lost. That was a solution that only benefited you guys but we did it because that was what Cali wanted. That in no way solves our issue with your leadership.

Now I'm not about to bring up the old history again in this thread like I did pages and pages ago. Suffice to say this is how things go with TA, FS relations. Farming happens, people get upset, sometimes threats occur, sometimes massing occurs. We come to some sort of farming agreement with no massing. It gets violated first day, farming agreement goes away and we go back to stalemate. I realize this is how you treat diplomacy with every alliance, but it's a stupid way to go about it and it is not stable in the slightest. It might work with people that have better things to do than waste time massing a bunch of noobs with no stats, but for those that don't? Well, sucks to be you.

You act like farming everyone is some kind of gospel by which you all live by and any affront to that destroys your way of life. You get upset when people show up in your logs too much. You get upset when you get massed for showing up in our logs too much. You get upset when we have problems with you massing us for showing up in your logs at all. You want the best of both worlds and I hate to break it to you, you just aren't that good of a group of players to dictate policy on the rest of the server.

Maybe if you all had huge accounts funneling tons of naq and uu into them, then you could dictate policy. As it stands, you are playing dead and bragging about it. Which is fine, we can play along. We can be the bully to your noble freedom fighter fighting for the right to show up in our attack logs. Funny, it is so rare to see a NO ATTACK POLICY, where both sides actively prevent problems from starting, to be the source of so much outrage.

Who else but the Tauri Alliance would dare bully an enemy into signing an agreement that involves neither side hitting the other. We truly are evil incarnate.

[VAGAB0ND]

only defense in your alliance is gone

[curtthehurt1]

you've played the farming card for long enough. I seem to recall being massed back in May by a TAAE member, incidentally it was for farming (1 hit) a 0 defense for 220 BILLION. I was massed by a log watcher who saw the hit and retalliated instantly. The reasoning for the mass on me was that had been massed. which looking into the situation, it turned out that he had been massed over 26 hours earlier. 26 HOURS was apparently not enough time to rebuild a defense. I'd put money on the fact that the only reason it mattered then was because I was an LG with an army size of less than 200M, and 31 covert. if i would have been a big unknown account, i probably would have been messaged, if even that. the only reason I was touched is because i couldn't do a damned thing to defend, by the time I noticed, as I was still farming, I PPT'd and it took almost 15T to get back to where I was for stats, which may not be a lot to you, but to someone with 4 months ingame it was plenty to knock back my efforts for a couple of days considering the fact that my bank maximum was only 12T. because you COULD do damage, you DID do damage. no other reason. you use your big accounts to push your way around, and as a result, its been a "my way or the highway" proposition when dealing with you.

[Mathlord]

Yes curt...you only ever hit one TAF person ever. You were massed over one solitary attack...

If you want to bring up May, we can bring up insane levels of farming we saw in our logs, a whole host of other debates and negotiations that drove us insane, the massing of a TA member back then too and a very shaky truce that was kept between brother and myself because we got along rather well and could solve these issues peacefully.

Alas those times are over. You are not the alliance you once were and we aren't as interested in dealing with this nonsense as we used to be. Our patience wore out, your antics got tired and we stopped trying to be friends.

[BMMJ13]

Found a couple ironic posts by FS from the recent past:

You mean you sold your weapons when I told you that you keep up your ways and we'll start playing it like a "war game" too.

Now that you've declared, build a def.

Are you serious?

The attack was totally warranted for your relentless farming despite being warned against it.

Terms?

And as xDaku said, build a defence.

xDaku
you had no right interfering anyway he ran to you for protection. btw nice sneaking a hit in

He didn't run to me, I was told about the hits from a third member and decided to warn you. Makes sense considering, you know, he's part of our ingame family.

And I didn't "sneak a hit in". Went a tab too far and pressed attack instead of spy. Build a def and properly fight this out, or this vendetta is void and you're a free practice target for FP. Like you said, it's a war game

You have 24 hours. You declared, now back it up.

When it's someone weaker than you, you are a family and fight all for 1, yet when someone does something against the FS ideal, you could care less because it was their own choice. You threaten others and likely mass for farming, yet get mad when you get massed for making bad hits, not even just farming just plain bad hits. You tell others to build a defense because they declared the war. That one is my favorite.

Hell, by your own logic, we can just declare this war void and sit on FSF and be alright by FS's moral guidelines.

[STRIKER666]

Aww how adorable, Les is angry

I'm saying we both have dollar spenders...like every other alliance in this game...notice the "just like the rest of us"? Yeah I know reading is hard...

hahahahahahahahhahahahhahahaha...... AWESOME

+1 MAth

[curtthehurt1]

Yes curt...you only ever hit one TAF person ever. You were massed over one solitary attack...

If you want to bring up May, we can bring up insane levels of farming we saw in our logs, a whole host of other debates and negotiations that drove us insane, the massing of a TA member back then too and a very shaky truce that was kept between brother and myself because we got along rather well and could solve these issues peacefully.

Alas those times are over. You are not the alliance you once were and we aren't as interested in dealing with this nonsense as we used to be. Our patience wore out, your antics got tired and we stopped trying to be friends.

I was massed over one solitary attack. it was expressly noted so in the PM's i exchanged with the player who massed me.

[Mathlord]

Sure it was cupcake

Will someone please build something?

[Drahazar]

I dropped ppt with something, and you failed to destroy it, after you showed yourself incapable of taking it, it stood for quite some time, finally it was destroyed, although one of the people that got it forgot to untrain a load of normal standard attack troops, so he lost 7.5mill of them on a less than 1T defense, to Math's credit, he did Sab it down from 4 to 0 once for a total loss of 17,480,000 spies but i bought more weps quick enough, i thought it worth it seeing as how he had sabbed 6T worth of weps and killed around 6Mill Supers.

ME

Total Kills: 185,445,516

Total Losses: 176,236,984

[Mathlord]

Actually I sabbed out your defense once. You rebuilt and hid behind covert and attack phasing so you couldn't lose your defense. You untrained most of your spies, though you did leave some there to kill, which were then killed AND you sold off your strike instead of actually losing it so you were left with a pretty dead account. So sorry I didn't stay on all night pounding away four times per 30 minutes at that 500 bil defense...and yet it was massed anyway later. Oh forgot to mention that mothership of yours, which is a couple tril bigger than mine, you lost...while on nox...

You really don't understand how insignificant you are yet...oh well, I hope you prove me wrong In the meantime, we shall enjoy making this very very expensive for you...and since we're showing ME:

Attack Super Soldiers Killed(300) 57,678,039
Defence Super Soldiers Killed(100) 125,222,888
Spies Killed(50) 123,879,988
Spy Killers Killed(50) 2,664

Super Soldier Lost 61,637,888
Super Guards Lost 29,511,049
Covert Ops Lost 0
CounterIntelligence Agents Lost 10,448,469

That's 306:101...I hope you give me something else to kill this easily...

[sarparto]

I dropped ppt with something, and you failed to destroy it, after you showed yourself incapable of taking it, it stood for quite some time, finally it was destroyed, although one of the people that got it forgot to untrain a load of normal standard attack troops, so he lost 7.5mill of them on a less than 1T defense, to Math's credit, he did Sab it down from 4 to 0 once for a total loss of 17,480,000 spies but i bought more weps quick enough, i thought it worth it seeing as how he had sabbed 6T worth of weps and killed around 6Mill Supers.

ME

Total Kills: 185,445,516

Total Losses: 176,236,984

What, 15 hours? How many times has Math been 0'd in the 11 days of this war? I know, I know, you're getting to it...eventually.

[Drahazar]

Yeah i decided to let nox take over, which is nothing you can complain about, i mean you picked your house purely so you could do the same lol